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    Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    MWHAaaaaaaa

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1163932885/5#5

    C Dealer and others will know that I have been waiting for a loooooog time for one of these to match my DCM..

    Have been trying to obtain one from the Au people and even from OS; as few seemed to know / have much, to do with it...

    Mr /Mrs / Ms dibartoli *do you need any one taken out side for a long walk... Do the dishes need doing.... What about mowing ya footpath *;) *Does the office need a 24 port 100meg *Cisco Catalyst® 2900 Series XL ATM Switch *or a Laser cartridges C7115a... *What about sweep in the footpath ... *Cleaning ya windows *;)

    What a way to start the weekend...

    A *"Must have matching Machine and grinder" M

    54mm basket and 54mm burrs ... I am in heaven 8-)

    (Just dont try to buy Tamps and group seals or other stuff - special order)

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Ha ha AM, the bug bites again! I had a laugh what are they worth....in dollars, not blood ;D

    PS, ill take an old CISCO router off ya hand if ya have one with IOS ::)

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    Only 4kg too AM. Is that right? You could fly down on a cheapie flight and bring it back with ya. :)

    Would be interesting to get a review on it. Its the first time Ive heard of ceramic burrs being used. Interesting.

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Theres been some feisty discussion about this model before already - Id be very keen to hear from an Aussie owner about their experiences.

    I like the idea of pre-set grinds...one for the Presso, one for the Bellman, and one for my dream machine! Muahaha! :D

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 43476178787D62757A140 link=1274427912/1#1 date=1274430136
    Ha ha AM, the bug bites again! I had a laugh what are they worth....in dollars, not blood ;D

    PS, ill take an old CISCO router off ya hand if ya have one with IOS ::)
    $680 if memory serves me correct - the Di Bartoli Coffee Centre web pages say/tel it all..


    I tossed one away the other day... Needed something to kil a toad.. Have a look at it and other crap, next time ya around..
    Quote Originally Posted by 587577717C7D79140 link=1274427912/2#2 date=1274430261
    Only 4kg too AM. *Is that right? *You could fly down on a cheapie flight and bring it back with ya. :)

    Would be interesting to get a review on it. *Its the first time Ive heard of ceramic burrs being used. *Interesting.
    Some how the $$$ dont add up *:( *Need a bloody big discount to do that...

    What a E61 Shuttle and Mahlkonig Vario Grinder dust off *;D

    Quote Originally Posted by 7E60787563607B7A140 link=1274427912/3#3 date=1274434167
    Theres been some feisty discussion about this model before already - Id be very keen to hear from an Aussie owner about their experiences.

    I like the idea of pre-set grinds...one for the Presso, one for the Bellman, and one for my dream machine! *Muahaha! :D
    Would love to help ya out... But do not own one YET *::) ::) ::)

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Certainly have some features packed in, would love a test drive too 8-)

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Home Barista has a few user reviews on the Vario Grinder
    http://www.home-barista.com/grinders/baratza-vario-up-close-real-close-t10882.html

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    I did an independent review of 4 grinders one of which was the Vario for a UK retailer who was already selling the Vario. My experiences are not quite the same as most others

    You can read it here:

    http://www.bellabarista.co.uk/pdf/compact-grinder-1-closerlook.pdf

    Perhaps gives another perspective, be it wrong or right,

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 5A5F485B5D3E0 link=1274427912/7#7 date=1274525294
    I did an independent review of 4 grinders one of which was the Vario for a UK retailer who was already selling the Vario. My experiences are not quite the same as most others

    You can read it here:

    http://www.bellabarista.co.uk/pdf/compact-grinder-1-closerlook.pdf

    Perhaps gives another perspective, be it wrong or right,
    Just read the review in full

    Excellent job Davec

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 183C353536360C183C203E3C530 link=1274427912/8#8 date=1274526908
    Quote Originally Posted by 5A5F485B5D3E0 link=1274427912/7#7 date=1274525294
    I did an independent review of 4 grinders one of which was the Vario for a UK retailer who was already selling the Vario. My experiences are not quite the same as most others

    You can read it here:

    http://www.bellabarista.co.uk/pdf/compact-grinder-1-closerlook.pdf

    Perhaps gives another perspective, be it wrong or right,
    Just read the review in full

    Excellent job Davec

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    Yea read it and still interested in it for home and for many of teh reasons mentioned... Will my pallet know the diff... NA...

