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    Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

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    Hi All,

    My local barista swears she can get better results using her manual old-fashioned grinder versus most of the consumer-grade electrical grinders on the market.

    Im just wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar experience and swears by their manual grinder?

    If so, do you know brand/model/style/age etc off the top of your head?

    cheers

    Matt.

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    Re: Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3C2239303F3F3E3F510 link=1278372188/0#0 date=1278372188
    Hi All,

    My local barista swears she can get better results using her manual old-fashioned grinder versus most of the consumer-grade electrical grinders on the market.

    Im just wondering if anyone on the forum has a similar experience and swears by their manual grinder?

    If so, do you know brand/model/style/age etc off the top of your head?

    cheers

    Matt.
    I have 7 of them
    I dont use all but my favourite ones are the PE DE Dienes & the Zassenhaus

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1272689091

    KK

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    Re: Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

    it looks like you can get them ridiculously cheap from ebay germany

    http://shop.ebay.de/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=pe+de+dienes

    http://shop.ebay.de/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=Zassenhaus+

    Im just curious however if anyone actually uses one day-to-day ?

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    Re: Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

    They can easily be used on a daily basis

    It does take approx 70 turns of the handle to grind a double shot

    Thats the reason I dont use them often, plus I have 2 electric grinders that dont want to be neglected ;)

    KK

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    Re: Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2638232A252524254B0 link=1278372188/0#0 date=1278372188
    My local barista swears she can get better results using her manual old-fashioned grinder versus most of the consumer-grade electrical grinders on the market.
    Sounds like rubbish to me. *::)

    Any idea what make/model this super grinder is?

    Ask her to prove it.
    You can be the judge.

    P.S. Make sure everything stays the same except the grinder.
    i.e. Same beans, same espresso machine, etc.

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    Re: Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4D5348414E4E4F4E200 link=1278372188/0#0 date=1278372188
    My local barista swears she can get better results using her manual old-fashioned grinder versus most of the consumer-grade electrical grinders on the market.
    To be fair, most consumer-grade electrical grinders are junk when it comes to espresso. Even the Rocky would be challenged to match the grind from a quality hand grinder when it comes to adjustability. On the other hand, there are a lot of hand grinders which lack top-burr stability for espresso grinding.

    Any given hand grinder, on any given day.....

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    Re: Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3A243F3639393839570 link=1278372188/0#0 date=1278372188
    My local barista swears she can get better results using her manual old-fashioned grinder versus most of the consumer-grade electrical grinders on the market.
    What is meant by "consumer-grade"?

    If it is the $30 blade [s]grinder[/s] burners then yes.
    If it is a $500 Rocky then no.

    Same with the "manual old-fashion". Is this a Zassenhaus or some cheapy found at the 200cent shop?

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    Re: Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

    If you take the quote as consumer grade as it was most likely meant as Sunbeam, Breville Delonghi etc then yes a good hand grinder will beat them for grind consistancy and flavour. If it was meant Rocky K3 (not really consumer) *or in that area then its time for some blind tastings but some of the modern Hand grinders will give them a run and match or beat them too.

    As to hand grinders and espresso not all of them are or were up to it or were designed to do that job. Some of the Zassenhaus grinders are better than others at Espresso so dont buy one and assume it will be good for fine grinding.

    Better bet are the ceramic Hario or Kyocera hand grinders if your intended use is Espresso.

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    Re: Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

    Yeah, I used to swear by my manual Trespade grnder. Well, not so much sweat by it than At it.

    Machines were invented to take the drudgery out of repetiive human motion (outboard v rowing oars etc).


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    Re: Anyone use a manual burr-grinder coffee mill?

    I have a Kyocera, it works great but it is a pain to use. It requires a fair bit of work, to the point that at times my forearm starts to burn :o and if you are entertaining you spend half your night grinding.



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