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    Grinders?

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    Hi everyone!
    I am looking at coffee grinders and want to hear everyones opinion on them- Are they worth buying? and which one is best? Make about five coffes a day, more when entertainin. :-*

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    Aroma,
    you fill find a rapidly growing store of information here: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1163235531....It also pays to use the search button when seeking information and also to be specific as to intended use and budget when requesting information. ::)

    For example you might find that the recommendations provided to you if you specify a $50 budget versus a $2k budget might be ever so slightly different.

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    Yes, they are definitely worth buying. *Ground coffee goes stale VERY quickly when exposed to air / moisture etc.

    How do you make your coffee? Do you use an espresso machine? *What is your budget for a grinder? *This should help us narrow the field down a bit for you *:)

    If you can, youd be best off getting a stepless grinder. *Someone else will probably be able to point you to the exact location of a thread where all different grinders are discussed, but it would be well worth your time to browse through the grinders section and see what other people have already said.


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    MMM I love that Honey Afogato recipe!! Was watching the Coffee Crazy DVD last night!!
    Will try searching previous recommendations, Thanks..
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    Re: Grinders?

    Quote Originally Posted by aroma77 link=1163724277/0#0 date=1163724277
    Hi everyone!
    I am looking at coffee grinders and want to hear everyones opinion on them- Are they worth buying?
    Yup, a grinder is definately worth buying. They work much better than smashing your beans between a couple of rocks! ::) :D ;D


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    Three words, MAZZER, MAZZER, MAZZER.
    Pricey, but worth it.

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    Re: Grinders?

    With respect, mazzer is a commercial grinder. If you look at a commercial grinder then there are a multitude of commercial grinders all of which will do the job very well indeed particularly if it is "only" a domestic situation.

    In which case we could also say:

    Macap Macap Macap,
    Gino Rossi, Gino Rossi, Gino Rossi,
    Compak Compak Compak;
    La Cimbali La Cimbali La Cimbali
    Rancilio Rancilio Rancilio,
    etc etc etc

    All, excellent commercial grinders.


    Brand / models aside, you need to decide on your budget & go from there and yes, a grinder is necessary if you aspire to produce the best possible result no matter what kind of coffee brewing method you employ.

    Regardz.
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    You havent shared your budget and usage yet? That way I am sure you will get many controversial replies to your topic. A sub-$200 budget and a >$1000 will be two totally different categories altogether. And if you use it purely for espresso or espresso and plunger may also provide you with different suggestions. For exampled my Iberital Challenge suits my purposes of just espresso nicely and is around 300 dollars but I wouldnt recommend it to a person who has more than one grind style in mind as it is just too fiddly for that. But you are better of spending the most you can for sure. if I had of had more money I would of looked at other options but bang for buck the Iberital suited my needs. Check out the grinder thread that 2mcm suggested though and you will find reviews on various grinders. You would probably find the cheapest that anyone would suggest would be the Sunbeam for $150 plus but you would also find many critics of this grinder as well. It is one of those questions that is "how long is a piece of string" really when you dont put specific needs in place. You will get great advice though when you are specific though. If you have a budget in mind you could even give your closest site sponsor a call and I am sure they will help you out with options and will look after you in the process, and most importantly after sales service.

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    Hello,

    I am a newbie (only own a Capresso drip coffee machine) and am thinking of putting a toe in the water and asking for a grinder for Christmas. I thought that I would get the most bang for my buck with a grinder rather than an espresso machine (thatll come later).

    So here are my questions:

    1) Between a Capresso Infinity Burr grinder (the one with the zinc die cast housing, not the plastic one) and the Solis Maestro grinder, what do people prefer? Are there any concerns about the quality of the Capresso grinder. I realize that these are entry-level grinders, but I have read some mixed reviews about the Capresso grinder. This one is designed in Switzerland, but I am not sure where the components are manufactured.

    2) What is the difference in features and quality between the Solis Maestro and Solis Maestro Plus? Is it worth stepping up to the Plus for the additional money?

    3) In that same price range, are there other grinders that people would recommend (please let me know why you think theyre as good as or better than the Capresso Infinity or Solis Maestro).

    Thanks - appreciate the help!


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    Welcome to CoffeeSnobs retokmeier.

    I must say I havent heard of the Capresso before you mentioned it but I am in Australia and assume you are not.

    A quick online hunt produced the following reviews.
    The Maestro Plus appears to get the worst reviews of the 3.

    You didnt say what the price range is but from what I can tell these are entry level grinders.
    If that is the budget level you have, then do your research before deciding on which one will give you best value for your money.
    Otherwise I always recommend buying better than you need right now so you wont have to buy a better grinder later.
    You did say you were looking to buy a better espresso machine as well. It will probably need a better grinder.

    Someone else should come along shortly to give you their 0.02 cents worth soon.

    http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/capressoinfinity

    http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/solis_maestro_grinder

    http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/solismaestroplus

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    Quote Originally Posted by retokmeier link=1163724277/0#8 date=1164555955
    2) What is the difference in features and quality between the Solis Maestro and Solis Maestro Plus? Is it worth stepping up to the Plus for the additional money?

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    Hi and welcome to CS...