    Also a great review on teh DCM from the same place...

    In fact; I like the review format and delivery ;D :D

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Oh just a thought.....recently a few reports about the toothed belt breaking if a stone gets between the burrs or they jam. Strips the belt and nylon cogs within the grinder. OK in itself probably not so much of a problem, but a PITA to replace. However the belt and cogs "might" be an area subject to wear and deterioration unlike standard grinder designs.

    Also, have a look at the link below....read/look very carefully

    http://www.dittingswiss.ch/en_category/Domestic.html

    Image on the right should be quite familiar to Vario owners.

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 484D5A494F2C0 link=1274427912/10#10 date=1274539944
    Oh just a thought.....recently a few reports about the toothed belt breaking if a stone gets between the burrs or they jam. Strips the belt and nylon cogs within the grinder. OK in itself probably not so much of a problem, but a PITA to replace. However the belt and cogs "might" be an area subject to wear and deterioration unlike standard grinder designs.

    Also, have a look at the link below....read/look very carefully

    http://www.dittingswiss.ch/en_category/Domestic.html

    Image on the right should be quite familiar to Vario owners.
    EK6 or EK 7 ?

    Interesting as to belt and stone issue..

    Must admit; would rather have a belt break or slip (assuming parts can be obtained / fitted) than have burrs dammaged and or the excessive preasure cause casings etc to buckle or warp..

    Then again... Why would there be any foreign matter in the beans any way :o ::) :-X

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    I took the plunge and ordered one of these from Ofra at Di Bartoli - it arrived on Tuesday.

    This is my first electric grinder so I dont have anything to compare it to - I just know that its a hell of a lot faster than my Hario grinder!

    Im also using a Presso...

    Impressions?

    Its very light, and very quiet. *Its not too tall, and is easy to move around.

    It has the coolest start up sequence - the LCD digits activate one by one, then all the blue lights on the buttons one by one. *8-)

    Sounds the same as a dishwasher or washing machine when the pump is running dry after pumping out all the water...but quieter. :)

    Seems to take about 12 seconds to grind two spoons of beans - so pretty fast too! *;)

    I started with the finest grind on the right setting, and the coarsest grind on the left setting. *Result? *Powder...Presso choked. :o

    Gentle easing off hasnt changed the result...so tomorrow Im throwing caution to the wind and backing the grind right off. *

    Even at the filter setting the grind is much finer than I expected. *:-?

    Im finding that I get a short stream of dark liquid on the first press, which quickly stops. *The second press is much better, a longer stream that steadily lightens - the pour even has a hint of the Guiness effect.

    Stay tuned!

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Vs Eureka Mignon (choice)

    Ok...

    Need to sit back and make a hard choice..

    1: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder


    OR


    2: Eureka Mignon


    A: Limited space ( width and hight)
    B: Needs to match my DCM
    C: Quite... Like a little mouse of a morning
    D: Pleasing to the eye :o
    E: Availability of parts / Service in QLD

    Further more... What I get from this http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1274782016 is what I will have to play with...

    Now the review says a number of things and plenty I like as to the Vario... But the Mignon has some big pluses going for it..


    Any users / owners of said units care to comment ?

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    AM

    Have a look at this Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_DTGHBVHjg

    Gives you a good idea of size & sound of Eureka v Mahlkonig. *I reckon my Vario is quieter than the one in the video though.

    Cheers

    Sniff *:)

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 4D534B4650534849270 link=1274427912/14#14 date=1274963473
    AM

    Have a look at this Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_DTGHBVHjg

    Gives you a good idea of size & sound of Eureka v Mahlkonig. *I reckon my Vario is quieter than the one in the video though.

