I heard there are some hitting the country next month
I noticed on the Mazzer website, that they have produced a Super Jolly-E.
I have been pretty vocal in expressing my dislike of the mini-e as the timer is not much chop. The Super Jolly-E employs the same time regulation used in the electronic conical range and this does work superbly.
I reckon it would be a terrific home setup with a short hopper ;)
- 64mm burr set @1400 r.p.m. (50 Hz), 1600 r.p.m. (60 Hz). It uses the same burr set as the SJ doser, so will operate at the same speed.
- Stepless micrometrical grinding adjustment.
- On demand grinding.
- Electronic dose adjustment. Single and double dose with independent adjustment to 0.05 sec
- Digital display with shot counter.
- An aluminium hand tamper and a support for tamping are included.
- Available in single phase only.
- Hopper capacity 1.2kg. All mini hoppers will fit.
- Approx 14kg
I am unsure if its available here yet.
I heard there are some hitting the country next month
I do not need this grinder. Mantra to self. I do not need...
Ditto...Originally Posted by 343132272736213F362A530 link=1284891870/2#2 date=1285022822
Want is another matter ::)
I was thinking of getting a Mini E, but this looks pretty good instead. However, even though it is better, I am not sure how much more I am willing to pay. A couple of hundred yes, but more.... maybe not.
What does everyone think, and any idea of pricing?
:-? I would think thats pretty unlikely Dane given the price difference of quite a few hundy between doser mini and doser sj price. My instincts are few hundred more than a mini-e, so you may well be looking at $1.5k. We shall see...Originally Posted by 5E5B545F0F0E090B3A0 link=1284891870/4#4 date=1286354305
can you just by the doserless shoot for a super jolly?
i dont load enough beans for the timer to be usefull but i do like the funnel look :)
the SS also looks porn !!
I tried Babel Fish but I still cant work out what you mean Leeham..... :-?Originally Posted by 505C555858513D0 link=1284891870/6#6 date=1286360933
Try "Can you buy just the chute from a doserless Super Jolly?"Originally Posted by 6D40444845290 link=1284891870/7#7 date=1286371030
hey stop laughing at me.....
i was speeling chute with shoot and shute i new it was wrong but i could not think of the right spelling I had a laugh
anyway as normally i only load enough for a double the timer would not work well due to a few popcorning beans. I thought you would need to have the weight of more beans keeping the "time" consistant.
I guess you could just increase the time to compensate and it could just run a few seconds longer then you need.....
but i have a SJ and would like that chute option......
;D ;D ;DOriginally Posted by 1A263B202A2B3C29212A4E0 link=1284891870/8#8 date=1286379583
Any further news on this one - i.e. arrival date and cost? Cheers.
Has this unit arrived yet, if yes any ideas of prices?
Prices?? Anyone?? Prices?? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?.... Bueller?? :-?
Since theres been no further info about prices or dates I just thought id post a price for an imported SJ-E is around $1480 AUD plus obviously import tax + GST... (roughly ends up around $1700 by my calcs)
Im personally going doing this road, just thought id post it anyway. Id love to here some local prices though... Talk Coffee?
Gday swarve,Originally Posted by 747066757162070 link=1284891870/14#14 date=1291424511
Predicting landed prices is always a mugs game and until the importers have them in the warehouse and do the numbers, its anybodies guess...
Given the relative prices of SJ v Major V Major-E, Id guess thats about where it should be (but with local support)...
Well know actual prices early in the New Year....
Thanks for the response Chris.
I guess well be waiting until then for the price.
Hey Chris, was wondering if there was an update on this?
CSers will know as soon as I do Andreas ;)Originally Posted by 5D52584E595D4F5E3C0 link=1284891870/17#17 date=1294189693
Just to update.
These have now arrived and theyre a whole heap quicker than a mini-e. They also have the mini-e p/f rest 8-)
Ill have pricing later today. We wont be holding stock but can supply within a couple of days of order *;)
yo chrisOriginally Posted by 05303D3A0E123E37373434510 link=1284891870/19#19 date=1295912682
do you think the min-e p/f rest will fit on a major-e?
Looking forward to heaing a local price Chris.
