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    Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

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    Hi All,

    Ive read on this forum some people have two grinders - one for normal beans and the other for decaf beans.

    I have just the delonghi KG100, so far grinding only normal beans. But Ive just ordered some decaf beans and wondered if using the same grinder will pose much of an issue??

    Any experiences/opinions would be great.

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    I have one average at best grinder - it grinds fine enough for a decent espresso.... If you were in a commercial environment I would say yes, you probably would need two (or more) as time is important to you. However, why do we have 2 (or more) of nearly everything.....because we can. We have about the highest standard of living in the world and the material wealth to go with it.

    I suppose that as people get upgraditis and find themselves with 2 (or more) grinders then it would be handy to have the back up. If you are going to put Decaf and regular through or have a couple of SOs on the go at a time then it might be annoying to clean out your grinder so much. But to actually need a second grinder...I doubt it. Just need to clean it more often if you are particular or caffeine sensitive (which many probably are).

    Sorry, probably went off on a bit of a tangent about needs and wants. A friend of mine has two (Mazzer and Sunbeam) as a result of upgraditis - not decaf consumption, he only uses the Mazzer and has the sunbeam as a back up if the other is out of action (which hasnt happened yet).

    Others will be better able to answer your question.

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Thank you Mariner.

    Your comments definitely help. Im so almost tempted to get a better grinder for the excuse of having two for the different beans!!!! Yes Im already getting that upgraditis happening just reading this forum.

    I told my hubby its time for us to take some home barista courses to allow us to make full use of what we already have. Very excited!

    I might settle for a hand grinder though if a second one for decaf/or the other is recommended by people in general....

    or if i cant fall asleep tomorrow night after trying the wow decaf (cant wait!) when the beans arrive tomorrow, Ill know to gt the second grinder. ;D

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    "...Are two grinders necessary for different beans?..."

    Only if you think so. If you dont think so, then its not necessary* ;)

    You havent advised what kind of coffee machine you are using, nevertheless my only further comment* would be to advise you to get a better coffee grinder.

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5975667D7A7166140 link=1334559891/1#1 date=1334561343
    or have a couple of SOs on the go at a time then it might be annoying to clean out your grinder so much.
    Sorry Mariner, what are SOs?? pardon the ignorance, as Ive read this a couple of times already, but havent asked anyone and google didnt make any good suggestions on it...

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Quote Originally Posted by 6A5E495F44736F434A4A49492C0 link=1334559891/3#3 date=1334563522
    Only if you think so. If you dont think so, then its not necessary*

    You havent advised what kind of coffee machine you are using, nevertheless my only further comment* would be to advise you to get a better coffee grinder.
    Fresh_Coffee, excellent points.

    Yeh Ive a feeling I do need to upgrade the grinder eventually. Im only just using a Sunbeam cafe latte EM5600, very possibly not using it to its full potential.....
    Hence the need for home barista classes soon.

    However, for "convenience" sake, Ive just purchased the Aeropress this arvo. So Aeropress will be used more during weekdays I think, as Im not very fast and proficient at using the Sunbeam.

    Im assuming that the Breville Smart grinder will be better than the delonghi KG100? However, no such money at the moment for it, hence my consideration for a <$100 hand grinder if a second is required.

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Are two grinders necessary--No. (Do make sure your grinder is easily adjustable and the adjustments are repeatable as different beans will grind differently.)

    SO=Single Origin (rather than a blend).

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Thanks Greg!

    I think Im getting the drift - its not necessary to have two grinders, but maybe helpful to have two to make life easier.


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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Quote Originally Posted by 020E070704040D0400130F0413610 link=1334559891/2#2 date=1334562154
    I might settle for a hand grinder though if a second one for decaf/or the other is recommended by people in general....
    A nice hand grinder is a great idea. It has the added advantage of being portable too....

    Quote Originally Posted by 020E070704040D0400130F0413610 link=1334559891/2#2 date=1334562154
    Yes Im already getting that upgraditis happening just reading this forum.*
    I know the feeling - very dangerous isnt it.....

