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    OE Lido E hand grinder

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    We're bringing a small batch to Australia prior to their January launch. Thread pitch is finer for more adjustability for those who want to use a Lido primarily for espresso.

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    Ordered, can't wait to try it.

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    couldnt wait and am using one i bought from the UK, on a trip to Qld with the family (as i couldnt face my porlex handle coming off 4 times, every time i grind a coffee).
    For that reason alone its a great improvement - and much faster than the porlex

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    It seems the Lido E is the ducks guts of hand grinders these days if espresso is your thing. For 100% home coffee grinding (next to no travelling involved), is it safe to assume that the Lido E has essentially replaced the Pharos? I've always wanted a Pharos, but have never seen one for sale in Australia. Now I'm thinking it may not matter and I'll just grab an E and be done with it.

    As soon as my KS pour over arrives I'll be electricity free for my coffee, barring the kettle for hot water (not sure if starting a fire in the middle of the kitchen is a good idea!)
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    I have a LIDO 1 & 2, though not the E, they both work well for espresso although I imagine the adjustment is an advantage. I also have a Hausgrind by Knock, its the same burr set but a very easy screw adjuster with a knurled knob on top of the handle - its my travel grinder of choice these days.
    I also have the first Pharos made, heavily modified and a class above most other hand grinders - but not very handy for travel!

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    Thanks for your patience guys. Lido 2, 3 and E (and accessories) went express post yesterday to those who were waiting. If you're in the zone, you should now have them.

    Enjoy!

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    Received my Lido E today! Thanks a lot for your updates and excellent service Chris.
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    Also received Lido E today. Compared to Lido 2 = light!. Less aggressive burr means easier grind, but with the compromise of more turns. Still dialling in, but can already see that adjustments give more definite results and none of the vagueness that could be experienced with the L2. This is my third OE hand grinder, and again an improvement. Thanks Chris for service, and for the sacrifice in containing costs. Much appreciated.
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    So I'm about to pull the trigger on this for my traveling v60 kit. Should I get the lido 3 or lido 3E? It's only going to be used for my pour over. Just checking which is the better one for my purposes. Cheers

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    If you're sure you won't need to grind for espresso, the Lido 3 will be great with its folding handle and travel tote bag. It's the better of the two for travelling. E is the better one for espresso but has no folding handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaffeinatedAndrew View Post
    So I'm about to pull the trigger on this for my traveling v60 kit. Should I get the lido 3 or lido 3E? It's only going to be used for my pour over. Just checking which is the better one for my purposes. Cheers
    Lido 3 for sure Andrew...

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    Cheers Chris & samuellaw178

    order has just been placed

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    Lido 3 vs Lido E

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    Lido 3 for sure Andrew...

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    Hi Chris

    I have the original Lido 1, and I can grind for espresso no problem at all. I am looking though for a more compact hand grinder for travel, so the Lido 3 was on my short-list. Can any of our members explain how the Lido E is more superior to the Lido 3 when it comes to espresso (given that I am fine with the Lido 1 for espresso- maybe I'm just lucky?). My basic question is, will the Lido 3 also be fine for espresso or is the Lido E streets ahead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavisconi007 View Post
    Hi Chris

    I have the original Lido 1, and I can grind for espresso no problem at all. I am looking though for a more compact hand grinder for travel, so the Lido 3 was on my short-list. Can any of our members explain how the Lido E is more superior to the Lido 3 when it comes to espresso (given that I am fine with the Lido 1 for espresso- maybe I'm just lucky?). My basic question is, will the Lido 3 also be fine for espresso or is the Lido E streets ahead?
    If you're happy with the 2 for espresso, you will be fine with the 3. Regret I can't comment on the 1 as I have not touched one.

    The only significant difference between the 2/3 and E is the thread pitch on adjustment.

    Hope that helps

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    Sorry to be a nit-picker but there is another significant difference between the 2/3 and E, and that is the relocation of the bottom bearing in the E below the inner burr. This is to "deliver the grind consistency required for
    espresso & Turkish coffee."

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    Yes Otago- correct.

