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    Hi guys,

    I have a Bregent Junior coffee grinder. It is similar to this one in the FS section : http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1269419232]

    I am thinking of upgrading to the Anfim Best. I want to ask if i will notice a significant increase in quality of grind from this upgrade.

    I am quite happy with my current grinder as it is quite consistent and can produce really fine espresso grind.

    I also like the small size of the Anfim Best as space is quite limited in my kitchen. :-/

    Look forward to your suggestions. :)

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    anyone? :-/

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    If you are happy with your current grinder, why do YOU want to upgrade?

    Do you have any reason to believe you will get a better grind quality from the Anfim? Or is is mainly driven by space requirements?

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    Some info here that might help, dont think there is to many around here :-/

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1245668769

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by 474055434E587E10181818210 link=1273716704/2#2 date=1273804414
    If you are happy with your current grinder, why do YOU want to upgrade?

    Do you have any reason to believe you will get a better grind quality from the Anfim? Or is is mainly driven by space requirements?
    Hi fatboy,

    Some time back i read on CS that more expensive grinder deliver more flavor from the coffee. Something to do with burr size i think?

    Plus i have a rossi rr45 at work. The flavour and smell when using that grinder is so strong. You can really smell the coffee.

    So i cant help but think that my grinder might be lacking.

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by 303F242830353027510 link=1273716704/4#4 date=1273806155
    Quote Originally Posted by 474055434E587E10181818210 link=1273716704/2#2 date=1273804414
    If you are happy with your current grinder, why do YOU want to upgrade?

    Do you have any reason to believe you will get a better grind quality from the Anfim? Or is is mainly driven by space requirements?
    Hi fatboy,

    Some time back i read on CS that more expensive grinder deliver more flavor from the coffee. Something to do with burr size i think?

    Plus i have a rossi rr45 at work. The flavour and smell when using that grinder is so strong. You can really smell the coffee.

    So i cant help but think that my grinder might be lacking.
    Well. I WANT to say that you should try and test the other grinder and see if you can taste the difference before shelling out the $$ but the reality is that I did exactly the same thing when I jumped from the Rocky to the Macap.
    I did so because I believed there would be a difference (and there was!).

    So, if you have the $$ and you believe it will make a difference, then perhaps you can jump right in.

    Have you considered other models or are you set on the Anfim Best?

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    I know nothing about the Bregant. *Only info I could find is that it has a 100W motor, plastic body, stepped and 50mm burrs (Im guessing flat). *Pricewise it sits between the Sunbeam EM0480 and the European made Lux burr grinders. *Dont know if burr carriers are metal or plastic, most likely the later.

    Assuming it performs similarly to the above grinders, then you most likely will get a better result with a better grinder.

    Note all the info above is based purely on speculation and educated guesswork.

    I have an Anfim Best Doser which Im happy with, but performance wise I dont think its better than my K3 Elite which is also stepless.

    The K3T are great value from Talk Coffee at the moment, unless you want a doser in which case I can safely recommend the Elite. *I am happy to admit I bought my Anfim cause its nice and shiny and matches my Giotto.

    I just noticed you have a 6910. When I went from a EM0480 to a K3 Elite, I noticed a very significant taste improvement from my 6910.

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    Thanks guys,

    Quote Originally Posted by 080903100E0B11620 link=1273716704/6#6 date=1273807441
    I know nothing about the Bregant.Only info I could find is that it has a 100W motor, plastic body, stepped and 50mm burrs (Im guessing flat).Pricewise it sits between the Sunbeam EM0480 and the European made Lux burr grinders.Dont know if burr carriers are metal or plastic, most likely the later.
    It actually has metal carriers quite similar to the rocky.

    Quote Originally Posted by 040316000D1B3D535B5B5B620 link=1273716704/5#5 date=1273806746
    Have you considered other models or are you set on the Anfim Best?
    I have considered other models but space is limited. So its either the Anfim best or the Mazzer mini manual which i think has a small footprint as well.

    Plus i have about NZ$400-600 to spend for the right grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 040316000D1B3D535B5B5B620 link=1273716704/5#5 date=1273806746
    I have considered other models but space is limited. So its either the Anfim best or the Mazzer mini manual which i think has a small footprint as well.

    Plus i have about NZ$400-600 to spend for the right grinder.
    Are you looking to buy new? Id imagine both of these grinders would be out of your budget. Do you want to stick with a doser?

