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    Ive accepted the Challenge...

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Elisabeth and I went to visit Ofra and Renzo at Di Bartoli today and came away with some of their roasts, some of Hazels No.3 roast, a tamper and, oh yeah, a new Iberital Challenge Doserless Grinder as a Chrissy present to myself (and to complement the Solis Crema SL70 I bought off Robin (JavaB) some months back.

    The Solis SL70 has been good (better than the Sunbeam Cafe Crema that preceded it) but the DeLonghi KG100 (Solis 166) grinder really hasnt been up to par for this machine.

    Whilst I dont expect miracles, Im hoping for an improvement in my espresso or long blacks.

    Ive not had great success in consistent roasting so I thought Id change to a commercial roast for a while as I learn the grinder - in order to take one variable out of the equation. I use a popper for roasting and timing is critical. 30 seconds too long and the beens are too dark and oily - even bordering on black.

    Thanks to Renzo and Ofra for their assistance - they seem like nice people. They are going to regret selling to me - Im sure Im going to have questions for them. :-[

    Ron

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    Re: Ive accepted the Challenge...

    Congrats!

    You must have just missed me.
    I was there from about 2 until 3.

    When were you in?

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    From about 3 to 3.45pm. I caught a train from Bondi Junction at about 4pm.

    Wed been to Luna Park in rhe morning for the company Picnic Day.

    Ron

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    Yep, just missed me.
    I had to get the car out of the carpark by 3:22 so left by about 3:00.

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    Re: Ive accepted the Challenge...

    I wrote Solis SL70 - I should have written SL90.

    It doesnt seem possible to edit ones older posts.

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    Re: Ive accepted the Challenge...

    Ron,

    Havent seen you here much.

    Hows the SL90 going re that power problem?

    I bet the espresso has improved with your new grinder.

    The thing I miss most re the sl90 is its ability to take mugs under the PF.... I used to make some visitors "mugachinos" - a double shot of espresso - as i posted re a complaint that the Sivia wont take large cups - the reversable drip tray grill is a great idea.

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    Re: Ive accepted the Challenge...

    Looks like Ill have to talk to the eastern states sponsors about an iberital myself - I have found none over here in WA.

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    Hey Grendel- I can supply you with the challenge...

    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1164968087/0#5 date=1165117520
    The thing I miss most re the sl90 is its ability to take mugs under the PF.... I used to make some visitors "mugachinos" - a double shot of espresso - as i posted re a complaint that the Sivia wont take large cups - the reversable drip tray grill is a great idea.
    My mugs fit under the spout on the Expobar but my wife has some "pretty" cups that are too tall.
    Id really love some kind of lower drip tray.
    I havent figured out a mod yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1164968087/0#5 date=1165117520
    Ron,

    Havent seen you here much.

    Hows the SL90 going re that power problem?

    I bet the espresso has improved with your new grinder.
    But I lurk a lot, Robin. *I dont have a lot to offer so I read what the experts are saying. *I usually get on the forum when Im at work - its one of the few fora that are not blocked by SurfControl (I think because it doesnt have the word "forum" in the URL. *The AU Land Rover forum was blocked until I suggested changing "forum" in the URL to something else. *Now I can access it, too).

    The power problem really was annoying for some time (I pulled the unit apart but could find nowt obvious) but has disappeared (but now, by mentioning it, you will have raised the wrath of the Gods and it will reappear! * ;D )

    No, my espresso hasnt improved. *Im still trying to adjust the grinder. *There was no instructions with the grinder - I will have to contact Di Bartoli to see if there should be one. *Otherwise it will be a search of the net for both a manual and for tweaks and adjustment hints. *For example, there is a pushbutton on the RHS - I have no idea of its function. *

    Actually, until I can do a coffee appreciation course, I doubt my coffee will improve. *I had booked for one with Hazel del Reyes but that course didnt go ahead. *Im waiting for her next course. *Bothe Elisabeth and I will do it.

    Oh, my local (brand name) coffee shop has asked if Id like to come down and pull a few shots on their machine. *Elisabeth and I have coffee there most days (cos my coffee is crap! *:-[ ) and weve got to know them and to critique their staffs coffee making skills. *Weve told them that if certain persons are making the coffee, we wont even stop by as their coffee is mildly flavoured warm milk.
    Funnily enough, last week as I drank one that persons crap coffees, one of the old ladies at the adjacent table asked her friend how was her coffee. *Said friend replied it was delicious! * ::) *It takes all types. * :)


    Oh, Elisabeth reckons the GOOD coffees that Ive managed to make must be worth at least $50 a cup based on what Ive spent! ;D

    Ron

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    Ron,

    Sorry to hear you are still "creeping up" on those consistent good shots. Once you have mastered your new grinder it will be heaps easier to get just the right grind. Im finding with fresh roasted beans (used between about 3 to 5 days post roast - except the malabar thats 7 to 12 days) Im micro adjusting mine a couple of times a day to track the beans ageing.