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Quote Originally Posted by 14382B30373C2B590 link=1334559891/8#8 date=1334571021
    I know the feeling - very dangerous isnt it.....
    Mariner - absolutely getting "the" feeling!!!! Was checking out a good tamper earlier today, as well as almost getting the Breville variable temp kettle, after having ordered all these coffee beans from beanbay. Also had a look at these >$3000 espresso machines at Danes - shiny shiny goodness!!! ;D

    However I think a better grinder is the most important upgrade when I spend next time on coffee equipment.

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Dont know if its been mentioned but decaf used for espresso typically needs to be ground finer than typical caffeineated coffees.

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2C373E3B3028686B6A5F0 link=1334559891/10#10 date=1334592788
    Dont know if its been mentioned but decaf used for espresso typically needs to be ground finer than typical caffeineated coffees.
    Hi shadow 745,

    Nope I didnt know about this precious bit of info you mentioned. So thank you!

    Does that apply to a finer grind for use in the Aeropress too??


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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Quote Originally Posted by 262A23232020292024372B2037450 link=1334559891/11#11 date=1334626472
    Quote Originally Posted by 2C373E3B3028686B6A5F0 link=1334559891/10#10 date=1334592788
    Dont know if its been mentioned but decaf used for espresso typically needs to be ground finer than typical caffeineated coffees.
    Hi shadow 745,

    Nope I didnt know about this precious bit of info you mentioned.* So thank you!*

    Does that apply to a finer grind for use in the Aeropress too??
    I would say yes. Most different beans need a slightly different grind, and they will always need fine tuning as the bean ages. While no, its not necessary to have two grinders, it does help a lot. What I would recommend is what I did, when you are ready to upgrade your current grinder. Just keep the old one for decaf. Then do what I plan to do: rotate that one down to french press. :P Or have two grinders for two different SO (I like that idea). Or a SO and a blend. :)

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Hi Coffeelearner! My experience with one grinder for different beans has been good. There is no any issue if you use same grinder for two different beans. Fresh_Coffee has said well that two grinders are necessary only if you think so :)

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Thank you Moffee Coff!

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Id just like to add that if youre using a stepless grinder, using it for different beans might be very painful. Id imagine if trying to use my K3T for two different beans I would have to waste at least one shot to get it dialled in for a different bean. And Im not a fan of this at all. :-/

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7B5E49565B073F0 link=1334559891/15#15 date=1335226574
    Id just like to add that if youre using a stepless grinder, using it for different beans might be very painful. Id imagine if trying to use my K3T for two different beans I would have to waste at least one shot to get it dialled in for a different bean. And Im not a fan of this at all. :-/
    yeh, I dont have such capable grinder yet, but am saving up for either the K3T or the Breville Smart grinder.* Ive just got the delonghi KG100.* Its ok so far, as Im not very discerning on my "palate".* But I can certainly, or so I think, tell from a good coffee to a bad one!

    I must say though, switching between espresso grind and that for aeropress is already catching me out the last couple of days!!!* Im seriously considering a Hario slim for aeropress duties.....* A coarse grind for espresso is just so not good!!!* waste on good coffee!

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7E5B4C535E023A0 link=1334559891/15#15 date=1335226574
    Id just like to add that if youre using a stepless grinder, using it for different beans might be very painful. Id imagine if trying to use my K3T for two different beans I would have to waste at least one shot to get it dialled in for a different bean. And Im not a fan of this at all.
    Yeh. This is particularly the case if one of the beans is a decaf...seems to big a bigger jump to the fine side. Going to try my Hario Skerton (which nornally resides at work) for the decaf when it is next ready to go. Dont have bench space for second benchtop grinder.

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    Re: Are two grinders necessary for different beans?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7E78647A7F607C7D130 link=1334559891/17#17 date=1335232045
    Yeh. This is particularly the case if one of the beans is a decaf...seems to big a bigger jump to the fine side. Going to try my Hario Skerton (which nornally resides at work) for the decaf when it is next ready to go. Dont have bench space for second benchtop grinder.
    I bought a second bend for my coffee equipment. :P We needed the extra space anyway, and had the room for it.

    When I was using m old sunbeeam 480, I found that the Andys decaf wow required a setting of 9, and the PNG Wahgi (I think) needed a 10 (on average). So its not a huge difference, but it is noticeable...



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