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    Hi guy, recently purchased a min mazzer full electronic, struggling to get a proper grind setting. First question is how long should the double shot button grind for. Second question is With the mazzer there is a sticker with a arrow to the right for fine to left for coarse. I assuming this the 0 marker. how far left should I go. I am struggling to get a good shot . I recently upgraded from a rocky grinder never had probs. I feel I am strugling to get consistency

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    1. The duration of grinding depends on the amount you want to dose and the fineness of the grind. There is no single "correct" answer to this question.
    2. You turn the collar anticlockwise to make the grind finer.

    I'd suggest initially dosing by volume (overfill and level) and then just change the grind fineness until you get in the ball park of an acceptable shot.

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    I remember watching a Youtube video and vaguely remember they mentioned the sticker was placed at a position Mazzer QC checked to produce an espresso shot... however, it may not be suitable for you, nor it is the zero point...

    Best to find the zero point your self by turning the colar finer slowly till you hear the chirping sound of the burrs touching each other... I use a black board marker to mark where it is...
    after that, I just adjust it "10 minute" towards coarser and adjust grind size accordingly to get the correct pull time... I single dose for my shots, so I consistently use 18g of beans now, so all i need to worry about is the size of the grind.

    I dont have a timer version of the Mazzer so can't comment on what time setting it is for a double, but I would say the answer may be "it depends" :P

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    Hi there, I recently upgraded from a Rocky to a Mazzer Mini-e as well, and am loving the difference. The sticker that you mention is not the 'zero' point as it was with the Rocky...it's the setting at which the factory suggest that particular grinder should be set for espresso. Of course they acknowledge that you'll need to make adjustments for different beans and weather etc so you can move the setting to coarser or finer dependent on your needs.

    I am using an 18g VST basket and dose 19g into it (verified by micro-scale after dosing). So for the VST I fine that I need the grinder set a few 'notches' finer than the neutral setting on my grinder. To get the grinder to dose roughly 19g I think it's running for ~25sec (can't recall the exact amount).

    If you make the grind setting coarser, the same amount of time would dose more coffee as it takes less time to go through the looser burrs. If you tighten the grind up (making it finer) the same given time will produce a smaller dose.

    As both coarseness and dose greatly effect the extraction you should figure out what your dose needs to be, keep that consistent by weighing your dosed basket, and just play with your grind setting. Once you have that dialled in then you can set the electronic timer and get in the ball park each time. Of course you can still weigh the dose to ensure that you're close enough for your preferences.

    NB: Using this approach I do 'purge' a few seconds of grinds through the grinder manually before running the timed grind each morning or if the grinder has been unused for some time, to ensure that I'm dosing fresh coffee. A bit wasteful, but I prefer this approach to the alternative of only dosing how many beans I need into the hopper and sweeping/blowing/cursing every last grain out of the grinder for each coffee that I make. Horses for courses I guess.

    Hope that helps.

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    HAHA. I started writing my reply and stepped away for a bit before finishing it up...and got beat by these two responses.

    I forgot to add that I got the grinder and a new machine at the same time, plugged everything in and let it warm up etc, fresh beans and all that good stuff. First shot, at the setting recommended by Mazzer was actually pretty darn awesome. So for me I have only slightly had to venture outside the range of the area on the collar that is covered by the sticker.

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    I had a laugh... 3 quick answers coming in a row

    just to confuse the matter even more, bear in mind that having more beans in the hopper can produce a finer grind in the same setting compare to just single dosing it...

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    Just a couple of tips,

    1. Don't worry too much about the timer until you have honed in on the grind setting.
    Each time you change the coarseness the amount of coffee produced by the set time will change.

    2. The grind adjustment collar is very sensitive. Each segment marker on the collar is a big change to the coarseness.
    When you get close to the ballpark, it only needs to be moved at 1-2 mm increments to fine tune.

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    thank you everyone for the replies. back to the grinder - will experiment with these new methods. hopefully pull a good shot.

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    by the way a racilio Silva double basket, how many gram of coffee is ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WIREDUP View Post
    by the way a racilio Silva double basket, how many gram of coffee is ideal.
    My opinion? Precisely 0g. The best thing you can do with a Silvia double basket is to either bin it our use it as a souped up single.

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    I use a Robur E at work (4 of them ) and the way we set our grind and time is to firstly weigh out (the ground coffee) to manually dose to get the right grind size. Then we get the timing right on the timer. Always only set one at a time because otherwise you're playing with too many variables.

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    Talk_coffee what basket do you recommend ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WIREDUP View Post
    Talk_coffee what basket do you recommend ?
    The ones he sells, I'd wager :P

    (That said, they are really good; I can get noticeably better results, very consistently, with these as opposed to the stock Gaggia doubles, which are supposed to be ok)

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    I'm enjoying my VST baskets

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    Quote Originally Posted by okitoki View Post
    I'm enjoying my VST baskets
    I'm enjoying the $100 I got for the last 7 I sold. Meh- overhyped and underdelivered.

    Wiredup- just grab a good regular size (nominal 14g rather than the 12g Silvia basket) and take it from there.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by WIREDUP View Post
    by the way a racilio Silva double basket, how many gram of coffee is ideal.
    FYI.. there are several Rancilio double baskets, each very different in capacity and the way they work.
    Early silvias shipped with a 12 gm basket ( part # 40 100 010) that was not their best effort !
    Later Silvia's (post 2010), shipped with part # 40 100 102 is a much better quality 14gm basket that can actually take up to 16-17 gms depending on the bean/grind and group seal in use.
    There is also an 18gm nominal Rancilio basket # 40 100 090 that works well in the Silvia for even larger doses..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    I'm enjoying the $100 I got for the last 7 I sold. Meh- overhyped and underdelivered.

    Wiredup- just grab a good regular size (nominal 14g rather than the 12g Silvia basket) and take it from there.

    Cheers

    Chris
    probably true
    but I bought it based on people's feedback on this forum, plus other forums... and I had a better result compare to the stock standard basket I had before which I would say is worth the money I paid (based on my experience anyway )

    plus, its good to support a sponsor anyway

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    thanks again for the wealth of knowledge.



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