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    Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    If you are a collector or admirer

    Hand grinders built for 100+ years ago are still in service today
    Quality engineering and build quality is an integral part of these wonderful machines

    If you have a hand grinder & if possible some background information we would like to see it posted here

    Conversely you may want to find information on a unit if so I am sure some knowledgeable CS members will have some answers

    KK

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Here is my collection to date
    [see photo]

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Pe De Dienes
    This is my largest hand grinder

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    KYM Grinder

    This is in as new condition
    I believe it was made in the 1950s

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    A Trosser Hand grinder
    Has curved sides and known as a knee grinder

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    A little Italian beauty
    Small and dainty grinder

    Not sure if the label is MG or BG
    The fine print on the label says
    [Machina Acciato Garantito]

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    A Zassenhaus hand grinder

    This one will be restored when I get some time

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    My Mums Parents used to have a wall mounted grinder similar to this one...



    I cant really remember a lot about it except that the freshly roasted coffee ground for a Drip Coffee Maker smelled fantastic while grinding. It was quite efficient too and easy to adjust but I have no idea where it ended up.... A pity really :(

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    I have added to the box hand grinder collection recently
    Another lovely Zassenhaus

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Bought this off Trade Me, listed as a "smallish" grinder, I wonder what a large hand grinder would look like.
    Shes a beauty though and $20, what were they thinking ;)

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 100706180D0C07535053620 link=1272689091/9#9 date=1276813530
    Bought this off Trade Me, listed as a "smallish" grinder, I wonder what a large hand grinder would look like.
    Shes a beauty though and $20, what were they thinking ;)

    Chris
    Out of all my grinders the Pe De Dienes grinders are the largest

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    I have had the great fortune to come across this lovely grinder
    So whats a self respecting Coffee Snob supposed to do, but to purchased it

    Pe De Dienes Mokka



    Metal Labels
    Grind mechanism is in excellent condition
    Timber structure is very good
    I will refurbish this one when time permits

    I like the quality of the Pe De grinders and these are quite large as compared to the others in the collection

    KK


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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 4255544A5F5E55010201300 link=1272689091/9#9 date=1276813530
    Bought this off Trade Me, listed as a "smallish" grinder, I wonder what a large hand grinder would look like.
    Shes a beauty though and $20, what were they thinking *;)

    Chris
    Its all relative.

    Compared to the grinder behind it, it is small.

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Those grinders look great. Ive been thinking of getting one myself, where do you find them?

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 5748655F5E3A0 link=1272689091/13#13 date=1280049488
    Those grinders look great. Ive been thinking of getting one myself, where do you find them?
    Thrift shops
    Garage Sales
    E bay
    Trade me - NZ
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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Thanks Ill have to sart popping into thift stores and the like from now on.

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Hi i was wondering if anyone here could help me identify what hand grinder this is. It looks like the top may have been painted in a white enamel at some point and the adjustments are made at the top if that helps. thanks


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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Unusual. It uses dove-tail joints. The grinder assembly looks similar to KKs Zassenhaus ones at replies #6 and #8 above.

    The top and drawer look to made from different wood to the sides. I wonder of the box is home made?

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Yeah its got me puzzled i have seen similar but not close enough to destinguish who made it. The drawer looks like it belongs to it






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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 7A766D657863170 link=1272689091/16#16 date=1291180288
    could help me identify what hand grinder this is.
    I think you will find it to be a Dienes, the dovetail joints are unusual but I think I have seen one them on the bay of evil before.

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Of the 14 wooden hand grinders to hand, the only one with dovetailing is marked WSM Klingenthal.

    The dovetailing on mine is similar, but there is none in the drawer.

    Yours I think is an earlier model than ours, and better constructed.

    Nice grinder, have fun!

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Both the Pe De Dienes & Zassenhaus grinders have there names on the handle

    If there is no name branded on the handle then my guess is a Kim or Trosser

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Hi KK

    the photos of some earlier Deines grinders I have seen show a plain handle, most of the PeDe badged ones seem to have engraved handles.

    There is a few dedicated sites in Europe on hand grinders that might help with an actual ID.

