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    Mazzer mini v the world

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    Buy a minni Mazza. Nothing alse compares, period. They will take years and years of abuse if needed although im sure you wont do that :)

    I have used them as decaf grinders in shops doing at least 4 kg of decaf a week and have never had an issue. We have had them for YEARS. Best of luck.

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 1635262635373F540 link=1269952732/7#7 date=1270093843
    Buy a minni Mazza. Nothing alse compares, period.
    Sure, Mazzer make excellent grinders but to say that "Nothing else compares, period."; thats just a little over the top in my view. There are several erstwhile alternatives to Mazzer grinders that also possess excellent industry credentials.....

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 426F6B676A060 link=1269952732/8#8 date=1270105224
    Sure, Mazzer make excellent grinders but to say that "Nothing else compares, period."; thats just a little over the top in my view. There are several erstwhile alternatives to Mazzer grinders that also possess excellent industry credentials.....

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    In industry, I dont think anything comes close to Mazzer for street cred. For home, its a different story.

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 6D40444845290 link=1269952732/8#8 date=1270105224
    Sure, Mazzer make excellent grinders but to say that "Nothing else compares, period."; thats just a little over the top in my view. There are several erstwhile alternatives to Mazzer grinders that also possess excellent industry credentials.....

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    Fill me in Mal. What are some of these mystical grinders you speak of?? ;) grinders that have stood the test of time like the mazzers?? No plastic parts of course and are as robust as the mazzer.. I have tried ALOT of grinders btw... We have 4 shops in lil old Tassie and sometimes find Mini Mazzers hard to source for people (like now) who want them. Fill me in please.

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Ohh and i said nothing else compares to the mini mazz btw. Thats under $800, so thats your budget.. Cheers.

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 684A4C57505A4C3F0 link=1269952732/10#10 date=1270117445
    In industry, I dont think anything comes close to Mazzer for street cred. For home, its a different story.
    I apply everything from work to home in coffee!! It all has to be of that standard. Know what i mean?? No second rate coffee for me thanks :)

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Ohh and not saying other grinders would make it second rate coffee :o

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Im not going to get into any kind of pissing contest guys, but there are a number of other makes of grinder that I would be very happy to own and use (if physical and medical constraints were not an issue, especially). Most unfortunately, are more generic in their presence in Europe than they are here in Oz due to our small market but you do see them around from time to time and the level of design and engineering is of very high quality....

    Over-reaching, blanket statements of the type made above though, are not really very helpful to someone coming into the espresso scene as a newbie, no matter who makes the statement but particularly so when it is made by someone who works in hospitality, such as yourself....

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 1D30343835590 link=1269952732/15#15 date=1270126641
    Im not going to get into any kind of pissing contest guys, but there are a number of other makes of grinder that I would be very happy to own and use (if physical and medical constraints were not an issue, especially). Most unfortunately, are more generic in their presence in Europe than they are here in Oz due to our small market but you do see them around from time to time and the level of design and engineering is of very high quality....

    Over-reaching, blanket statements of the type made above though, are not really very helpful to someone coming into the espresso scene as a newbie, no matter who makes the statement but particularly so when it is made by someone who works in hospitality, such as yourself....

    Mal. *
    Pissing contest?? Oh dear, proffesional of you... I work in specialty coffee Mal and my opinion has been earnt through alot of hard work in my field. I was merley stating that i dont think anything else compares to a mini mazz in that price range. You have STILL failed to give me an example. So like i said earlier, enlighten me Mal. I would love to be able to tell others of these grinders, i really would. But over-reaching and blanketing?? Explain what you mean?? What IS helpfull to people new to coffee is real life coffee experience. I feel that i have that and would love to share my professional and personall opinions with others..
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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 6A495A5A494B43280 link=1269952732/16#16 date=1270175168
    Pissing contest?? Oh dear, proffesional of you... I work in specialty coffee Mal and my opinion has been earnt through alot of hard work in my field. I was merley stating that i dont think anything else compares to a mini mazz in that price range. You have STILL failed to give me an example. So like i said earlier, enlighten me...
    Given earlier posts today regarding the recent full moon and the recently published best seller entitled CS etiquette #101 for dummies (essential reading); and also to help placate a concrete thinker, Ill start a list...merely to assist in the removal of the blinkers..

    • Mazap M4/M5- just as well built, quieter, just as fast, sweeps better, better finish, more accurate adjustment, easy to clean and better value for money.
    • Compak K3E WBC. Best doser in the business. Hugely robust grinder and better value as well.


    The Mazzer is a good grinder and has a well-deserved reputation. It is not the only choice in the price bracket.

    Herewith, my mark on the wall ::)

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 257A62747F7478717172727A7679170 link=1269952732/17#17 date=1270176010
    Mazap M4/M5- just as well built, quieter, just as fast, sweeps better, better finish, more accurate adjustment, easy to clean and better value for money.
    Macap hey?? Fair enough, i prefer stepless grinder adjustments though, personally. Steps could perhaps keep you from "the perfect pour"! Each step on the Macap is at least 2 seconds in pour time, at least. ;)

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 1E3D2E2E3D3F375C0 link=1270093844/10#10 date=1270176730
    Macap hey?? Fair enough, i prefer stepless grinder adjustments though
    Back to the books Barrack, you need to do your homework...All M4/5 Australian stock has been micrometric adjustment for a long time now....

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 520D150308030F060605050D010E600 link=1270093844/9#9 date=1270176010
    Compak K3E WBC. Best doser in the business. Hugely robust grinder and better value as well.