    I dont know anything about the Capresso Infinity Burr grinder.... but Solis grinders are also made in Switzerland.... they are reasonably well made for the price but are really not up to espresso grinding (can barely grind fine enough and the grind varies from powder to grains in size.... the Plus version has a few more grind settings to grind finer - but not a lot of use due to the irregular size....

    Solis grinders are good for plunger coffee or any other style requiring reasonably large grain size..... the plus is OK for espresso machines with pressurised PFs..... but thats about it...

    And Burrs cant be replaced in either model!

    If you can, stretch your budget to a Lux (better for adjusting grind over a wide range) or Iberital Challenge (fine adjustments - but a pain to go from fine to coarse- lots of turns!).... both will handle all styles of grinding.... the Iberital is better for espresso only.

    These would be a better "long term" investment.

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    Anyone know the Rockys rpm?

    I have a Silvia. If I am to get a Rocky, do you recommend the Doser or Doserless version? Usage would be 2 or 3 shots per day.

    Is there a better value (i.e. less expensive) grinder that would make a good companion for Ms Silvia?

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by pszilard link=1163724277/0#11 date=1164604298
    Anyone know the Rockys rpm?

    I have a Silvia. If I am to get a Rocky, do you recommend the Doser or Doserless version? Usage would be 2 or 3 shots per day.

    Is there a better value (i.e. less expensive) grinder that would make a good companion for Ms Silvia?

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    Apparently the RPM of the Rocky is 1725.
    http://www.wholelattelove.com/Rancilio/rockyracilio.cfm

    Doser or doserless is a whole debate. If you have any kind of chance, try to use both (not necessarily the Rocky) and see if you have a preference.
    I have the doser model, but it does not function as a true doser, it is just a holding chamber for ground coffee really. I still like it, but I think it is what you get used to.

    Yes there are other alternatives. Contact a site sponsor and they will help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy link=1163724277/0#12 date=1164604675
    Apparently the RPM of the Rocky is 1725.
    http://www.wholelattelove.com/Rancilio/rockyracilio.cfm
    Yeah,

    That speed is what you get from a 60Hz power supply, here in Oz and other 50Hz mains supply countries the speed is closer to 1,425 RPM.....

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    Hey - thanks to all the experts who responded to my questions. Very helpful. ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1163724277/0#10 date=1164586155
    Quote Originally Posted by retokmeier link=1163724277/0#8 date=1164555955
    2) *What is the difference in features and quality between the Solis Maestro and Solis Maestro Plus? *Is it worth stepping up to the Plus for the additional money?

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    Hi and welcome to CS...

    I dont know anything about the Capresso Infinity Burr grinder.... but Solis grinders are also made in Switzerland.... they are reasonably well made for the price but are really not up to espresso grinding (can barely grind fine enough and the grind varies from powder to grains in size.... the Plus version has a few more grind settings to grind finer - but not a lot of use due to the irregular size....

    Solis grinders are good for plunger coffee or any other style requiring reasonably large grain size..... the plus is OK for espresso machines with pressurised PFs..... but thats about it...

    And Burrs cant be replaced in either model!

    If you can, stretch your budget to a Lux (better for adjusting grind over a wide range) or *Iberital Challenge (fine adjustments - but a pain to go from fine to coarse- lots of turns!).... both will handle all styles of grinding.... the Iberital is better for espresso only.

    These would be a better "long term" investment.

    Thats not what I have found - I know where the Solis Maestro Plus is being used to grind de-caf beans for commercial espresso machines with perfect results - and Burrs CAN BE replaced.

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    Metreo - the last line of that post is not required.
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    Hi Reto,

    I think that this isnt necessarily the best webpage to be asking the question, as I dont think that any of those grinders are available in Australia! I do know that Mark Prince has been recommending the baratza virtuoso for non-espresso use. Perhaps the best bang for your buck would be to pick that up or maybe this capresso and then get another grinder for espresso later on if you decide to get an espresso machine.

    Although price does not necessarily equal performance, I think that its usually fair to say that you dont want to fool around with cheap grinders for espresso if they are not designed with espresso in mind.

    If you ask on coffeegeek, Im sure that someone will be able to give you some advice based on actual, first-hand experience.

    Hope that helps,

    Luca

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    Hey Luca,

    Thanks for your feedback. I have looked at coffeegeek and some other sites, and the research doesnt always agree across different sites. So I was looking for a 3rd opinion from the Land Down Under, if you will, realizing that some models may not be available in Australia (hence my question about other recommendations). But your points are much appreciated and I will probably need to step up to get what I really want. Doesnt sound like the low end grinders will cut it (pardon the pun). ;)

    Reto

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    Quote Originally Posted by retokmeier link=1163724277/15#18 date=1164768748
    Doesnt sound like the low end grinders will cut it (pardon the pun). ;)
    Probably not if you want to do both espresso and drip, no. If you just want to do one, there are some economical options out there, particularly if its just drip or whatever.

    Cheers,

    Luca

    PS. The cap cup arrived today. I nearly fell over when the light hit the glaze!

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    Looks like based on advice (thanks to Luca and others) I will put a Mazzer Mini on my Christmas list.



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