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    Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Coming soon...... [smiley=evil.gif]



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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Is it a Mazzer Lux? like this one? http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1264153532/0#0

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Mazzer Lux? No, the clue is in the thread title. In fact Ive worked out exactly what it is, but Im not telling *:-X

    Good one Mal [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Looks like a Jolly hopper - certainly not a Anfim Super Caimano or a Mazzer Robur!

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    Haha - I just did a google image search for my guess and found an identical picture (minus the grey).

    Good stuff Mal - youve been talking about this upgrade for a while, I believe?

    Cheers
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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Let me guess - Grinding blade speed - r.p.m. 420? 63mm Burrs? ;)

    Nasty!

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Quote Originally Posted by 34332820273532460 link=1264151261/1#1 date=1264153123
    [ch917][ch943][ch956][ch945][ch953] [ch954][ch940][ch952][ch945][ch961][ch956][ch945] *:-/
    You dont want to say that about yourself
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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Quote Originally Posted by 2522233724223124373822560 link=1264151261/5#5 date=1264155736
    Good stuff Mal - youve been talking about this upgrade for a while, I believe?

    Cheers
    Stu.

    I am pretty sure I know what it is (I dont need a picture)

    Just basing my deductive abilities on some previous posts and PMs

    Just call me Monk
    Mums the word :-X until further notice from the man himself ;)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    How did you do Greek text? Id love to be able to abuse people too without them knowing ;)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Quote Originally Posted by 40414B584643592A0 link=1264151261/9#9 date=1264162802
    How did you do Greek text? *Id love to be able to abuse people too without them knowing ;)
    It helps one to know Greek when one is of Greek origin
    Yes I know to speak,read & write in Greek ::)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Quote Originally Posted by 75747E6D73766C1F0 link=1264151261/9#9 date=1264162802
    How did you do Greek text?
    Quote the post and the answer will be revealed.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7E7F7566787D67140 link=1264151261/9#9 date=1264162802
    Id love to be able to abuse people too without them knowing
    The comment was about himself.

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    All will be revealed in a few days time.... ;) ::)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Quote Originally Posted by 103D393538540 link=1264151261/11#11 date=1264169578
    All will be revealed in a few days time.... ;) ::)

    Mal.
    What a tease......................the suspense of it all :D :D :D ::) ::) ::)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    A coffee allergy??

    Greg
    (Sorry, I know that would be very cruel.)

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    I was hoping to get hooked up with the same grinder - less the E (and not new) but it fell through a couple of months ago.

    Now Im starting to think about the Vario Home (new since I dont think I could get it second hand, which breaks my tightarse heart) to have a single grinder that will manage espresso and drip/pour over/plunger.

    The problem that I have is that I legitimately have the space to get a second hand deli grinder and another second hand ex commercial solely for espresso. And it would probably come to less than the Vario

    Erk.

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    Hmm think I might know and youll be a very happy man *;)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Its here..... :D [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Pics?

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Quote Originally Posted by 7855515D503C0 link=1264151261/16#16 date=1264662230
    Its here..... :D [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

    Mal.
    woohoo thats great. Now you need to go thru bout 5kg of beans to season and settle in the grinder. :)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Pics mal, come on! youd be peeved if we didnt ;)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Oh yes i remember now......just googled to check, found the image.....wont spoil it though for those who dont know yet....he he! someone is going to be caffeinated tonight!

    ps heres another bit to confuse ppl more......zoomed right in ;)


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    We might not hear from Mal for a while...he wont be able to pry himself away ;D

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Enjoy! I look forward to owning one one day, but alas that day is still a long way off.

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Well, here we go.... ;)

    Some pics to ease the anxiety.

    First off though, must give a huge thank-you to Chris of Talk Coffee for his excellent service and prompt action. Pretty hard to beat I reckon... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] 8-)

    Once I recovered from the shock of the physical size of this baby and after reading the Manual, it only took 10 minutes and about five shots to dial-in for the perfect shot, absolutely easy as with this beauty. Just what I was hoping for as I continue to lose dexterity and strength in my hands, and the main reason I stretched the budget so far. No doubt as time goes on some small adjustments will be necessary but nothing earth-shattering and besides, its so darn easy to do anyway ;D.