    Nevertheless, I have used my 3 as a traveller with my Cremina for terrific espresso. Doug and Barb have produced some great grinder and the Lido range are all terrific.

    Cheers

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    Looks great - anyone have a view on grind for espresso and usability compare to a ROK grinder?

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    For those who have been asking, more are on the way. We expect them in around 10 days. OE Lido E grinder | Talk Coffee

    Cheers

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    i picked up one of these - intending as a decaf grinder, but the grind is so good have been using it instead of our mazzer mini e. Seems to make a taste difference in the cup and really great crema... Especially from the El Salavador single origin that came with it. Is there a quality difference here - Or am I dreaming? Anyone else had similar experiences - and any thoughts on what electric grinder I need to get a grind that good?

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    Coffman, I can't answer your questions but I am a potential buyer. Just wondering if you've found your routine with the Lido E to be easier or harder vs the Mazzer? I use a handgrinder now for pourover so am used to that but interested to hear of your experience.

    EDIT: Also where did the El Salvador come from? If it's from Chris at TalkCoffee he might score another sale...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffman View Post
    Seems to make a taste difference in the cup and really great crema... Anyone else had similar experiences - and any thoughts on what electric grinder I need to get a grind that good?
    No disagreement here
    I think it has to do with the conical burr set in these grinders. I've said in a number of threads that I could taste very little difference between the Lido and the Robur - and the Lido is so much better at single dosing with no retention! The mini-e is a flat burr grinder - so will give a different flavour profile from the Lido (or Robur!). I always found my M4 gave a richer flat white, but had more dark notes in espresso - but horses for courses…
    Cheers Matt

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    Marcism, the routine is different - I don't think better or worse just different. Same as Matt re routine - With the lido, I single dose and grind from there. No retention and all pretty easy. It does take longer - I read some people say the lido could grind 18g or so in 20 seconds. I grind a bit more leisurely than that, probably takes me 40 - 50 seconds.

    Thanks for the view Matt, I think the conical might be on the money. Any idea of what other grinders might reproduce it? Robus would not fit in my kitchen


    El Salvador did come from Talk Coffee - big 480g bag. Supersonic - absolutely fantastic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffman View Post
    … I think the conical might be on the money. Any idea of what other grinders might reproduce it? Roburs would not fit in my kitchen
    And there's the conundrum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffman View Post
    i picked up one of these - intending as a decaf grinder, but the grind is so good have been using it instead of our mazzer mini e. Seems to make a taste difference in the cup and really great crema... Especially from the El Salavador single origin that came with it. Is there a quality difference here - Or am I dreaming? Anyone else had similar experiences - and any thoughts on what electric grinder I need to get a grind that good?
    I've just got one of these this morning and have ground a few espressos with it. Compared to my Mazzer mini e I think it does taste different, better I would say, as well as the grind smells different, stronger and just so lovely.

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    Hi Chris,

    Placed my order yesterday and received my goods today, thank you for the fast service!

    I am having a bit of problem with the Lido E though, when on setting at recommend 4 click for espresso and the brew come out too fast, also on the zero settings, I can go about -2 click before it actually feels tighter. Beside that, I think I am getting a bur rub on 4 click(must admit not sure how it sounds, but its making a bit of rubbing sound. Not sure if its bearing or bur rub).

    The handle seems to be able to travel on axis 2mm upwards, and that makes the rub sounds bigger, I have to push it down to sort of soften the sound.

    Are those mentioned expected? New to hand grind so need all the help possible. Thanks again.

    Jayden

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    Hi Jayden
    Have you gone through the little instruction sheet that came with it? I found it pretty helpful…
    I wouldn't stress about exact numbers - they may well shift a little due to burr positions etc. But if you loosen up the lock ring wind the grinder up as far as it will go until it locks up, then back it off around 10-11 notches, you should be in the ball park (well - with a Lido 2 - not sure whether the 3 with the different burrs are the same). And if the handle is loose, it could be the little allen key that holds the handle/shaft in place. There is a tool that comes with it - just tighten that up and see if it makes a difference.
    Cheers Matt
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    Hi Matt,

    Thank you for the info and yes I read it through couple of times, including browsing different forum.

