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    Gone from EM0450 to EM0480

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hi

    I was happily using a EM0450, getting consistent grinds, got the the better of me, so I went and bought a EM0480 also. Just wanted to try another grinder and see if more $'s do mean better grinds etc. On the 480 even with a low number, ie 8 the grind is too coarse and when I the coffee tends to be too watery, ie not extracted properly. I was using 12 on the 450 and the grind was just fine for our liking, but even lower numbers on the 480 and it is coarser. Removed the collar, burr etc and put back in palce etc, to no avail.
    Just a couple questions.
    When placing the collar back onto the main body, and aligning the 2 arrows at the back and when you let go of the release button, should the collar be locked in place. It can move freely all the way around to the front. Whereas with the 450, when u lock in the collar on the mainbody and let go of the relaease, the collar is locked in. So is this my problem (the collar)?
    Then I align the lines on the upper burr and the inside collar, the upper burr is not flush with the inside collar (just a fraction above). Is this normal? Then when I move the collar around to the front the upper burr seems to go down a little and just below flush with the inside collar. This normal?
    Lastly when you move the collar back to the front witht he upper burr in, should you hold the Release button down until you get it all the way around to the front, or can you just move the collar around to the fron without holding the release button? Read the instructions, find them a bit confusing.

    Thanking you in advance.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by takiniteasy View Post
    Just wanted to try another grinder and see if more $'s do mean better grinds etc.
    Unfortunately I don't think you will see any improvement, as far as I know the differences between the two are only cosmetic

    Regarding putting it together, I got confused the first time but it was REALLY obvious, it was just roughly crushing the beans. I checked a youtube video of someone putting it together and worked it out. You might need to shim it to get it to a useable range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burr View Post
    Unfortunately I don't think you will see any improvement, as far as I know the differences between the two are only cosmetic

    Regarding putting it together, I got confused the first time but it was REALLY obvious, it was just roughly crushing the beans. I checked a youtube video of someone putting it together and worked it out. You might need to shim it to get it to a useable range.
    Thanks Burr, just dont understand why the 450 would be performing better than the 480 then.
    Can you assist/check yours witht eh questions I have above ?
    ........When placing the collar back onto the main body, and aligning the 2 arrows at the back and when you let go of the release button, should the collar be locked in place. It can move freely all the way around to the front. Whereas with the 450, when u lock in the collar on the mainbody and let go of the relaease, the collar is locked in. So is this my problem (the collar)?
    Then I align the lines on the upper burr and the inside collar, the upper burr is not flush with the inside collar (just a fraction above). Is this normal? Then when I move the collar around to the front the upper burr seems to go down a little and just below flush with the inside collar. This normal?
    Lastly when you move the collar back to the front with the upper burr in, should you hold the Release button down until you get it all the way around to the front, or can you just move the collar around to the front without holding the release button?

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    The 450 & 480 used to be the cheapest recommended grinders.
    Cheap can mean some variation in results.

    Also, you should never try to match grind setting numbers on two grinders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod View Post
    Also, you should never try to match grind setting numbers on two grinders.
    If these were made with a bit of precision you would be able to. It's sad.

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    Have a read over at http://coffeesnobs.com.au/brewing-eq...w-machine.html - the thread details my experience with the 450/480. It has pics and explanations that should help you. Once you have them working how you like, there is also another place to have a read of a more complete mod - Ray_C put together a pretty good thread on it at http://coffeesnobs.com.au/grinders/2...lems-good.html

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    Hi takiniteasy.
    Don't get too hung up on comparing numbers between two machines. Find the setting that works for you on the machine you want to keep and don't worry if it's a high or low number.

    My 480 grinds for espresso at 5 and has done so since I bought it.

    However, every now and then some leftover grinds build up inside the grinder and the grind starts to become coarser. I take it apart and clean it out and when I put it back together it's back at 5.
    Last edited by tristanp; 23rd October 2013 at 11:49 AM.

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    Mine 0450 grinds at 15 or 16 depending on the beans. Any finer, and I get chokers. Any lower, gushers. I am not sure whether to open my free 0480 or sell it to buy the 0700 - will wait for review on the latter first. My 0450 still doing fine for now (as last poster said, it does change slightly after a while, a good clean fixes it, but it hasn't changed much over time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tristanp View Post
    Hi takiniteasy.
    Don't get too hung up on comparing numbers between two machines. Find the setting that works for you on the machine you want to keep and don't worry if it's a high or low number.
    Should be consistent though. Ideally a grinder shouldn't just be for your particular espresso machine, it should be able to do everything from coarse french press, to slightly finer moka, to ultra fine turkish coffee. That being said, with these I think most of the range is useless. The true range is about 5-6 of your 16 settings, from fine to coarse, it's just about where that range within a range sits on your machine.

    I have a stove at work now so I'm going back to Moka from Aeropress. Moka is still my first choice for a long black.



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