    Everyone around here knows, that you have to buy the best grinder you possibly can as it makes such a huge difference to the quality in the cup. To be honest, I wasnt really expecting anything beyond just a subtle improvement over the M4 and the LSM SM-90A before that.... How wrong can a bloke be? The improvement in the cup just blew me away :o. It beggars belief but I thought I was doing pretty well with my M4 and previous Planar Burr grinders but now... Its almost as though Im using a different and better varietal of coffee, the differences in the cup are so pronounced.

    Whereas with the Planar Burr grinders, one could describe the spectrum of flavours perceived as a typical 16:10 landscape sweeping from the left through to the right, with the Kony-E this landscape has now taken on the dimensions of a 3D Imax Movie Screen. I just never realised that so many new flavours were hiding away there in the background. Overall, I would have to say that the flavour profile has brightened up somewhat and in truth, is more balanced with the chocolate and caramel notes of the Peru Villa Grace Estate beans that I am using (roasted about two weeks ago in the Corretto).

    Im not going to go on and on about it but if you can, see if you can experience it for yourself, with your own beans at an establishment who wont mind you giving a Kony-E or Robur-E a whirl. It really is worth doing.

    Ok, on with the piccies now, Ive gas-bagged enough.... ::)

    Did I mention that the Kony-E is, ahem... rather large :o See for yourselves.... ;)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Quote Originally Posted by 7A4B5C4544434845532A0 link=1264151261/22#22 date=1264674163
    Enjoy! I look forward to owning one one day, but alas that day is still a long way off.
    Absolutely mate. Most definitely worth the wait.... 8-)

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Congratulations Mal - I cant imagine that youd ever need another upgrade! 8-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by 76575C5C5B41320 link=1264151261/25#25 date=1264675421
    Congratulations Mal - I cant imagine that youd ever need another upgrade! *8-)
    Thanks Den....

    Youve certainly got that right mate. Superlatively happy right now..... ;D

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    Congrats Mal, it looks spectacular. Welcome to the Kony-e club *:)

    Quote Originally Posted by 1C31353934580 link=1264151261/23#23 date=1264674618
    How wrong can a bloke be? The improvement in the cup just blew me away . It beggars belief but I thought I was doing pretty well with my M4 and previous Planar Burr grinders but now... Its almost as though Im using a different and better varietal of coffee, the differences in the cup are so pronounced
    It is amazing and it has to be tasted to be believed. The good news is the journey has now begun to discover new flavours in beans you have had before. Enjoy the trip *;)

    Quote Originally Posted by 1C31353934580 link=1264151261/23#23 date=1264674618
    Overall, I would have to say that the flavour profile has brightened up somewhat *
    And thats the beauty of home roasting, you can adjust the roast profile to alter the brightness. I also managed to control this somewhat through dose.

    I look forward to reading about your experiences with Kony-e. Youve got one hell-of-a weekend ahead of you with Kony.

    Javabeen.

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Congratulations.

    Have you ground some up for the syphon yet?




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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    How good does that look Mal?!! *:o

    I didnt realise that you got a stealthy Kony-e as well! *8-) (note to self, check contents more carefully when adding coffee stash...)

    I reckon they look AMAZING in black- even more so than the medium grey...Yours and mine are the only two that are in Australia so far as I know. The pics really dont show it but its a really cool matt finish...

    On shots, I mirror everything that you say. Those who think that the conicals are hype are yet to taste the difference themselves IMHO and I think that the upgrade pathway after you have the HX and good flat burr grinder is not a better HX or dual boiler- its a conical. The Kony-e is an amazing grinder and if there is no real budget, it may be the definitive home setup. The Robur-e is faster, but massive overkill for home.

    (NB- The Kony-e is much faster than a doser Kony and I still wouldnt have a Kony vanilla as its too slow.)

    Enjoy the much more frequent godshots Mal and sincere thanks for your support!

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    Thats a beauty mate
    Its the grinder I thought you were getting Mal

    I am saving up for its big brother :D

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    Congratulations mate - that looks like a ripper! After coming back from up north and nestling in at home again there is really nothing like a great coffee and you have the ultimate equipment for that...including the skills to make it so ;). Cheers Mal.


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    Thank you everyone....