    Oh dear, cant comment on this one!! :o May be in trouble ;) Have read a fair bit on them but have not personally used the compak.. :(

    The call on the blinkers was not needed btw, moderator.. :)

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 217E66707B707C757576767E727D130 link=1270093844/11#11 date=1270176909
    Back to the books Barrack, you need to do your homework...All M4/5 Australian stock has been micrometric adjustment for a long time now....
    How long we talking??

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 4566757566646C070 link=1270093844/13#13 date=1270177464
    Quote Originally Posted by 217E66707B707C757576767E727D130 link=1270093844/11#11 date=1270176909
    Back to the books Barrack, you need to do your homework...All M4/5 Australian stock has been micrometric adjustment for a long time now....
    How long we talking??
    Longer than an attention span...2 years or so from the main importer.

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    ohh dear, my apolgies then :( Have not used one in at least 4 years.. Any other changes? Or is that all? And in your opinion, other than "value". What makes them better than the Mini Mazz?? Userbility?? Wear? Noise? From memory they are slighty quiter than the mini whilst under load.

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 4F6C7F7F6C6E660D0 link=1270093844/15#15 date=1270177708
    Have not used one in at least 4 years
    Quote Originally Posted by 4F6C7F7F6C6E660D0 link=1270093844/15#15 date=1270177708
    From memory they are slighty quiter than the mini whilst under load
    Matey, if you cant read or remember what is written a few posts up, how can you possibly remember if they were slightly quieter or not?

    To save you scrolling up...

    Quote Originally Posted by 4F6C7F7F6C6E660D0 link=1270093844/15#15 date=1270177708
    What makes them better than the Mini Mazz
    Quote Originally Posted by 3F60786E656E626B6B6868606C630D0 link=1270093844/9#9 date=1270176010
    Mazap M4/M5- just as well built, quieter, just as fast, sweeps better, better finish, more accurate adjustment, easy to clean and better value for money.
    Youve, been shown to be incorrect. Might be time to move on and give us your insight into another area?



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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    I have used Mazzers from Minis to Roburs and found them to be of excellent build quality & very good grinders

    I have owned a Macap M4D and found it to also be an excellent grinder and of great build quality


    I now own & use on a daily basis a Mazzer Major and believe me the extra 20mm or so in burr size makes a huge difference but I understand that comes at a higher price

    I am also a firm believer that a grinder is the most important piece of equipment in ones coffee equipment arsenal

    Although price does matter the grinders mentioned above are both good

    KK

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    For home use, i think id rather have a compak k3 touch than a mazzer mini. Nicer design, no doser to clean out, identical burrs, lower price.

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    There is no right or wrong answer here. All I know is from my experience when buying my mazzer mini, I consulted 3 site sponsors, as I had an open mind between compak K3, Mazzer Mini and Macaps. The answer was unanimous between all 3 sponsors. All of the above were great grinders each with pros and cons. Then I would ask if you remove price as a deciding factor which would you recommend and they all recommended the mazzer mini.

    So it seems to me it is probably the best in range. If you dont want to pay the extra 200 or want doserless then compak k3 is better. none of the three sponsors recommended the macap over the mazzer mini when I was looking.

    Like I said, I went in with an open mind - although brand snobbery does affect decision making sometimes - and the mazzer gets a leg up in this department. But all three site sponsors said if youre looking up to $800, you cant go past the mazzer mini. This is just my experience.

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Hmmm.....

    All that needed to be said has, I believe...

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Hello Mal and others.

    There is one other thing.

    There was a comment made above, something about stepped grinders and how *the difference in a step "......could perhaps keep you from "the perfect pour"! Each step on the Macap is at least 2 seconds in pour time, at least...."

    Sorry, but *wrt the quote and resulting quality of brew.....this is irrelevant.

    A baristas technique takes all manner of variables into account, only one of them is the difference between one step and another, which is easily taken care of in minor adjustments in personal technique of dose / settle / tamp, to achieve the result they want.

    Dont blame the equipment * ;)


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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 0F2C3F3F2C2E264D0 link=1270093844/8#8 date=1270175168
    What IS helpfull to people new to coffee is real life coffee experience. I feel that i have that and would love to share my professional and personall opinions with others..
    Quote Originally Posted by 0F2C3F3F2C2E264D0 link=1270093844/15#15 date=1270177708
    Have not used one in at least 4 years..
    Quote Originally Posted by 0F2C3F3F2C2E264D0 link=1270093844/12#12 date=1270177418
    have not personally used the compak.. *

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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 536770667D4A567A73737070150 link=1270093844/21#21 date=1270200558
    There was a comment made above, something about stepped grinders and how *the difference in a step "......could perhaps keep you from "the perfect pour"! Each step on the Macap is at least 2 seconds in pour time, at least...."
    Gday Attilio.... :)

    As you know mate, I actually prefer commercial grinders with Stepped Adjustment. You cant compare the step-changes of a domestic grinder like a Rocky with that of commercial grinders like Macap and others. The step changes are so small as to be irrelevant for all practical purposes but provide a really positive method to rapidly change settings and back again... I know on my LSM SM-90A, each step change equated to a vertical shift of only 5.56 microns (measured) and in terms of changes to brew-time, resulted in only a 1.0 second change at most, usually less than this.

    It all comes down to an individuals requirements, what ever that scope may be and as always Attilio, you make a lot of sense.... 8-)

    Cheers mate,
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    Re: Mazzer mini v the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 7A4E594F54637F535A5A59593C0 link=1270093844/21#21 date=1270200558
    A baristas technique takes all manner of variables into account, only one of them is the difference between one step and another, which is easily taken care of in minor adjustments in personal technique of dose / settle / tamp, to achieve the result they want.
    Great point Attilio, but we cant forget that Barrack is a "comp barista" AND "slayer specialist" so his technique must be perfect.... ::)



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