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    coffee mathines with sunbeam em480?

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    hi all,

    first post heh ::)

    enjoy a great coffee but my budget is tight. bought a sunbeam em0480 grinder earlier in the year to use with plungers and such (after much deliberation). was wondering what would be a good pairing for this grinder? ie. coffee machine? also how does coffee out of the presso compares with plunger coffee? am quite intrigued by it...

    couldnt find whether this has been addressed in previous posts...

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    Re: coffee machines with sunbeam em480?

    Gday Dailybean and welcome to the forum.
    When you say a tight budget, how tight are you talking about?
    Do you home roast?
    If not, this would be the next logical step for use with your plungers. You can start off with a small investment of around $20-30 for a popcorn popper, some green beans from this site, and bobs your uncle. Great tasting, fresh (in every sense of the word) coffee :)
    I dont have any experience with the Presso, however quite a few CSs do and report good results. Do a search of this site for presso and you should come up trumps.
    All the best.

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    Re: coffee mathines with sunbeam em480?

    tight budget? heh. being a uni student, sadly i dont have the budget for a silvia.

    no, actually i dont home roast. never knew where to start and how to get green beans.

    whoa. popcorn poppers? i know what ill be looking for next! :)

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    Re: coffee mathines with sunbeam em480?

    Hi there,

    There are some silvias going for about $500 second hand on the buy/sell forum at the moment. Thats an exceptionally good deal. You will hear on these forums that the silvia requires a grinder with very fine adjustment, so your grinder might not be up to snuff for it. Whilst thats probably true, I would think that that would apply to most espresso machines, seeing as most of them use the exact same pumps from the same company! It might just be that silvia owners are anal enough to notice it. Paradoxically, it seems to me that the more expensive prosumer class of machines will handle a cheaper grinder much better.

    The presso seems to make coffee that tastes kinda half-way between FP and espresso coffee, but I think that it is necessary to preheat everything or it will taste sour with some beans. The presso doesnt do milk ...

    Personally, Im not really impressed by any of the cheap machines, so if I were you, Id proably save my pennies and stick with french press or vac pot. Then again, I might just have unrealstic expectations from using too many commercial machines! You might also want to try cold process just for fun, seeing as it will cost you nothing to do it and it gives you a concentrate that cuts through milk much more effectively than FP coffee ... although it is a bit bland and inoffensive.

    If you do want something cheap and good, Id keep my eyes on evilbay and the buy/sell forum here ... but beware that buying from anyone other than an actual store might leave you high and dry if anything goes wrong!

    Hope that helps,

    Luca

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    Re: coffee mathines with sunbeam em480?

    Quote Originally Posted by luca link=1162269336/0#3 date=1162278573
    It might just be that silvia owners are anal enough to notice it. *

    Not having a good day, Luca? No need to take it out on us Silvia owners... :P

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    Re: coffee mathines with sunbeam em480?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viviane link=1162269336/0#4 date=1162278964
    Quote Originally Posted by luca link=1162269336/0#3 date=1162278573
    It might just be that silvia owners are anal enough to notice it.

    Not having a good day, Luca? No need to take it out on us Silvia owners... :P
    Hehehe .. not meant in that way at all. Im just saying that these forums are full of silvia owners who will roast their own beans, time every shot, pid their machines and temperature surf. The internet is full of sites on how to modify your machine and how to get the best out of it. Whilst there are certainly many fanatical gaggia and sunbeam owners out there, I think that its not a stretch to say that from the available internet literature, silvia owners put a lot of effort into their espresso, and I just didnt want all of that to be misconstrued as the machine somehow being more finnicky than others.

    Perhaps "detail-minded" would have been a better choice of words ;P

    Cheers,

    Luca

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    Re: coffee mathines with sunbeam em480?

    For the record:

    yes the pumps are virtually all the same which is why the "does your machine have a 15 - 16 - 18 - 19 bar pump???" question is totally irrelevant & riles me up so much............

    However - the pump is only one component in the system and diff manufacturers design & build in different ways....so

    Trust me, silvia takes a finer grind than most, for any given coffee.

    When we are demonstrating a silvia, we always have to reset the commercial grinder (which is sitting next to the commercial training machine in the showroom) to a finer grind from that which it is set to grind at for the commercial machine it is next and matched to.......

    This has nothing to do with the consistency of particle size....we only use the best commercial grinders, silvia on average, just seems to need / like a finer grind....

    I dont consider this to mean that the machine is finicky, because you need to find the correct grind for a machine no matter what the brand / model, and all good grinders are adjustable to that level of "fineness".

    Regardz,
    FC. *


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    Re: coffee mathines with sunbeam em480?

    Quote Originally Posted by dailybean link=1162269336/0#2 date=1162276292
    tight budget? heh. being a uni student, sadly i dont have the budget for a silvia.
    Another option for a tight budget would be an AeroPress. Or CP. :) :)


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    Re: coffee mathines with sunbeam em480?

    thanks for your comments luca. yeah i saw that post on the there. still a bit steep for me at the present time. but youve sure persuaded me toward getting a silvia. looks like ill be scrounging every penny from now on towards it. till then, ill just be content with my humble plunger.

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    Re: coffee mathines with sunbeam em480?

    dailybean, wasnt necessarily trying to push you towards the silvia, just saying that I thought that the second hand ones were probably the best value machines around in the price range. Truth be told, I think that the (significantly more expensive) prosumer machines make much better espresso much more easily than the silvia - hence my selling mine to buy one - but the silvia is mechanically quite simple and with some TLC and maybe the odd parts replacement it should be making espresso for your grandkids.

    FC, glad to see that were in agreement. (I was talking about fine adjustment ie. size of steps, not absolute particle size) I appreciate that theres a lot more to an espresso machine than its pump, but pointing out that they all have the same pump seemed to be an easy way to back up the statement that the whole dialing in process for any machine and grinder combo is going to be the same. I, too, have had the silvia side-by-side with commercial machines and have also noticed that it tends to take a relatively fine grind.

    Cheers,

    Luca



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