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    Small hopper - Suit Macap

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    Hiya Folks,

    Looking to slightly change up my approach to grinding on demand, and wanting a small hopper (similar to the mazzer supper short one) to suit my Macap MXA. Have had a look around, but couldn't find anything. Emailed the site sponsors a few weeks ago and received no replies... So seeking additional info now!

    Anyone using one? If so, which one, and what are your thoughts?

    Cheers!

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    Hello bbb,

    The only current OEM look option is to machine a sleeve to go on an M4/5 hopper to increase the diameter of the throat.

    I have had discussions with one of the importers regarding the production of a small wide throat hopper to suit the MXA and M7D. This would make both grinders more accessible to the prosumer market.

    Cheers

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    Thanks Chris, appreciate the reply.

    So the M4/M5 version has a slightly smaller throat - right?
    I have access to a CNC machine, so can easily get a small lightweight ally sleeve made up

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodyboardingbum View Post
    Thanks Chris, appreciate the reply.

    So the M4/M5 version has a slightly smaller throat - right?
    I have access to a CNC machine, so can easily get a small lightweight ally sleeve made up
    That's correct bbb. Just measure up carefully as you will find that the throat on the top burr assembly is not quite vertical- if my rusty memory serves me...

    Gavin (Bogav) did one for our M7D in duroplast as I recall...

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    As an alternate idea, I shortened the hopper when I had a Macap M7D. The total height of the grinder with the modified hopper was 630mm and I used a Mazzer doser lid as the hopper lid.
    Steve.

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    Great, thanks for the info

    Prefer to replace instead of cut down the original. I'll place an order via talk coffee on the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodyboardingbum View Post
    Hiya Folks,

    Looking to slightly change up my approach to grinding on demand, and wanting a small hopper (similar to the mazzer supper short one) to suit my Macap MXA.

    Cheers!
    what approach do you intend to use ?
    if you consider "single dosing " ..IE using a weighed dose of beans into the grinder, then you may easily get away with no hopper,...just a cap or piston inside the grinder throat to prevent beans popping out ( look for a suitable sized spice jar ?)
    Alternatively, if you still feel the need for a short hopper, look in catering suppliers for "jam funnels" they are stainless, available in a range of sizes and heights. Neat looking too!
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    Already single dosing using the jam funnel method haha. Wanting to try storing 2-3 days of fresh beans in the hopper and see how it goes... *shock, horror!*

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    Hi bbb,

    I was wondering how you're getting on with finding a smaller hopper. I myself purchased a Elektra MCX (rebDged macap MXA) but without a hopper all together. I'm looking to find a hopper so I was wondering how you're doing. Also if you're looking to sell your large hopper I might be interested.

    Thanks

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    I doubt anyone is going to find a smaller than std hopper for this and as stated above it will probably be a case of cutting down the regular hopper OR using one from an M4/5 series (2 sizes available, M4 or 5) and sleeving it out to fit into the inlet of the MX.

    Regular hoppers for an MXA are readily available and are no doubt significantly less expensive than buying a "genuine" hopper for anything with an elektra name on it even if it is a rebadged macap.

    I used the regular cafe size hopper on my MXA at home, which had (in a fall) suffered a chip/break around the top edge of the hopper. I found an unused lid from another (nondescript / brand insignificant) smaller hopper, and cut down the damaged MXA hopper to suit the smaller lid.

    Works perfectly.

    Just note that hoppers are not necessarily "cheap" so when buying a grinder that is missing the hopper, it should be taken into consideration in terms of pricing because without the hopper, the grinder is technically unusable ie, when buying a grinder that doesnt have a hopper, the first thing you need to do is....buy a hopper...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOK View Post
    ....when buying a grinder that is missing the hopper, it should be taken into consideration in terms of pricing because without the hopper, the grinder is technically unusable ie, when buying a grinder that doesnt have a hopper, the first thing you need to do is....buy a hopper...
    obviously we have a very different approach to domestic grinder use.
    of the several grinders I have owned, only the Rocky was ever used WITH the hopper ,....all the others have immediately had the hoppers removed to enable easy single dosing.
    i don't run a commercial cafe, so I don't need a commercial device to hold commercial quantities of beans.

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    That doesn't preclude someone from using the hopper to single or double dose. As you well know when only a minimum of beans is placed into the throat of the grinder you get an amount of "popcorning" happening after a certain minimum of beans are left. Having a hopper in place helps with this, and individuals can deal with the small amount of left over beans in the bottom as they like.

    And we all know that when push comes to shove, even a humble take away cup could be used as a "hopper".

    Regardless, the grinder is incomplete without its hopper, and if a buyer wants a grinder supplied with a hopper, who is the vendor to preach to him that he doesn't need one or his coffee making technique is somehow substandard if he uses one.....
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    A hopper simply gives the "popcorn" beans somewhere to rattle around !
    better to ditch the hopper and use a spice jar as a weight/ piston to keep the beans in the throat... Less time, less noise.
    Most quality grinders (Mazer, Compak, etc) have a throat that will easily hold ~50gms of beans and a cap/jar on top, so dose size is not an issue.
    Apart from the space /height saving, one of the biggest benefits of going "hopper less" is the reduction in noise, which hoppers seem to amplify...especially if nearly empty !.

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    Hi blend. Look, the point of this is simple. The grinder is NOT COMPLETE as a purchase, if it comes without a hopper. Like buying a car without a bonnet. It will run without the bonnet, and anyone that wants to run a car without the bonnet is perfectly at liberty to do so, but it doesn't preclude the fact that the car is incomplete without it. Comprende?

    I come here to help with advice which I have given to the OP, not to get bogged down or side tracked with silly off the planet details.

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    The OP already has the grinder.
    He is looking for an alternative hopper or similar.
    So what is with all this " technically unusable" ..and "not complete as a purchase", BS ?
    THAT sounds a little silly irrelevant detail to me !

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    Looks to me like a number of alternatives have been suggested in the thread. The OP can choose to follow the advice- or not- as s/he wishes.

    Arguing over nothing delivers nothing of value. A little Christmas cheer anyone? Sheesh.
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    To answer the question that started this debate, I've stalled for a while on this project as I'm awaiting delivery of my 3D printer which I'll use to make the collar to fit a smaller hopper from the mazzer mini.

    I've got the large macap hopper, although not using it. I've got a stainless jam funnel which fits perfectly to the collar on the grinder, and use an old plastic tamp to stop the popcorning. Works great for single dosing, however my eventual plan is to fit a small hopper, store ~3-5days of fresh beans in there and create a dose time controller to grind a single/double with a single button press.

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    This picture illustrates how I'm using the Macap at the moment, paired with a Cimbali on the left. (Apologies for terrible photo, all I've got handy!)

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