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    Compak K10 WBC mod

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Just received my K10 WBC from Talkcoffee (thanks Chris) and its awesome. Well, havent turned it on yet, but it looks awesome.

    This is the updated version which comes with the metal fork and the doser cover is different as well.

    Anyway, being the WBC version, it doesnt have the auto cutoff but I realised that the pastic bit for the auto cutoff is still there. So a few screws later, I took it off and I now have full access to the doser to make sure that I can clean it out as good as I can. It also gives me access to the infamous "keeps stale grind in there" chute so I can clean that out at the end of the day as well.

    Heres a picture of it with the plastic bit still attached


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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    And without


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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    My K10 used to look like that stock when it came from Diamond C....but I actually prefer the look of it with the auto cut of hood on.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    But doesnt it just get in the way? I prefer the clean look and I find it more practical without it.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    The grinder looks very unfinished when you take it off....anyway...well see when I get my new one.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Looks OK to me E-Gene.....

    I guess if you dont love the way it looks one could always leave the Doser Lid on until its time for a clean and scrub? :-?

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    + 1 vote for off.

    Any chance you could take and post some general pictures of the grinder? I havent seen the new configuration in person yet.

    I always find user photos more realistic than publicity shots from companies.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    I just received my new grinder today. Found it sitting in the tech dept room at work. New features of the K10 WBC:

    • New doser lid and plastic collar with bean scale...heaps more aesthetically pleasing
    • Free floating burr carrier (not sure how this is achieved...have not looked yet). The old carrier used a locking pin to hold the grind setting.
    • Replaced plastic dosing fork with metal dosing fork (THE BEST MODIFICATION EVER!)
    • Rotary switch....so so...I liked the old switch...trying to become too much like a Mazzer.
    • New hopper design (internal china mans hat is smaller)...smart....I always had a few beans stuck on top of this part when I run the hopper out of coffee
    • New WBC logo design on back of grinder. In Blue and Yellow. I preferred the old white monochrome logo.
    • New hopper locking pin design. I dont get this one at all...hard to explain but the old one was a one piece construction. The new one is a 2 piece construction. You have to unscrew the locking pin, which in fact is not the locking pin but an shield (if you can call it that) to access an inner screw which then will turn the locking pin....WTF? So you need a screwdriver to use the locking pin? Stupid and pointless, I never locked my hopper in anyway.
    • Spare bean scale collar....not sure why??


    All in all...excellent modifications and additions by Compak from the previous generation.

    What I find really interesting though, is that, the grinders won by each state barista champion, although look exactly the same as mine, do not have the new free floating burr carrier (i.e. require the burr carrier to be locked with a pin) and no not have the new stupid locking pin for the hopper.

    What gives? Theyre the same generation are they not....

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Hi David, can you post some pictures at some stage?

    Cheers CB

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    As requested


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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Doser


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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    The new logo


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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Further detail http://www.compak.es/en/productos/020103.htm

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    I too am wondering what the spare bean scale collar is for?

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    well id assume in case of breakage. Its all about the little things ;)

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Cheers E-Gene, very cool !

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Now THAT is a grinder...... 8-)

    Excellent E-Gene [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Hey E-Gene...is this grinder for Guava Bean or is it for you @ home for your Sunbeam?? :O

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    the Sunbeam would never have produced such good coffee if it is for home - nice grinder mate.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes - David S link=1216303106/0#17 date=1216648791
    Hey E-Gene...is this grinder for Guava Bean or is it for you @ home for your Sunbeam?? :O
    Itll be a bit of a luxury for home. It is at my place for now but no its meant for Guava Bean. Was in 1st Pour today and I saw your spare bean scale collar on the window sill in the training room.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Thats actually David Makins. Mine is at home still in the box. Im yet to wear the burrs in and make coffee off it!!

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Some pix....

    I greatly regretted the sale of my old K10....Am very happy to have one back. I popped a K3 hopper on mine, so its not too much taller than my M4D :)

    FYI all, the K10 Diamond (conic) has identical specifications. It adds an auto-cutout (which can be removed) and has the old style full doser shroud/cover and is in platinum. The WBC dosing chamber is retained but you get no WBC sticker on the back. Accepting those differences saves you $100 ;)

    Note differences in dosing chamber cover. NB- Aussie spec. is WBC dosing chamber on both grinders- no tamper ;)

    Auto stop on K10 Diamond





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    Haha, Im sure that the WBC sticker is worth the extra $100! I know, when I asked myself why Im getting the WBC version...I told myself, Im not paying for it (company is), so why not. Hehe.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Switching to a rotary power switch is a bad move, one of the better advantages it had over the robur.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Quote Originally Posted by AndreasM link=1216303106/20#23 date=1216729691
    Switching to a rotary power switch is a bad move, one of the better advantages it had over the robur.
    Why did you prefer the old switch? I had that on my K6 and cant say that I prefer it over the rotary.

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    yeah, i much prefer the feel of the rotary switch. *At one of my previous comps the switch on the k10 ( the old switch) somehow broke in the car ride from home to the competition. *Plus ive heard of many that had problems with some of the flimsy electronics on the k10. *IMO The new switch is *a lot more robust.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Quote Originally Posted by E-Gene link=1216303106/20#24 date=1216732048
    Why did you prefer the old switch? I had that on my K6 and cant say that I prefer it over the rotary.
    Yes the old switch might not feel the most robust but im just thinking of work-flow in a busy environment where flicking a switch is much easier than turning one.

