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    Hi SBB here
    >:(well what can i tell you i have a sunbeam grinder ::)
    and it has been working well for some time. But i gave it a clean out
    last week for a change of beans and now the grind is awful >:(.
    gave sunbeam a ring told me it was not 100% clean that is why ????????
    it is the em0480 i have gone from a #14 grind to a #5 and it still
    is not working as well help meeeeeeee ::)

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    Hey,
    That has happened with me too... Just take it back to where you purchased it if its still underwarranty and exchange it for a new one.
    If its not under warranty you could do a string mod that you take the top burr out of the plastic carrier and place a piece of string on the inside of the carrier and put back the burr.

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    There is a right way and several wrong way to put the em0480 back together. Some of the wrong ways are obvious because it wont go back together completely. But there is 1 wrong way that looks right but changes the grind down by 10-15 stops. I have yet to find out what is actually happening but if it happens to me I re-disassemble it and re-reassemble it and it is fixed.

    When I get a bit of time, I will find a definitive answer as to the right way to make it wrong and then make it right again and post it here.

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    From memory,

    The wrong way is to reinsert the upper burr carrier into the adjustment collar, when the collar is not fully anticlockwise.

    The right way is to re insert the upper burr [and align its arrows], when [and only when] the adjustment collar is rotated fully anticlockwise.

    I also noticed that depending on which arrow you aligned to [there are two 180 deg apart] you would get either a 14-16 espresso zone or a 5-7 espresso zone.

    That said, eventually after regular and successful cleaning operations, I ended up with the same problem [#5 setting] and determined that it was caused by the slipping burr problem [as alluded to by Coffee Kid]

    [see other sunbeam grinder threads]

    Its a bad design, I believe it will eventually happen to all EM0480s [even your replacement]

    Take it back, make sure you get, 12 months warranty on the replacement, or demand your money back [or a Myer/DJ voucher to give your SO] and buy a better grinder.

    You will not believe the improvement in consistancy you get with a better grinder

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    Quote Originally Posted by reubster link=1181435470/0#3 date=1181608300
    You will not believe the improvement in consistancy you get with a better grinder
    Have you gone to an infinitely adjustable grinder? That is the only way to get improvement in consistency over the Sunbeam EM480C/EM450 grinders and only if your dosing is exactly the same for every shot that you pull.

    The Sunbeam EM480C/EM450 and Lux and Iberital/Innova grinder all use the same burr set and grind quality is as good as a flat burr Mazzer or Rancilio Rocky/MDF or Nuova Simonelli MCF. I havent played with other grinders so I wont comment on them.

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    kaanage,

    Im intrigued why you are such a strong advocate for Sunbeam.... You dont work for them, sell them etc do you??? ;)

    There is more to the grinder than the burr set..... and yes most domestic conicals do have the same burr set.

    But it comes down to build quality...... which determines the life of the grinder, the ease with which you can get repeatable results and ease of adjustment.

    Yes, the Sunbeam grinders are cheap (but not only in price! ::)) After a short time there is lateral play in the shaft holding the centre burr.... resulting in the centre burr wobbling about - uneven grind results. The fixed burr beds itself into the cheap plastic carrier - resulting in the need to grind finer and finer until it runs out of adjustment and then its either back to Sunbeam for a replacement (and they are good at warranty service) or a string, cardboard or plastic washer is fitted by the owner to overcome the problem.

    Yes, many commercial grinders and the Rocky are also stepped.... but the Sunbeams steps are much larger..... however they are small in comparison to the Solis 166 AKA DeLonghi KG100. You can live with the step size as you say.... but many here soon discovered that to be a real pain and have upgraded. It doesnt take long for most peoples technique to become that good.

    A brand new (straight out of the box) Sunbeam might grind almost as good as the flat burr grinders you mentioned..... (and IMHO that is quite a call) but that equivalence wont last for long..... there is a simple saying "You pay your money - and you get what you pay for". In this case you are paying quite a bit less.... and so is the quality of what you are buying.

    If on a budget and you want a cheap grinder which is adequate and wont last long - it is a good option (and dont expect much resale value). But if you want something to go the distance.... be prepared to pay more (and you will also get more - reliability)

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    A Sunbeam fanboy :D. I never thought Id get accused of that after the pasting I used to give their single thermoblack machines :)

    OK, I havent heard of the issue with the center burr play before - Im surprised that Alan Frew would sell them given this - and I havent played with one long enough to experience it, myself. It must an issue with the reduction gear mount being innapropriately engineered (like the EM6900 group mounts) as my Lux has no issues at all after a few years of use and it is basically the same design. So it looks like I get to be a Sunbeam slagger again!! ;D

    I stand by my comment on the step size, though. You can compensate easily with dose to prevent it being an issue.