    Sounds like the problem with power might have gone for good - Ill keep my fingers crossed - never had it myself so I think it must be transport related - moisture on the board, wire not making perfect contact etc

    My big beastie has now been mastered - milk texturing was the hardest bit - just so much power - if I wasnt careful I could empty the jug rather than froth the contents. It gets a regular workout now - demand has increased (mainly vistors who now request seconds, and thirds and....)

    You should enjoy the course (the commercial machine one I did was very beneficial). There are so many little things which can make a big difference to the end product.... and the most important you have just purchased - a good grinder with fine adjustment.

    Good luck with the rest of the journey - and hopefully the per cup cost will start to fall real soon!!

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    Hi Ron,

    I was quite frustrated when I first got my Iberital (doserless) as well. But love it now that I have got it set up and now that it is in the ballpark only takes minor adjustments as required.

    The thing is you have to adjust it a fair bit to get it to make much of a distance when setting it up. Sometimes it feels as though you are never going to have to stop twisting the adjustment knob. You just have to be prepared to go through some coffee if you are a novice (like me) to get it set up initially. Cant say I know what button you are talking about on the side though. The only buttons I have are the on/off switch and the switch to fire it up when the portafilter slots into place (or my finger to get rid of old grinds). So dont just turn it half a turn at first, you may need to turn the know a few revolutions until you get it somewhere near where it needs to be than make finer adjustments. Is heartbreaking as you pull undrinkable shot after undrinkable shot but well worth it once you are on the money.

    I love the Iberital now that I have it sorted, only downside from my point of view is that it is pretty much single purpose. But I only drink espresso anyway so is not a major issue for me. I am sure you will enjoy the new grinder once you get consistent drinkable shots.

    Just make sure your dosing is consitent everytime. I was told, by 2mcm, to check the puck each time before making grinder adjustments to ensure dosing is correct rather changing the grind straight up.

    I am sure Di Bartoli will point you in the right direction better than what I have described though.

    Brett

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    Congratulations on the Iberital, Ron. Ive had mine for almost 2 years and cant complain about it. Yes, the stepless adjustment can be a pain -- unlike the other variety, turning one "notch" will make no difference at all most of the time.

    But the timing screw is very handy for consistent doses.

    If yours came with a transparent stick-on scale, thats handy as a reference point, using a wire (straightened paper clip) as a pointer.

    Robusto

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1164968087/0#12 date=1165296487
    But the timing screw is very handy for consistent doses.
    Timing screw? Wheres that?

    Mine does have the stick on scale.

    I wasnt having much luck with getting the grind right so this morning I asked the local Michels for sample of their ground coffee (just a teaspoonful) so I had a starting point (I never thought to ask Renzo at Di Bartoli when I bought the grinder). Ive adjusted the Challenge to give a similar grind but my usual tamp must be too forceful now. The first attempt choked the SL90.

    Its off to work now so my next attempt will have to wait until tomorrow.

    Ron


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    Ron,

    I doubt your tamp is too hard (but it could be)...

    Its more likely the freshness of the beans.

    Stale beans need to be ground more finely than fresh beans.

    When I dont back off the grind setting going from week old to two day old beans, I get a similat effect......

    I find I need to adjust the grinder slightly finer a couple of times a day to track the beans as they age...... and then go back when I start with new beans.

    And some beans (or differntly roasted beans ) require finer/coarser grind setting at the same age...

    Id leave the tamp (for now) and just change the grind.

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    The beans were bought last Friday week from Di Bartoli - thats a week ago. *Ill back off the grinder.

    I was thinking of buying 1kg of beans from the supermarket to play with - they had a best before date of 10 Oct 07 so I suppose theyd be 2 months old. *They cost $24/kg vs twice that for beans from a roaster or someone like Gloria Jeans.

    My tamper is, at the moment, a pill bottle that fits the filter basket perfectly. *The various tampers I have are all too small or too big in diameter. *Some are hangovers from my previous machine, one came from you, Robin, the others were bought at various times by my wife without knowing the basket diameter.

    I think its time I ordered a Pullman (it would have been cheaper in the long run).

    Ron

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    Re: Ive accepted the Challenge...

    Here are some opinions on using supermarket coffee to play with:
    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1165640695/7#7

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    I saw those posts after I wrote the above.

    Ah well. Ive just roasted another 200 grams to play with.

    Ron



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