    It has, without doubt, taken my enjoyment of the bean to a new level. Im going to fire up the Syphon tomorrow TG, just to see how many flavour traits I can actually identify. And youre spot-on javab, Ive got a whole new world of coffee to explore, all over again... With the same beans :D How good is that.... 8-)

    Yeah Chris, the "stealthy" Kony looks very sharp indeed and the photos dont really do it justice. Simply put, its real beauty. Yours looks mighty fine there mate, next to the LM. Actually Chris, talking about speed.... Ive never ever weighed the coffee charge Ive habitually gotten used to dosing so in setting up the Kony-E, I weighed five individual Double charges ground with the M4 and then averaged this to arrive at a nominal setting for the Kony.

    Turns out Ive been dosing 21g +/- 0.75g into the Synesso baskets (doesnt hit the shower-screen and with a 10-12Kg tamp). After some very minor fiddling setting up the timer, it takes the Kony-E just over ten seconds to grind this into the basket. The shot to shot charge weight is super consistent too at a variance (for a dozen consecutive shots) of only +/- 0.3g.... Theres no way I could even attempt to better this. And, its so easy to do.... ;D

    Quote Originally Posted by 16323B3B38380216322E30325D0 link=1264151261/30#30 date=1264678254
    I am saving up for its big brother * :D
    Goodness me mate :-?.... You do realise just how big the Robur-E is? Its half as big again than the Kony-E, a veritable monster :o It would be the last grinder you ever needed to buy though...

    Quote Originally Posted by 32272E3E3229295D0 link=1264151261/31#31 date=1264678824
    Congratulations mate - that looks like a ripper! *After coming back from up north and nestling in at home again there is really nothing like a great coffee and you have the ultimate equipment for that...including the skills to make it so ;).
    Thanks Oz.... She is a ripper mate, in both name and performance ;D

    I can only but imagine how one of these, paired up with your Due, would perform. The mind boggles.... :o

    Thoroughly and highly recommended.... 8-)

    Well, I better hit the hay shortly, tomorrow and the coming weekend is going to be busy, doing a lot of experimentation with the odd freshly roasted bean or three; using all the brew methods I have at my disposal. So, gnight all and catch you anon.... :)

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    Mal, my congrats & envy also. That is HUGE. I would need a new house if I brought one of those monsters as I would be kicked out of my current one :-[..........Ah well, eventually a M4D will find its way home until then Rocky will suffice ::)

    Enjoy, Steve. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 634E4A464B270 link=1264151261/23#23 date=1264674618
    Whereas with the Planar Burr grinders, one could describe the spectrum of flavours perceived as a typical 16:10 landscape sweeping from the left through to the right, with the Kony-E this landscape has now taken on the dimensions of a 3D Imax Movie Screen. I just never realised that so many new flavours were hiding away there in the background.
    That quote is going straight to the pool room. Such a fantastic description!

    Well done Mal - and boy does she look pretty!

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    Congrats Mal but you may have launched a new epidemic of upgradeitis on us long-suffering CSers. Chris is obviously your willing accomplice or, indeed, the source of the epidemic (you are just a carrier). May you long enjoy your newly acquired [s]affliction[/s], sorry, affection.

    Ill need to find a way to break the news to my long-suffering wife about this new epidemic. Ill do it gently by nobly sacrificing my request for a new guitar in the name of greater coffee enjoyment (for which she can also reap rewards)

    Onward and upward; all for one, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by 775A5E525F330 link=1264151261/32#32 date=1264686900
    Goodness me mate Huh.... You do realise just how big the Robur-E is? Its half as big again than the Kony-E, a veritable monster Shocked It would be the last grinder you ever needed to buy though...
    Yea I know how big it is (I have always wanted to be a crane operator)
    Space in not an issue at my place

    I have ordered some new Burrs for the Major, its almost as big as your new Kony
    Not in to much of a hurry to upgrade because I am enjoying every cup that is ground by the Major ;)
    Those 83mm burrs make a huge difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by 202A3F2828273335460 link=1264151261/35#35 date=1264717690
    Chris is obviously your willing accomplice or, indeed, the source of the epidemic (you are just a carrier)
    I didnt do nothin...The horse was already at the water and drank of its own volition...Really it did! You gotta believe me!! *[smiley=engel017.gif]

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35000D0A3E220E07070404610 link=1264151261/37#37 date=1264718378
    The horse was already at the water and drank of its own volition
    True - the horse had long indicated its thirst but I think we better get a water analysis done to check for certain..errr..additives ;)

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    Hi Mal,
    Hearty congratulations to you on your new toy.....and what a beauty it is!

