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    sunbeam emo450 and em0480

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    Hello to all.
    I am looking at buying a grinder and the sunbeam gets a good mention .
    However what is the main difference between the em 0450 and em0480, as there doesnt seem to be much difference except the price when I looked on the sunbeam web site.
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    Re: sunbeam emo450 and em0480

    Welcome to Coffee Snobs.

    The 0480 had a metal body and a 3 position power switch; On/Off/Auto

    The Auto position works with a switch on the front of the body under the coffee exit spout that is activated when you push the portafilter handle against it.

    It may also have a slightly better warranty. Not 100% sure on that.

    In my opinion either of those two are the absolute minimum grinder you would buy.
    I have the 0450 and replaced it pretty quickly with a Gaggia MDF.
    The Sunbeams are noisy and messy and prone to grind consistancy problems.
    They also retain a lot of grounds in the grinding chamber which will go stale and affect the next coffee if you arent very particular with your cleaning.

    Providing you buy one with your eyes open theyre OK.
    If you buy the next best grinder it will be cleaner, quieter, probably last longer and save you $150-200 you wont have spent on the Sunbeam.

    What machine will you be pairing it with?


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    Re: sunbeam emo450 and em0480

    Hello and thanks for the replys.

    "If you buy the next best grinder it will be cleaner, quieter, probably last longer and save you"

    What would you consider the next best grinder?
    though I think that the sunbeam will be suitable for me and my price range.

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    Re: sunbeam emo450 and em0480

    Next up the ladder would probably be something like the Gaggia MDF that Thundergod mentioned, or an Iberital Challenge or maybe something like the Ascaso i-Mini. Not sure about pricing on the Gaggia, but the other two will be around (or a bit more than) $300.

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    The Sunbeams are the bare minimum Id recommend but only if you are aware of their position on the ladder of acceptable grinders - the bottom.

    Im not sure if youll esily find a Gaggia.
    The other two jakes mentioned should be easy to buy. The site sponsors have them.

    I believe in avoiding upgraditis for as long as possible.

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    Re: sunbeam emo450 and em0480

    I probably should have posted the following in my original post, but I would take good notice of what TG has to say.
    I have had a Sunbeam EM0480 for almost two years and have been convinced that it needs to be upgraded for at least half of that time, if not longer. It seemed like a really good idea at the time due to the relatively low price for a espresso-quality burr grinder, but its limitations become apparent quite quickly (among other things its very messy, prone to clumping, and most annoyingly - the steps are huge so its very difficult to adjust it perfectly to deal with small changes in beans or weather conditions).
    The problem I now have is that Ill have to spend money again (okay, not really as it was a present from my family, but it is still lost money) to replace it. Probably more problematically, my partner is completely against an upgrade as (in her opinion) we already have a grinder that works fine.
    So, Ill basically reiterate the advice thats constantly given here - buy the best grinder that you possibly can. If theres any possibility, Id suggest you might even look beyond the Challenge/i-Mini level to something like the Rancillio Rocky - granted its about 3 times the price of an EM0450, but you shouldnt (unless the coffee bug bites you hard) end up in a situation where you want to replace it after 6 or 12 months.
    Oh yeah, Im using my Sunbeam with a Silvia - I can get good shots with this, but as I said above, the grinder is just too frustrating and variable in its grind-quality for me to want to hold onto it long-term.

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    Re: sunbeam emo450 and em0480

    Hi Stan, I started out with an EM450 and it did a good job but when I got Silvia she demanded better so I got Rocky which does a great job, but now Im pondering in the back of my mind to get a Mazzer Mini (upgraditis biting again!!!).
    As stated by all CSers above get the best possible grinder you can afford.

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    Re: sunbeam emo450 and em0480

    Hi Stan,
    When i first became a regular coffee drinker, i bought an em 0480 grinder with my breville machine and was quite happy with the results. Once i realised i was going to drink decent coffee forever upgraditis set in and i went for a Macap M4 with my new machine. One thing i have found is just how much improved the consistancy of the grind is. When the grind is dialled in, it actually stays where it is set, not moving at all even when the grinder is moved to clean the bench. When the humidity is up (not often in Perth thankfully), i turn the dial 1 rev coarser and reverse this when the humidity drops again, and the setting is back where it should be. The Sunbeam was hit and miss when trying to do this and by the end of my time with the sunbeam (18 months) the setting was just parked on 1 and i still wasnt getting the grind as fine as i wanted. I know these higher-end grinders seem expensive, but when you look in the long term they will outlast any of the cheap, disposable appliances produced nowdays many times over. All I will be up for is a set of burrs in about 10 years (given my current usage), and i will be good to go for another 10 years. I wonder how many years a lightweight grinder like the sunbeam will last? Over the last few years i have changed the way i choose consumer products to buying only quality goods that will last the test of time and do the job as well as possible. I may have to save a little longer, but the payoff is worth it. Anyway, these are just my thoughts and each to thier own i guess.
    Cheers,
    James.

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    Re: sunbeam emo450 and em0480

    thanks for the replies.
    I think i will have to stick with the sunbeam for budget reasons.
    No doubt, if the coffee drinking habit continues, i will upgrade in the future .
    Such is life.

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    Re: sunbeam emo450 and em0480

    If youre going to buy one, buy a cheap one - like the one Im selling here: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1228856566
    (Nothing like gratuitous self-promotion!!).

    Good luck

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    Re: sunbeam emo450 and em0480

    Quote Originally Posted by flatwhite link=1228731075/0#9 date=1228899901
    If youre going to buy one, buy a cheap one - like the one Im selling *here: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1228856566
    (Nothing like gratuitous self-promotion!!).

    Good luck
    Gratuitous? That looked to be about $130 worth (+postage) of self-promotion there flatwhie :)



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