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    JavaB, while the sliding burr carrier has been an issue with some, I havent had this issue... and I suspect it happens when adjusting to a finer grind while the beans are still in the burr itself... If I have to go quite drastically a few steps finer, I run the grinder at the same time. Its common sense really...and the Lateral play? not an issue with mine either..

    Curious, have you used the grinder in question or are you going on others experience?

    Everything has a price point and lets me honest, Sunbeam have been the only major company with the guts to come out with a decent grinder with an achievable price point.

    Yes, I do agree the steps are too large.

    My 2 cents...

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    Yep,

    I think it is more an engineering / QA issue rather than an actual design fault.... Sunbeam need to raise their game in the grinder stakes.... the grinders were a "match" for the 6900..... and they certainly match it for long term performance....

    But just like the 6910 - they can / should get the bugs out.... and a re-engineered grinder could be quite attractive (but the existing ones have a few too many issues).

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcstolk link=1181435470/0#7 date=1181616592

    Curious, have you used the grinder in question or are you going on others experience?
    marcstolk,

    Yes, Ive used one (but not long enough to experience any of the problems- as it was at a friends house and was also quite new).

    It worked very well, wasnt too noisy but was a PITA to adjust the grind size....

    Comments re reliability are based on the multitude of people here with problems..... and I cant see why Sunbeam cant address these issues (just as they did with the 6900).



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    Kaanage

    "You will not believe the improvement in consistancy you get with a better grinder"

    To clarify, yes I have gone to a stepless grinder, and yes I believe any stepless grinder or any grinder with finer steps than a Sunbeam [ie rocky] will yield a consistancy improvement.

    What I found with the Sunbeam was:

    Adjustment between two consectutive Sunbeam steps will change the pour by about 9 seconds.

    If the particular grind setting happed to be in the espresso "sweet-spot" then any unconscious variations in my dosing & distribution & tamping technique caused a relatively minor variation in the shot [say +/-3 sec]
    So the consistancy was OK, most shots would be good.

    If a particular grinder setting was a little outside the ideal espresso zone, then variations in my technique would either produce an undrinkable shot or a good shot.

    Often, it took a couple of shots to work out the nearest setting and then Id have to "fudge" my technique to adjust for the large step variation.

    In the course of a week, I used to find only two [or at best three] days where the grinder was in the sweetspot.

    I guess what Im saying here is that if the grind is just right then minor variations in your technique have much less effect on the shot..... therefore:
    smaller steps or stepless=greater consistancy


    I also found changing to a dosing grinder was a big help.
    I had developed a pretty good technique with the Sunbeam [which included WDT] but once Id worked out the right volumetric dose for the Compak, It just worked every time.

    Running both grinders side by side for a couple of weeks, I also thought that the look and feel of grind was better in the Compak.
    I suspect that heavy duty well machined brass burr carriers produce a more even grind. Unlike the sunbeam, there is no play or movement between the burrs.


    To be honest, It feels like Im cheating now, I used to have to work really hard with the Sunbeam, now I just fill, grind and tamp, and its always right.
    So I have concluded my technique was probably better than I thought and that the sunbeam grinder was holding me back.

    In conclusion though, when all is right, the Sunbeam is capable of producing a very good shot.

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    Fair enough, reubster. In that context, I see your point but you have gone to a far more expensive grinder to get this greater ease of use.

    Quote Originally Posted by marcstolk link=1181435470/0#7 date=1181616592
    JavaB, while the sliding burr carrier has been an issue with some, I havent had this issue... and I suspect it happens when adjusting to a finer grind while the beans are still in the burr itself... If I have to go quite drastically a few steps finer, I run the grinder at the same time. Its common sense really...and the Lateral play? not an issue with mine either..
    So are we talking about misuse causing the problems with the Sunbeam grinders? I seem to remember discussion about the manual stating that adjustments should only be made with the grinder running and people asking why. Well this seem to be the answer!

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    Sunbeam are... but the grinder hasnt had the issues like the Em6900 had...

    I use my grinder ALL the time, everyday... 2-3 sessions a day at a bare minimum! I am amazed at the reported issues as I seem to have escaped it ;-)

    As Kaanage said, you can adjust your dosing a bit to compensation the step issue, but I do prefer to maintain a consistent Dosing regime.