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    No i am looking at buying second hand. Also i dont mind doser or doserless.

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    maybe do a site or google search for ECA Best instead of ANFIM as I think thats how it is also sold in Oz?

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    I have an Anfim Best Doser and it certainly does have a nice small footprint and I like the size of the hopper. I also have a K3 Elite (doser model) which is considerably larger and taller.

    The last K3 Touch have the short hopper and without the doser they would not take up as much space. In Australia they are $600 new which I think is a great price for a quality grinder.

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3A3B31223C3923500 link=1273716704/11#11 date=1273812751
    I have an Anfim Best Doser
    You have lots of things Caffeine Junky! ;D Do you realise how long your sig is! I had a laugh
    ECM Giotto Premium + Anfim Best Doser Chrome | Nuova Simonelli Oscar + Compak K3 Elite | Sunbeam EM6910/0480 | Zassenhaus Mill + Aeropress | Bogav and Rattleware Tampers
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    Re: should i upgrade?

    Im also considering upgrading my grinder.
    I have recently upgraded my machine from the 6910 to a VBM super lever, but havent changed grinders yet.
    Ive currently got a sunbeam 0480 and am thinking of Mazzer Mini et-al.

    All advice Ive read indicates that I should use a comparable grinder to the machine but truth to tell, the budget is pretty much gone - at least until I manage to sell the replacement 6910.
    Its even more tricky as Mrs Tob isnt a coffee drinker - so shes sort of rolling her eyes whenever she sees me researching grinders.

    Is the difference really that noticeable? It would be a lot easier to make the jump if it was first hand knowledge - so Im wondering if anyone knows of a sponsor which has a demo grinder or hire service.
    Id really like the ability to do a side by side comparison of grinders using my machine.
    I need to be able to say to Mrs Tob "Yes there IS a difference" rather than "they say theres a difference".



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    Re: should i upgrade?

    what about doing *it in reverse ??

    taking your grinder to a site sponsor who has demo machines.......

    you then may be could try a 0480 - mini - super jolly - ??? on a VBM or similar and see if you can tell the diff.

    I reckon you will really notice the consistency / pour differance of a better grinder and maybe some taste as well.

    you might need to buy a kg of beans to give them a good try, but thats cheap testing i reckon

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    I recently upgraded from a 6910 to a VBM Domobar Jr. For the first 3 weeks I used my em0480. To be honest with you, I was pleasantly surprised that I could get VERY decent coffee from the em0480. I was always going to upgrade my grinder, I just wanted to see how it went with the 0480.

    When I bought the Mazzer Mini, the difference was AMAZING, especially on the very first day. There were all these flavours bursting out of the cup that I hadnt had before. So it was well worth it.

    HOWEVER, you have to remember you dont miss what you never had. Conversely once your tastebuds become accustomed to the better grinder, the coffee doesnt seem that special anymore, until you make a shot again for old times sake with the 0480 and the coffee feels like its lacking something.

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by 37303B3B302121550 link=1273716704/15#15 date=1273907929
    HOWEVER, you have to remember you dont miss what you never had. Conversely once your tastebuds become accustomed to the better grinder, the coffee doesnt seem that special anymore, until you make a shot again for old times sake with the 0480 and the coffee feels like its lacking something.
    Spot on Bennett, good observation. ;)

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    Thanks for the replies.
    I had a shocker with coffee success yesterday, so I guess I should get my bum in gear and offload the 6910, buy the Mrs some flowers and then go shopping.

    Ive been told "you dont miss what you dont know" before when discussing grinders in a shop .. so thats been in the back of my mind.
    Thinking to myself, "I guess I can live without one". But yesterday was awful. I didnt make a decent cup all day.
    cheers.

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    Not only are the coffees from better grinders move flavourful, the consistency is vastly improved.

    I went from a fully tweaked Rocky to a Macap M4D and was easily able to notice a siginificant improvement.

    Sorry :(

    Greg

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    Re: should i upgrade?

    I agree with the sentiment "you dont miss what you dont know". When I was using my Imat Combi with the built-in grinder I thought I was getting great shots. I then upgraded to the K3, still with the combi, and like Greg, noticed a huge difference in flavour and depth. Im certainly a convert of the idea of buy the best grinder you can afford.



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