    I feel that you will soon wonder why you you didnt take the plunge earlier.

    All the best,
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    What a bloody bottler Mal congratulations I can just imagine the smile on your face, ;D ;DHave fun with your new toy mate..

    Cheers Gra..




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    Quote Originally Posted by 634E4A464B270 link=1264151261/32#32 date=1264686900
    Thanks Oz.... She is a ripper mate, in both name and performance Grin

    I can only but imagine how one of these, paired up with your Due, would perform. The mind boggles.... Shocked

    Please dont get me thinking Mal!! (I dont need the rubber arm bent.. 8-).)

    Cheers

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    Fantastic, Mal. Congrats on the new beast.

    Severe grinder envy going on at my place at the moment. Ive had this machine on my mind ever since I experienced Chriss Robur-E in his "shed" last week. Enjoy.

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    Thats not too big. Without the hopper its a perfect match for your Diadema JE.

    Looks fantastic and sounds like it was definitely worthwhile. Congratulations Mal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2237123E222C3F283F4D0 link=1264151261/43#43 date=1264814118
    Thats not too big. Without the hopper its a perfect match for your Diadema JE.

    Looks fantastic and sounds like it was definitely worthwhile. Congratulations Mal!
    Attempting to use this type of grinder without a hopper would be extremely dangerous and I am certain that Mal is using his hopper. There is a safety cutout to prevent operation without the hopper.

    When the hopper is on the grinder, a tab slots into the body to allow the grinder to operate.

    The augur in the throad of the grinder would take a finger off instantly

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7B243C2A212A262F2F2C2C242827490 link=1264151261/44#44 date=1264818688
    The augur in the throad of the grinder would take a finger off instantly
    Ouch!

    My comment was really was about the relative size of the Kony-e not its operation although anyone who would stick their fingers into the throat of any grinder while its operating is a prime candidate for a Darwin Award (babies and toddlers excepted).

    Reminds me of the mythical Swedish chainsaw warning thats been floating around the net since the 90s - "Do Not Attempt To Stop Chain With Hands Or Genitals".



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    Quote Originally Posted by 673820363D363A3333303038343B550 link=1264151261/44#44 date=1264818688
    Attempting to use this type of grinder without a hopper would be extremely dangerous and I am certain that Mal is using his hopper. There is a safety cutout to prevent operation without the hopper.
    You betcha mate [smiley=thumbsup.gif]....

    Not only is there close to 1/2 HP behind that auger but it is pretty darn sharp too. I think youd lose a finger in a flash, before you even realised it..... ~~shudder~~

    One thing I did mean to ask you Chris, does one of the smaller Mazzer hoppers fit the Kony? Dont think Im going to have many days where Ill need to grind through nearly 1.5Kg of beans... :o ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6944404C412D0 link=1264151261/46#46 date=1264833142
    Dont think Im going to have many days where Ill need to grind through nearly 1.5Kg of beans... *
    Are you sure?

    You might find theres a sudden flood of CSers wanting to visit now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44517458444A594E592B0 link=1264151261/45#45 date=1264825420
    My comment was really was about the relative size of the Kony-e not its operation
    Thought that was what you probably meant Dom... Without the Hopper the Kony sits very close to level with the top of the DJE.

    The next thing Im going to have to find is some sort of cover to throw over both toys. We have ridiculous amounts of suspended soil in the air where we are; all the farming I guess; but it sure piles on top of everything around and in the house. Always something else to do.... :-?

    Mal.

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    Re: Something to cure my longing for the Perfect Grinder...

    Quote Originally Posted by 7A465B404A4B5C49414A2E0 link=1264151261/47#47 date=1264833435
    Quote Originally Posted by 6944404C412D0 link=1264151261/46#46 date=1264833142
    Dont think Im going to have many days where Ill need to grind through nearly 1.5Kg of beans... *
    Are you sure.

    You might find theres a sudden flood of CSers wanting to visit now.
    Yeah well.... ::)

    That has kind of been in the back of my mind too TG ;D... Just about to head off and try another brew or three in the Syphon mate, with some different (more lightly roasted) beans. Ill let you know how it works out....

    Mal.



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