    Cheers

    Sniff *:)
    Yea... But considering the way most places go over the top with temp and pressure... One would think that a simple db meter would settle the arguments..

    Opps.. db measurement can be tricky for lots of reasons... But still.. two units side by side ... Run and measure.. The background should be sort of consistent and thus so long as measured at the same distance... All would be good.

    So is it worth the extra 100 plus over the other unit ?

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Well...... *:-/

    I dont know. *This morning I ground two spoonfuls of beans at the coarsest setting and the grounds were still very very fine. *

    I hardly tamped at all, and didnt press at full steam, and the pour from the first press still stopped after about 5 seconds. *The second press pour was much longer, and went well, but my impression is that even at its coarsest setting the grinder is producing a fair amount of dust which is clogging the Presso. *

    My Hario doesnt produce near as much dust...is this a fairly standard thing with electric burr grinders?

    To contrast the pour I put through some pre-ground filter coffee from PNG that was given as a freebie to my wife at work, and of course the grind seemed huge by comparison, and positively flooded through the Presso.

    Ive read on the net that the Vario seems to vary a great deal in its factory calibration, with some coming out wit the burrs set very fine (like mine) and others coming out very coarse. *Ive seen a way to adjust the grind (apparently theres a hex nut under the spout) but am reluctant to start tinkering given the grinder is only a couple of days old.

    The Eureka is smaller, and probably quieter (judging by the video). *Its also got a more conventional method of grind adjustment. *It also comes in black which would match your DCM very nicely... ::). *And its at least $180 cheaper...

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 435D45485E5D4647290 link=1274427912/16#16 date=1275001371
    The Eureka is smaller, and probably quieter (judging by the video). *Its also got a more conventional method of grind adjustment. *It also comes in black which would match your DCM very nicely... . *And its at least $180 cheaper...
    Some good info and I guess for the home coffee/s that I do in a day or weekend....

    One must consider Functionality OVER bling/looks..

    Now say that to ya partner and see what happens... ;D

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    I got a Eureka a couple of weeks ago and am on a steep learning curve with both my machine & grinder. The coffee is getting better, I think I just need more knowledge & practice.

    It is by far the most expensive grinder I have owned so as far as comparisons I cant give you one. I paid $550 and I am sure you could probably find it cheaper but your other grinder will cover it. As all the reviews state its very easy to clean and there is plenty of adjustment. There is no reference point to track the knob against and I guess if you are going to switch to a plunger grind you may need a few turns of the knob so will have to keep count of that so you can get back. Its a solid heavy little sucker too. If you get one, be aware that there are two hopper sizes, I would go for the small one.

    My biggest issue I am having with it is the clumping/static which I am hoping is due to my inexperience and hopefully a too fine a grind. There is what I am calling a diverter plate in the spout which seems to restric it to half its width, I was thinking this was making the clumping issue worse so removed it. Its made it a lilttle better but not a lot so I plan on puttin git back on the weekend. I have read similar comments on the clumping/static so plan to mess about a lot this weekend.

    My goal is to get it to where I can grind direct to the portafiller without too much mess, the wife is not keen on the grinds all over the place.

    Not sure there is much to help your decision in there :) good luck making the choice.

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 5952405C5D4A46415C73545E525A5F1D505C330 link=1274427912/18#18 date=1275007017
    My goal is to get it to where I can grind direct to the portafiller without too much mess, the wife is not keen on the grinds all over the place.
    Oh... Dont tell me that.. "

    My wife will forgive me lots; But coffee mess in her kitchen is like me setting up a party in no mans land... "Some body gunna get hurt real bad...

    1: Doser that means some close management when only doing one or two shots at most...

    OR

    2: Doserless that sprays - thought that was only cats and spaded men.


    Decisions ....... *decisions....