    Large thread on Home Barista on hand grinders for info http://www.home-barista.com/grinders...l?hilit=dienes

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 5B5C58575F554050575E390 link=1272689091/22#22 date=1291239599
    the photos of some earlier Deines grinders I have seen show a plain handle, most of the PeDe badged ones seem to have engraved handles. *
    All my hand grinders are also on that site at around the 40s page numbers

    Its also what prompted me to start a thread for local collectors here on Coffee Snobs

    However its hard but not impossible to find a maker without any identification, marks/plaques/stickers


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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    I actually had a poke around for Dienes grinders, found a great french site (with english translation) with nearly 300 hand grinders. Deines was started in 1860 and ran until 1962. Also ran across a similar dutch (forgotten the brand) one to the one above but a fairly different chrome bell.

    Must take pics of my few and add them here too in my spare time ::)

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    Heres a grinder I recently inherited. My parents bought it in the UK in the late 50s. I think its known as a knee grinder, cause you hold it between your knees. The shape is rounded to make it more comfortable to hold that way.

    The name plate is very worn, but the top word looks like Corona, and on the lower line I think it says Acier forge. Havent been able to find any other information about it. Burrs are still quite sharp, and can still put out a fine espresso grind.

    If anyone knows any more about it, I would be pleased to know.

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Trying again to post pictures!

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    And the name plate,fwiw

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Zassenhaus had Acier forge. on some of there grinder name plates



    However Corona hints that it may be the Bodum brand??

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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    great thread!

    I love hand grinders and use one almost every week. I have a Gaggia electric burr grinder- but it is good to have a hand grinder for separate blends, and definitely for travel.

    I have tested quite a few and have found that Kym, Zassenhaus, Pe De, Spong and Dienes can all be good brands. However there is a good deal of variance from one model to another and not all hand grinders are good for fine espresso grinding. Also there can be a lot of variation in the speed of the grinder- some munch through the beans- others only chip away and take an age to get the job done.

    I have a small KYM which has all dovetail joints like the one above- and it is a superb little grinder.

    here are pics of a few interesting ones I have had- a cast Iron Spong from the UK- a lovely chrome Italian grinder and my beloved Kym:










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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    I just thought I would add:

    cleaning and restoring these grinders is usually very easy.

    Cast iron grinders like the Spongs are virtually indestructible- but the wooden grinders often have splits in the wood, loose screws or other small issues. A screwdriver, adjustable spanner, some wood glue and pliers are about all you need. The burrs can be cleaned with caffeto or similar. Take care when undoing the burr assembly as there is often a small ball bearing on the back of the grinding burr- it can fall out and be lost easily...

    Nothing beats grinding beans- but if you dont have any with you- some things to look for in a grinder are:

    1) Burrs: worn, rusted? Look on the rear of the burr set- how closely to the edges match? On the finest adjustment are the inner and outer burrs almost meeting? When you try turning the handle at the finest setting do the burrs rub unevenly? A little of this may be ok and disappear when beans are in the grinder- but ideally you want a smooth motion- and very even matching of the burrs.

    2) How does the grind setting adjust? Most box grinders have a small lever/screw inside the grinder under the burr set. It is a little difficult to access: you have to remove the grinds tray... but it is usually stepless, and adjusts easily.

    Other models have an adjustment at the top of the grinder on the shaft. These ones have little tabs, are not stepless, and and are sometimes quite annoying and inaccurate to operate.

    The best grinders have some kind of stepless adjustment on the top of the grinder.

    Pictured here is a Zassenhaus Moka Knee Grinder. This is a top of the range model- superb craftsmanship- stunning wood- and clever grind adjustment:








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    Re: Manual Hand Grinders Collectors Thread

    Just took my grinder apart and gave it a quick clean up. Some dried on crud, but burrs still shiny, no signs of corrosion. It has a thrust plate rather than a ball so Ive packed a little wad of ptfe plumbers tape to take up any wear and act as a low friction bearing. Also put a little bit in the well where the grind adjuster pin sits. Everything now moves very easily. Got the tip for using the plumbers tape method for packing worn joints on woodwind intruments. Same stuff as non-stick pans so wont be toxic if any does work its way into the coffee (unless heated to over 400C...)

    R



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