Is the mini-e pf rest the one that sticks out and actually allows you to rest the handle and all while it is dosing ie. hands free* grinding magic...?
* If your handle fits
My apologies for the delay guys. RRP is $1347.50. Mini and super short hoppers fit this grinder :)Originally Posted by 686C7A696D7E1B0 link=1284891870/21#21 date=1296116324
Interesting! *This certainly looks like a great home grinder.
What are the issues mentioned with the mini-e timer system? Just not quite as accurate as the SJ?
The SJ and mini-e both have 64mm burrs spinning at the same speed - yet the SJ is about twice as fast to grind the same dose because it has a completely different burr design with more aggresive (faster) grinding.
I wonder which one results in better quality of grind?
All I can say is that I am very pleased I got my SJ from Chris a few years ago when the prices were hot. But for sure the e sounds like a nice bit of kit.
For anyone who can fit the SJ hopper I would recommend that rather than the mini...it just suits the SJ so well and looks great together.
Hi folks, (very) long time lurker, first time poster!
Im looking for a grinder to complement a second-hand Giotto Evoluzione I snapped up recently, and the SJ-e looks like a pretty interesting bit of gear.
Has anybody pulled the trigger on one of these yet, or else have any impressions on the timing compared to that on the Mazzer Mini?
And now I find THIS topic...
Didnt need it. I bought this very one with the short hopper from Chris yesterday and will have it early next week...
;D Adam,Originally Posted by 4A5F4D5F5A5F533E0 link=1284891870/26#26 date=1308298905
Hope you love it when it arrives and it would be terrific if you could post a review once it and you have bedded in.
For mine, I just cant see why youd bother with a mini-e when the SJ-e is so much better for little more.
My opinion is its this v M4D and then up to the conicals: Kony-e, M7D et al...
Got a quick question for SJ-E users - how many seconds of grind have you got to dose your double shot PF basket?
I seem to keep coming back to around the 12 seconds mark.
Which basket are you using? I am running mine for 15secs with VST 18g and get 21g in there
Im using the double shot basket supplied with the Giotto Rocket Evoluzione. Thanks for the hints - I am getting very close to the shot that I want.
What is this three letter acronym "VST"? Im not familiar with it, so Im not truly understanding what you are communicating.
Originally Posted by 55444C514452555719210 link=1284891870/30#30 date=1314752909
Its a manufacturer of espresso baskets.
Greg Pullman sells them, although there may be others
Hi can anyone tell me why a SJ-E is so much better than a Mini-E?
Id be REALLY pushing to fit a SJ-E in my space, so looking to the Mini-E; but it gets poor reviews - I cant work it out :S
Slower grind speed I understand....
But grind quality?
Doser timer accuracy?
If anyone can giv eme the height of the SJ-E with the shortest available hopper, id like to know
Grind quality is probably similar, but the timer is digital on the SJ-E and analogue on the Mini-E
Digital = you set the time using buttons and can be set in 0.05 sec increments
Analogue = timer is set by turning a screw driver - you cant specify an exact time
Well put SPs, if you want digital precision in a MM size look @ the M4D......that is of course if the styling of chrome.Originally Posted by 2A293C3A3038352938372D2A590 link=1284891870/33#33 date=1320730618
Thanks for the reply...Im guessing theres no way to shoehorn the SJs Electronic doser timer on to a mini-E..thatd be too easy.
It turns out the height of the SJ-E even with shortest hopper is still >60cm, so too tall for my cabinets. & Id like to have at least 100gm worth of hopper capacity.
I guess its a Mini-E for me then. :-/
Did you know you can get a smaller hopper for the SJ E, like I did.
The SJ-E is 510mm with a standard mini hopper. A super short hopper would lose a further 30-40mm.
Not sure about elsewhere in Australia, but they are almost impossible to find in Melbourne at present. We can get them, but there are not many.
Just got my SJ-E from Chris today.
Love it. We have a mini-e at work and SJ-E puts it to bed. Heaps quicker, at least double the speed & no mess. Its not much bigger than the mini really. Especially with the super short hopper.
Crikey I thought my hopper was short, that really is short!