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 6D667468697E72756847606A666E6B296468070 link=1274427912/18#18 date=1275007017
    I got a Eureka a couple of weeks ago and am on a steep learning curve with both my machine & grinder. The coffee is getting better, I think I just need more knowledge & practice.
    Quote Originally Posted by 6D667468697E72756847606A666E6B296468070 link=1274427912/18#18 date=1275007017
    My goal is to get it to where I can grind direct to the portafiller without too much mess, the wife is not keen on the grinds all over the place.
    He is talking about the Eureka grinder AM
    You may still keep your head from the wifes knife :D

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    I have to say the Vario is very good at not spraying grounds everywhere. *

    My Presso portafilter is a little small for the PF holder and at the holders highest setting fits in but doesnt sit flat, and easily gets upset, but if you hold it there its fine. *

    And the nifty thing is that any grounds that do fall out of the PF (rather than getting sprayed out) can easily be retrieved as the whole PF holder thing pulls out and then you can just tip out the grounds from the bottom of it.

    One thing that put me off the mignon was the demo video on the espresso italia website:

    http://www.espressoitalia.com.au/showProduct/MACHINES/36+Grinders/EUREKA+MIGNON+ELECTRONIC/Eureka+Mignon+Electronic+Coffee+Grinder

    If it was falling out of an E61 PF then it was definitely going to fall out of my Presso PF! :D

    Sniff


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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    The Mignon is only as messy as its user :) Gianni (the guy in the video) must have been a bit nervous during the video shoot, or he had a few espressos too many ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by 5D435B5640435859370 link=1274427912/21#21 date=1275017384
    I have to say the Vario is very good at not spraying grounds everywhere. *

    My Presso portafilter is a little small for the PF holder and at the holders highest setting fits in but doesnt sit flat, and easily gets upset, but if you hold it there its fine. *

    And the nifty thing is that any grounds that do fall out of the PF (rather than getting sprayed out) can easily be retrieved as the whole PF holder thing pulls out and then you can just tip out the grounds from the bottom of it.

    One thing that put me off the mignon was the demo video on the espresso italia website:

    http://www.espressoitalia.com.au/showProduct/MACHINES/36+Grinders/EUREKA+MIGNON+ELECTRONIC/Eureka+Mignon+Electronic+Coffee+Grinder

    If it was falling out of an E61 PF then it was definitely going to fall out of my Presso PF! :D

    Sniff

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 003635372036362A072A27450 link=1274427912/22#22 date=1275017903
    The Mignon is only as messy as its user
    :) I think that is likely the case with me

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 6E70686573706B6A040 link=1274427912/21#21 date=1275017384
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    Id go the Vario over the Mignon, just from what ive seen, and other ppls reports..... i think the Mignon looks a little cheap, and there could be a mess prob there too AM, IMO



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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Ive never tried the Vario myself, so I cant really comment on its quality. I guess what it comes down to is personal taste. I like the square form of the Mignon myself, and if the coffee that it grinds tastes better, thats a no-brainer for me. After all, its the end result that counts for a good cuppa :)

    Quote Originally Posted by 0C082E3737322D3A355B0 link=1274427912/24#24 date=1275024795
    Quote Originally Posted by 6E70686573706B6A040 link=1274427912/21#21 date=1275017384
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    Id go the Vario over the Mignon, just from what ive seen, and other ppls reports..... i think the Mignon looks a little cheap, and there could be a mess prob there too AM, IMO


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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    I can shed some light for you guys as i have owned the Vario for around 8 months...
    Quote Originally Posted by 6E6B7C6F690A0 link=1274427912/10#10 date=1274539944
    .recently a few reports about the toothed belt breaking if a stone gets between the burrs or they jam. Strips the belt and nylon cogs within the grinder
    In my time owning the Vario i had 1 stone :( It lodged its self between the burrs and stopped it instantly. It made a terrible noise and was easy to remove(3 screews from memory?). Damage was minimal considering the ceramic burrs but despite visual damage it made no difference to grind quality.
    Quote Originally Posted by 4B646D6F78476B646B6D6F676F647E0A0 link=1274427912/19#19 date=1275009831
    JasonY wrote on Today at 10:36:
    My goal is to get it to where I can grind direct to the portafiller without too much mess, the wife is not keen on the grinds all over the place.


