Post By TC
Post By dan110024
Post By pyrmontboy200
The best value hand grinder on the market?
Im looking for a relatively cheap hand grinder for use on a v60 and aero press, Whats the best?
Rhinowares is every bit as good as the small name brand ones. The burr sets are interchangeable with Porlex, Hario et al as well.
I have a Pharos and have used a Lido as well. I can recommend both as high-quality hand grinders. I use my Pharos daily, often with the Aeropress at home, but use a Porlex when traveling. Grind time is depressingly long with the Porlex (~2min) compared with the Pharos (~10sec). Big difference in price and size - so it depends what your priorities are.
I use a Lido for travel / aeropress - it's awesome. Big and heavy but fast - about 20secs for 20g. And also handles espressos with ease.
Depends too on what you mean by 'relatively cheap' - but if you're talking about 'the best' in the same sentence …
With my aeropress I use a Hario Skerton that I bought from Chris a few years back. Works well enough, if a bit slow. The Rhinoware one he has now looks OK.
Dammit... Just looked at reviews on the Lido and have been interested in a hand grinder for my aeropress and possibly for the odd decaf espresso for other members in my house... Why is there always a 'next thing' to buy? Every damn time!
Originally Posted by DesigningByCoffee
Last edited by dan110024; 8th May 2015 at 09:17 AM.
I have used a Hario and a Porlex mini, mostly for aeropress but also for v60 and Moka pot. The Porlex is hands-down a better grinder. Smaller (so great for travel), easier to adjust, better grind consistency and easier to grind. Adjusting a Hario is a real pain, I wouldn't recommend one.
I haven't tried the Lido but think it might be overkill for aeropress. One reason I like aeropress is I find it the most forgiving of manual brew methods. A little too fine, too coarse, brewed too long, whatever, the coffee will still be good. That's important if you are brewing at work or when travelling and just need a good cuppa rather than one you're obsessing over to get perfect.
My only complaint with the Porlex mini is that I bought it so it could fit inside the aeropress. It does, but it gets stuck very easily! I needed to put it in the freezer to contract the metal of the grinder, then run the aeropress under hot water in order to get the grinder out. PITA.
I use the porlex for my v60 & chemex.
I use a LIDO with V60, syphon and also with my Silvia. The LIDO is a beast and a lot bigger than the photos present. I also use a Zassenhaus of 90s vintage and a KyM, both have impressive performance for their age, and stand up pretty well to both the Lido. The older European grinders have shaft assemblies that are rock solid and should in no way be mistaken with the new generation of Chinese knockoffs with inner burrs that wander all over the place.
The uniformity of grinds at the filter range for the LIDO is really quite impressive. I think it gives me the best cup out of my collection. If you do pick up one of the OE grinders make sure you watch the OE youtubes on burr alignment, at first I thought they were rambling, but they are actually packed with good info. So I guess at the ~100 or less mark you could try pick up a second hand European vintage grinder like a Peugot, KyM or Zass, then getting up to the ~200 mark maybe one of the OE grinders. I do like the look of that new RoK grinder although don't know how far away it is from being released... I like how they have actually brought some science into the marketing with the particle distribution analysis.
I'm not sure what the longevity is like with the Prolex/Hario etc, but I managed to break my Rhinowares grinder within 6 months. Basically, the pin that holds the knob onto the handle arm wore out and the knob came off. This was grinding for 2 pourovers a day during the working week. I managed to "macgyver' it back together and it still works and I have it stored away as an emergency/travel grinder. However, this incident prompted me to upgrade to the LIDO2 and am so glad that I did.
Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee
Even though the LIDO is roughly 4x the price of the Porlex/Rhinowares/Hario grinders, I would say it is way better value for money. Build-quality, grind-quality are exceedingly superior and it is so much faster.
Yes- I'd agree that the Lido 2 is 10x the grinder that the small ones are for 3-4x the price.
Did you follow up the issues with your Rhinowares? We have sold plenty and so far, no problems.
I didn't bother with following up about the broken Rhinowares grinder. Mainly because I was able to fix it myself fairly easily (and actually I think my repair job has made it more robust) and there was nothing wrong with the grinding mechanism. Figured it wouldn't be worth the hassle for all involved. Plus, it gave me a nice excuse to upgrade to the LIDO2.