Originally Posted by 477F766355786E170 link=1284891870/38#38 date=1320752666Tis a nice hopper to have!Originally Posted by 6376647673767A170 link=1284891870/39#39 date=1320753504
Java "Yes size does matter! ;D" phile
Hi, is it possible to modify my existing SJ to a d/less electronic?Originally Posted by 073B263D373621343C37530 link=1284891870/8#8 date=1286379583
Where do those VERY short hoppers come from. Cheers.
You can buy a kit to add on the dosing cone, in place of your doser - BUT it is very expensive.Originally Posted by 283B3B2E410 link=1284891870/42#42 date=1322094717
Im not sure if Mazzer have a retrofit solution for the timer, but you can use an external timer or if youre handy with electronics and 240V you can build in a timer on the grinder itself - its been done on someones Robur.
Any coffee machine specialist selling the Mazzer grinder will be able to get these short hoppers. I got a "medium" sized one that can take 1/2 kg of beans, but theres a "mini" sized one that takes less.Where do those VERY short hoppers come from.
You should also be able to find these hoppers on eBay, but of course, its better to build a relationship with a coffee specialist rather than a faceless nameless eBay seller. ;)
In Melbourne http://shop.talkcoffee.com.au/products/super-short-mazzer-hopper and in Sydney http://www.dibartoli.com.au/product/Mazzer_Mini_Short_Hopper amongst other places ;)Originally Posted by 263535204F0 link=1284891870/42#42 date=1322094717
anyone think the min-e/sj-e p/f rest will fit on a major-e?
the min-e/sj-e pf rest is the one that sticks out and actually allows you to rest the handle and all while it is dosing ie. hands free.
Well Ive had it nearly a year, and I have the following things to say about it.Originally Posted by 56636E695D416D64646767020 link=1284891870/27#27 date=1308299476
The coffee is so much better out of this than the Rocky I was using. I put the reason down to consistency of particle size. I like the fact that I no longer have a doser. Its fast enough and quiet enough too, for the money. Could spend more for faster quieter, but at the expense of room. As it is, spending this much for a domestic use is a luxury.
I soon found a problem, the motor wouldnt work any more. In short, it had clumped up and jammed. I had to pull the top apart and clean out all the grinds.
It was suggested to me that I remove the earth mesh at the exit chute, so I did this. Wow. MESS! Static sends the coffee everywhere! But at least it doesnt jam. I made my own earth mesh, less materialistic, out of some thin copper wire. It works, but since I have had this grinder I am not roasting as dark, trying to reduce the possibility of oily beans and as such, clumping. So I intend to put the earth mesh back in one day.
It doesnt need much movement at all to adjust the grind, this surprised me. The range of movement I use on most beans is very little.
I may need to pull apart again and apply a light grease to the thread, as it doesnt move a tiny bit, but needs a bit more pressure to get it to turn. Not too worried.
The only time I need to adjust the grind by a fair bit, is with some really dry Indian Robusta beans that I have. But you get the grind right for these beans (really powdery), and the coffee is surprisingly delicious. Yeah, a straight Robusta shot...
It is a pity I didnt know about the super short hopper when I bought it, I bought the short hopper option but then saw the photo (above) of the really short one. Im used to mine now so cant be bothered replacing, but certainly the super short one is a better domestic option.
The counter on the top of my unit currently indicates about 2300 doses, not bad going. I drink double shots at home, so thats still way over 1000 coffees in the time Ive had it. Even taking into account material costs of a cup of coffee, I think the grinder has paid for itself over buying from a cafe. And, certainly, definitely, the coffee I make at home is better than anything I buy around here.
Would I recommend this grinder?
Reviving an old thread. Like the look of the Super Jolly E with short hopper to side step from San Marco 95A. For those who weigh and single dose with this, what's retention like?
From vids I've seen of this in action I like: 1) Mazzer 2) the portafilter holder actually seems to hold the PF - hands free sounds useful 3) seems relatively mess free once you've got dose timing pretty right.
Tempted but my conscience (wife?) makes me think I should just get new burrs in the 95A and keep on grinding.
As you are weighing/single dosing, why pay for the Electronic dosing if you dont use it ?
Why bother with a hopper at all ?
There are many good grinders that would fit your needs