    Oh... Dont tell me that.. "
    Ddont let this worry you :) i always used the portafilter holder and ground directly. Almost 0 wastage once calibrated for you baskets AM. There is very little clumping and maybe no static but because you can adjust the hight of the PF holder i had it so it only fell 2 1/2 cm to the basket. I get more wastage from the Mini Mazzer by far. Vario wins that 10-1

    Noise wise the Mazzer Mini is louder.
    Speed wise the Vario is much faster.
    Appearance wise the Vario doesnt look as expensive as it really is but its not a clunky plastic unit and the build quality it very nice.
    Size wise the Vario is small...not EM480 small but small compared to a Mazzer Mini. I would take the Vario on vacations(and have) As aposed to the MM which i would not.
    Adjustability is great on the Vario. When i first pulled it from the box i was a bit overwelmed by all the lights and buttons but i managed to do the man thing and not read the instructions for programing. 2 x 6.3sec for my double basket. One thing i didnt like about it is that it wont store your settings when powered off :( for me this sucked a bit as i get multiple blackouts per year. No big deal though as its only the timer u need to re program. The grind remains the same. Which brings me to the adjustables.... "Micro" on the left and "Full" on the right. The "full" remained 2 full clicks down 95% of the time while the "Micro" was used from top to bottom. Most blend, roast or SO problems were quickly fixed with a few clicks of the "Micro".

    Teamed with the DC it was a perfect match. After swapping to the MM recently i have had more wastage, longer prep times and less bench space. I love being in the drivers seat with the MM but i have more shot variences without the programable grind on demand.

    AM.. the Vario matches the DC very well but if your the type that likes the shiny things(big IF) you may find yourself wishing it was bigger or...shinier?

    Otherwise...pull the triger and buy one!
    Try ABC again... i hear they have an EX demo unit ;)

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 0E3729271D05420 link=1274427912/26#26 date=1275029326

    AM.. the Vario matches the DC very well but if your the type that likes the shiny things(big IF) you may find yourself wishing it was bigger or...shinier?

    Otherwise...pull the triger and buy one!
    Try ABC again... i hear they have an EX demo unit *;)
    The $$$ says E the look and stuff says V

    What more is there to causing; procrastination *;D

    If I liked bling, the MaCap would be staying...

    But now that you have told every other CSér about a possible demo unit *:( ;D ;D ;D

    Who knows... *

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 1C253B350F17500 link=1274427912/28#28 date=1275029945
    [s]Well i know of 2 units recently arriving home the Aus Bev Corp. Low usage, good condition.

    Shoot them an email and smash them on price.

    Id be looking for $400 including delivery??
    [/s]

    Give it a try? :)

    Ive never used the K3 or a Macap but i can see the quality difference in the cup between the Vario and the Mazzer.
    Vario wins!

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    I have to say, Im not a fan of the 4-way review. Essentially it uses a grinder I dont rate highly (the Mini-E) for comparison, and is set to make other grinders conform. The vario might benefit from a totally different dose/tamp/grind size/pour time to the mini-e to extract the most out of the beans, and treats fines as a bad thing. Other niggles include marking something down for being plastic while admitting that plastic had been fine in another project where hed misjudged it. Ive also no idea why the poster cant get a decent shot out of a mini without reverting to the cut-off cup and stir routine, the i2 review is substantially different to the Aus. market one (just for reference, not a criticism of the reviewer). Additionally, using a coffee grinder for multiple beans/purposes requires dialling the bean in each time, and could require a dozen shots or more to really nail one great shot. It makes more sense to use a grinder with a particle distribution designed for french press/chemex for those brewing methods, and the conical version of the i1 wasnt covered but is a great little grinder.

    The Eureka grinders in the past have been full of ugly welds - this may be different with the Mignon, so Ive not got much to say about it. On the other hand, Im confident of the build quality of the Vario.