    I Will definitely try your suggestion, it makes more sense to me now and I thank you for that

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    A bit of an update. Ignoring the marked true zero, I adjusted accordingly to achieve desire fineness and manage to pull a couple of shot and its working really well. I must say the coffee comes out with more nuance and intensity compared to my k3 touch, even my wife noticed the big difference.

    The noise seems to be much less now and the handle can spin much more freely after putting through some beans, maybe it just need to be break in more I guess. Thanks again Matt
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    Nice work yoshio and thanks for taking the reply for me Matt.

    Best always to send an email if you want to contact me. I generally give CS a quick look once or twice a day. Very easy to miss a post.

    As always with any grinder, you adjust it to do what you need it to- zero or not.

    Chris
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    Glad it came together yoshio - is a great grinder when you get it dialled in

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    Got my Lido E today after less than 24 hours to Sydney shipped. Dialled in pretty damn close in 2 shots and man, what a pleasure to use. Technique is currently against the hip to grind and I knocked out 18g in about 40 seconds. Not too hard, but I'm used to hand grinding. Should get a bit easier I suspect. The amount of space on my bench that is freed up is awesome! Taste is great and on par with my Compak K6. I just couldn't deal with single dosing with it anymore.

    Big thanks to Chris @ TalkCoffee for the fantastic support and service.
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    That's great to hear
    FWIW with the Lido I'm almost a 'dose by weight' convert now with the Lido. I haven't adjusted the grind setting for espresso for months. Light tamp and 18g for a new/softer bean up to 22g with a firm tamp for older/lighter roasts. Great pour everytime…!
    Cheers Matt
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    Finally placed an order as an upgrade to my Portlex tall. Can't wait to see the results of the big step up in quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaffeinatedAndrew View Post
    So I'm about to pull the trigger on this for my traveling v60 kit. Should I get the lido 3 or lido 3E? It's only going to be used for my pour over. Just checking which is the better one for my purposes. Cheers
    Weeks Aziz

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlastairMcG View Post
    Weeks Aziz
    ?????

    Diagonal Counter Rabbit.

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    Ah oops, damn pocket message.... Dont know why it does it on smart phones still

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    Got my grinder today thanks to @talk_coffee. Ordered on the 6th, got it on 9th. Build quality is amazing. Such a big, sturdy grinder. My hand grind muscles has been seasoned using the Portlex for so long. Grind time was quick and relatively easy.

    Chris also chucked in some of his own beans to play with which were roasted on 4th. Thanks heaps Chris! Legend!
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    Dear Talk_Coffee, I'm planning to grab a Lido E this week. In fact I was going to buy it this morning, but postage comes to $37! Is there any chance of working something better out? I had an extra pram seat sent to me from Sydney for $29 last week using sendle, so I'm desperately hoping for a better deal on postage. Cheers

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    Hello elfinke. Postage is capped to $25 on this item (5kg express satchel). Excess will be refunded to your card/PayPal account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    Hello elfinke. Postage is capped to $25 on this item (5kg express satchel). Excess will be refunded to your card/PayPal account.
    Whoah, that's great! You continue to be awesome. I'll order one tonight after dinner. Much appreciated.

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    Looking at getting a new grinder. Quick question regarding the Lido 2 vs. Lido 3 v Lido e - should I stick to Lido 2/3 if I am doing pour-over + aeropress 90% of the time? (the other 10% is when i pull out the old Presso )

    Is it hard to adjust Lido E for coarse grinds/ or Lido2/3 for espresso grind?

    thanks in advance.

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    The E is best suited to majority espresso.

    I took a 3 away with me last week and it was used solely for espresso. No issues whatsoever and a brilliant result in the cup.

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    hi Chris,

    Thanks for the quick reply. One more question, are the internals of Lido 2 and Lido 3 the same? or is Lido 3 an improvement over the Lido 2 in terms of design/performance? (I seem to recall reading somewhere, the conical burrs changed in Lido 3?)
    Asking this as I won't need the portability factor of the Lido 3 and I do prefer the looks of the Lido 2.

    Cheers



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