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    Do you leave your bean hopper full?

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    Hi guys, i havent had my Cadet grinder very long, but as it has a damaged hopper (which im still yet to fix) i only pour in enough beans as i need at the time.

    Recently though it has occured to me that it cant possible be grinding as consistently doing it this way as if the hopper was full with the weight of all the other beans forcing the beans on the bottom into the grinding burrs.

    When virtually empty the beans just seem to bounce around for a while at the end, and it sounds like they are falling in...then being flung out (impossible if the hopper was more full).

    Im thinking maybe id be better of putting more beans in (even with just a temporary lid) than using my current method.


    What do you guys do with yours? As-you-need-it? or Fill-er-up? hehe ;).


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    Re: Do you leave your bean hopper full?

    I only put in enough for my needs (double shot).
    That way they are always as fresh as possible.

    I have one of those trap doors (whatever its called) on my hopper that lets you remove the hopper with the beans still in it.
    I can measure by eye how many beans I need when its shut and then open it to let the beans fall into the grinder; I then shut it again to act as a lid over the beans so they dont have as much room to bounce around.
    With it open some beans do pop back up into the hopper as the grinding is taking place, so I know it helps to a small degree.

    I dont prepare multiple drinks very often but when I do I dont notice any difference when I have more beans in the hopper to when I dont.

    If you dont have the hopper door, I know some people place a lid or tamper over the beans as a cover or weight. *

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    Re: Do you leave your bean hopper full?

    You can unscrew the Cadet hopper off and and use your tamper to weigh down the beans

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    Re: Do you leave your bean hopper full?

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    I "grind on demand" through the doser with beans in the centre shoot of the hopper only......

    I add beans up to the top of the centre shoot to just level with the area where the hopper expands- just before grinding..... (normal double extraction)

    Grind on demand to fill the basket.... at the end of grinding there are still a few beans at the bottom of the shoot..... enough to stop the bouncing about at the burrs .....

    With the number (and frequency) of coffees I make :) - i figure they wont be there for long..... and the hopper has a lid and is smoky coloured plastic to reduce light degradation..

    If Im doing say 20 coffees in quick succession then I put what I guesstimate to be the quantity of beans required into the hopper.

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    Re: Do you leave your bean hopper full?

    Some people mod their hoppers by either cutting them down to a smaller size or using a small jar. Here are some links.

    http://www.toomuchcoffee.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=22978&sid =acde6c0508244ea08d05e96e673177c4
    http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/4494?LastView=1169095186&Page=1

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    Re: Do you leave your bean hopper full?

    Yeah, it seems everyone pretty much does it the way i do it now, though i may start adding a little bit extra to stop bean-bounce cos as JavaB said...its not going to be in there very long anyway. Plus i dont have a proper tamper yet to use as a weight on the beans...though thats a good idea to.

    What annoys me most about the cimbali is the flat chute that goes into the doser...to much ground coffee gets stuck there. They should have made it a sloping entry into the doser.

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    Re: Do you leave your bean hopper full?

    Hmmm, sounds a bit like the old To Stopper Ones Hopper To Retain Fresh Crema Dilemma . Hmmm, bean there, done that.

    My dilemma was that i liked the look of the hopper being at least half full all the time, but, as the hopper is hardly airtight, knew that my beans would stale quickly if stored in this way. My first solution was to use the cardboard insert that was in the hopper when purchased. Yeah, I know. Bit crazy, but, hey, I liked it. Its got a neat print of beans and gives the impression the hopper is full. I found I could leave the cardboard in there, and just add a handful of beans to grind on demand. Im not so crazy now, and just leave the hopper empty -- no cardboard thingy.
    I add beans on demand and then tip whats left over back into the sealed storage container. While my hopper can detach with the beans inside, i feel i risk squeezing the plastic too tightly one day and could break it. Anyway, my grinder is so easy to pick up that i just pick the whole unit up and tip it backwards, emptying the beans from the hopper. I dont find it spills grounds everywhere, as the only loose grounds are in the chute and they would be tipped back up the chute when I tip the grinder backwards. Anyway works for me. *;)

    I dont notice any probs with the last few beans not being weighed down -- they get eaten up easily enough. But if yours works better with more beans in the hopper, then i wonder if u can do what i do and fill the hopper with more than you need, and then empty it afterwards? Whichever method u use, i wouldnt leave them in the hopper, as ive found they go stale much quicker.
    Btw, i also purge the coffee grounds from my previous grinding session each time i start a new grinding session. Theres usually some stuck up in the chute somewhere. Sometimes i chuck it, sometimes i put it aside for use in the French Press as a back-up B-grade.

    Postscript: Just checked out Markys links (above) to hopper mods -- great stuff, especially the wooden ones!



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