    Doesnt matter now anyway, weve outgrown the K10s, must be about time for 3 phase...

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Good luck getting one of those.

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    I had a laugh as if the robur doesnt keep up andreas. 3 phase robur aint gonna do shit...just get another robur....heaps cheaper....and if it doesnt keep up...just fill up the chamber ;)

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    sweeeet...

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Hello im new to coffeesnobs - a quick question about Compak K10 grinders.. the original ones.. is it common to find that the grind adjustment knob on the collar threads itself after a few months of use?

    I am from a Gloria Jeans store - almost all of the newer stores now how the K10s and quite a few stores have reported the same problem. Im trying to find out if its something were doing not quite right?

    I heard that Compak are revising the design - just interested in some feedback! :-)

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    What do you mean on the collar threads? As in on the burr carrier thread itself?? Please make it clearer as I do not understand what youre trying to ask...unless Im stupid (my brain is fried after a lot of engineering classes today)

    Older K10s have a locking pin for the grind adjustment mechanism. The new ones work like mazzers. Just set the grind and thats it...no locking pin.

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    Na i think he/she meant the vertical pin that locks the collar.

    Mine comes off only if I dont screw it on tight.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Oh...never had a problem with them...ever.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Unecessary overuse of the locking pin together with the coffee grinds entering the thread will of course cause threading.

    Threading on micrometrical grinders such as Mazzer and Compak is commonly caused by coffee grinds entering the thread and constantly working the coffee grinds through the thread by constant adjustment - causing eventual jamming and threading by compacted coffee grinds.

    I am referring to the burr carrier thread - however the locking pin on the K10 will also suffer from this problem - however I have found you dont really need to use the locking pin on any Compak, it will stay in adjustment without the locking pin. ;)

    But of course some people cant help but to fiddle - especially when they think they are baristas. *;D


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    Sorry for my loser lingo... SHE is talking about the locking pin for the grind adjustment mechanism...

    Im Shelley - i love to make coffee for Gloria Jeans at the moment and look after a young store in Boronia -

    I like to teach my baristas to set the grind for themselves so they can make excellent coffees each time. They take me up - they are very young, and wonderfully enthusiastic... what ive found is that the Glorias stores which have a strong culture for great coffee (many dont) are finding this problem occuring with their K10s.

    our equipment man cant figure it - i was hoping to get another opinion is all.


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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Shelleysomething link=1216303106/20#30 date=1217322571
    Hello im new to coffeesnobs - a quick question about Compak K10 grinders.. the original ones.. is it common to find that the grind adjustment knob on the collar threads itself after a few months of use?

    I am from a Gloria Jeans store - almost all of the newer stores now how the K10s and quite a few stores have reported the same problem. Im trying to find out if its something were doing not quite right?

    I heard that Compak are revising the design - just interested in some feedback! :-)
    I guess the locking screw is failing? Sounds like its being overtightened. Best bet is to refer it back to the supplier IMHO. That said, my previous K10 had one and I didnt feel it was required. Seems Compak agreed as its been deleted from the new WBC.

    Chris

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    Its never been needed - but its been there to satisfy those who think that the slight collar movement effects the grind adjustment. Chris is right on the money its not needed.

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Metreo link=1216303106/20#34 date=1217341666
    Unecessary overuse of the locking pin together with the coffee grinds entering the thread will of course cause threading.

    Threading on micrometrical grinders such as Mazzer and Compak is commonly caused by coffee grinds entering the thread and constantly working the coffee grinds through the thread by constant adjustment - causing eventual jamming and threading by compacted coffee grinds.

    I am referring to the burr carrier thread - however the locking pin on the K10 will also suffer from this problem - however I have found you dont really need to use the locking pin on any Compak, it will stay in adjustment without the locking pin. ;)

    But of course some people cant help but to fiddle - especially when they think they are baristas. ;D
    Hey! Im a barista and I like to fiddle with things! Got a problem? :-?

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    Im a barista too and I love to fiddle, er...but I think its cos I just love to fiddle.

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    Thanks - appreciate it everyone.

    So theres no pin on the newer model at all?! Nice...

    Must be something were doing then... Im guessing itd be cleaning the blades.. theres no literature in our system indicating procedure for the task - probably at most stores it just isnt done... thats when grind would get in and damage things I suppose?

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    Re: Compak K10 WBC mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes - David S link=1216303106/20#38 date=1217430530
    Quote Originally Posted by Metreo link=1216303106/20#34 date=1217341666
    Unecessary overuse of the locking pin together with the coffee grinds entering the thread will of course cause threading.

    Threading on micrometrical grinders such as Mazzer and Compak is commonly caused by coffee grinds entering the thread and constantly working the coffee grinds through the thread by constant adjustment - causing eventual jamming and threading by compacted coffee grinds.

    I am referring to the burr carrier thread - however the locking pin on the K10 will also suffer from this problem - however I have found you dont really need to use the locking pin on any Compak, it will stay in adjustment without the locking pin. *;)

    But of course some people cant help but to fiddle - especially when they think they are baristas. *;D
    Hey! Im a barista and I like to fiddle with things! Got a problem? *:-?

    If your not a barista be offended. ;)



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