    AM - congrats on your purchase!

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 163B3A312B362B265F0 link=1274427912/29#29 date=1275140709
    AM - congrats on your purchase!
    Not completed and may not for a while yet...

    The MaCap 5 Grinder has to go and it will then fund the next purchase..

    At end of day... Need a spare and it will need to serve teh Dual Manual Lever I plan to obtain by hook or by crook..

    Would like to keep the MaCap 5 for that purpose... But the K3 T is doserless and thus it has to stay...

    End config may be

    Kitchen = DCM and Vario

    Deck = Manual Lever and K3 T (and all my roasting stuff)


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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Company offered a drop from approx $700 plus new - to Approx $600 plus..

    Not sure if postage was included..

    Interesting...


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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    AM, the Macap is withdrawn from sale..having second thoughts about the Vario?

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 726C74796F6C7776180 link=1274427912/32#32 date=1275379817
    AM, the Macap is withdrawn from sale..having second thoughts about the Vario?
    Or did the wife find out?????

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Always re assess and then re assess and ask WHY ?

    The 6th is just a few sleeps away..

    Maybe I can make a MaCap *Doser into a doserless.. *But do it with some style ?

    Another project..

    My K3 T *has a number of *great features and *can be clearly tracked as to Age and approx Kg of usage since new (about 3kg a month - home usage)... *As a Prise in the 10,000 comp every one knows its history *to an extent. *Would assume that Warranty would not transfer... *But hey; these units are all but rock solid except for the odd manufacturing extreme and USERS.. Have I had hardware issues = NO and before you say it.. User = NO ;D Thus I would be happy to state that warranty is a non event and any one who expected it does not know these units (in general).


    There are things about the MaCap; that I like, over the K3...

    Step Vs Stepless.. * Chis said it, I am in agreement.. The steps and make up of the MaCap means this is realy not an issue... And for me; my pallet / skill sets are not that developed to require fine micro adjustments.. *Forget multi grips, I use at a min - 24" *Stilsons *;)


    So lets see what transpires post the 6th.. One of the two Grinders has to go....


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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    I just got my Vario from Di Bartoli. I am upgrading from a Challenger. Comparatively the Vario is smaller, faster, quieter and so much cleaner. I also like the hands free dosing. Adjustment is a little weird. The grinder needs to be running while you change the grind. There is plenty of room to fine tune the grind. There is little if any clumping.

    The cool blue lights are a bonus. Build quality appears and feels high.

    My first shot after eating a cow was great (for me). I think I have the perfect space-limited setup now. My upgraditis is cured!

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by 130402141317043E030E18610 link=1274427912/35#35 date=1276177898
    I just got my Vario from Di Bartoli. I am upgrading from a Challenger. Comparatively the Vario is smaller, faster, quieter and so much cleaner. I also like the hands free dosing. Adjustment is a little weird. The grinder needs to be running while you change the grind. There is plenty of room to fine tune the grind. There is little if any clumping.

    The cool blue lights are a bonus. Build quality appears and feels high.
    I refuse to be drawn into any comments... BAST#@#D ;D

    The K3 T has been snapped up and teh MaCap M5 is now on teh bench... Wife is still not happy...

    The K6 Silent ? IS big and quite, while teh doser is smooth... But space is not fee..

    Thus the Vario is forever looking better... ;)

    Just got to keep fingers crossed...

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    Re: Mahlkonig Vario Grinder

    One thing i didnt like about it is that it wont store your settings when powered off for me this sucked a bit as i get multiple blackouts per year.
    not any more. at least the usa versions, as of first half of 2010, the circuit boards were upgraded to non-volatile memory... so your timing settings are remembered after power outages or unpluggings. further, if you had an earlier one, like mine, they would send you a whole new front face, with the new circuit board, for $20USD. i used to suffer from wife-induced power outages... she would unplug my vario to use the outlet for other things. it was giving me the irrits. now, it s "no worries" :)

    -peter



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