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    Kaanage,

    Ill have a look at my Manual tonight and see what it says about the adjustments...but it does makes sense... otherwise you are just applying unnessesary pressure...

    reubster, you not comparing Apples with Apples ... $199 grinder to a $550-$600 grinder... If I had the dollars, Id own a Compak ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by marcstolk link=1181435470/0#13 date=1181620033
    reubster, you not comparing Apples with Apples ... $199 grinder to a $550-$600 grinder... If I had the dollars, Id own a Compak ...
    This was invited by Kaanage:
    The Sunbeam EM480C/EM450 and Lux and Iberital/Innova grinder all use the same burr set and grind quality is as good as a flat burr Mazzer or Rancilio Rocky/MDF or Nuova Simonelli MCF. I havent played with other grinders so I wont comment on them.
    I also would put my grinders (Mazzers) up against the Sunbroke one any day of the week. Theyre now almost 20 years old with the first 17 years of their life spent in a commercial environment. Other than the occassional burr replacement due to wear nothing else has ever been done to it and its still pumping out the same consistantly perfect grounds it did when new. Lets see the Sunbrokes equal that. :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Javaphile link=1181435470/0#14 date=1181621589
    Other than the occassional burr replacement due to wear nothing else has ever been done to it and its still pumping out the same consistantly perfect grounds it did when new. Lets see the Sunbrokes equal that. :)


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    Java,

    I think it is a "sign of the times" that we now readily accept things can be "cheaper" and if so - a relatively short life is acceptable. Whatever happened to the "whole of life" cost when purchasing something? It appears to have gone out of the window - totally....

    If something costs twice as much but lasts 3 (or even 10 or more times longer) it IS much better value. (And with my environmental hat on - So much better for the planet)... Whilst I accept that it is harder to find the extra money, it can be done if people are serious about getting quality.

    And even if the reason these units are failing is adjusting the burrs with beans in them and the unit stationary..... (which I agree shouldnt be done) then why is this not a problem with Lux, Iberital and all the other grinders using this burr set. Id suggest the designers took this possibility into account and have used a more robust material which doesnt deform as readily.

    People do make mistakes, people dont follow instructions.... and this must (and generally is) accepted by manufacturers. Whilst the effect of such misuse cant be totally eliminated in all cases, it can be minimised. For example the manufacturer of a childs swing will put an absolute maximum load for safe operation...... but knowing some people wont pay attention.... the actual safe rating will be much higher than that advertised..... an "el cheapo" clone will often fail either just at or slightly above the rating..... the manufacturers rating in the second case is legally correct.... but a little smarter engineering and the willingness for the consumer to pay more for the item pays dividends.


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    I guess to Sunbeams defence, the sector of the market that their equipment is aimed at is highly unlikely to spend the time and effort that CS members would on dialling in a grind. That said, Sunbeams willingness to replace broken grinders under warranty certainly suggests that they recognise there is an issue and hopefully it will be addressed.

    I may go back to recommending the Lux - Ill have to revisit my friends with Sunbeam grinders and have a close look at the burr mounts.

    BTW There is also a practicality reason why not everyone runs commercial grinders (let alone commercial machines) - the room they take is not negligible, even in this day of MacMansions. And WAF is not to be discounted either.

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    Marcstolk,

    "reubster, you not comparing Apples with Apples ... $199 grinder to a $550-$600 grinder... If I had the dollars, Id own a Compak ..."

    That a fair comment,

    I raised the "upgrade issue" as an alternative suggestion to simply replacing the Sunbeam with a Sunbeam.
    Then I added the second post [re shot consistancy], as an extended "please explain " response to Kaanage.
    What I outlined [ie the grind adjustments effect on shot consistancy] would also apply to Iberital Challenge which is only marginally more expensive than the Sunbeam,

    Dollars are an issue with me too, hence why I originally purchased the Sunbeam, I was really happy with it for about 3 months, but having outgrown the stepsize I knew Id eventually have to upgrade.
    Once Id experienced the quality issues I could not happliy swap it for another one.


    Im glad yours is still OK, you are lucky.
    Im curious, hypothetically speaking, if yours died tomorrow what would you do?

    [Please dont answer this if you think a response it may curse your grinder....I had a laugh]


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    Quote Originally Posted by reubster link=1181435470/15#17 date=1181626088
    Iberital Challenge which is only marginally more expensive than the Sunbeam, *
    Where? If I could find the Iberital under A$220, Id recommended them, with no qualifiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1181435470/15#15 date=1181623194
    Java,

    I think it is a "sign of the times" that we now readily accept things can be "cheaper" and if so - a relatively short life is acceptable. Whatever happened to the "whole of life" cost when purchasing something? It appears to have gone out of the window - totally....
    Yup, blame it on the mass consumption mindset thats got to have the latest toy filling their house. The only way they can do it is to buy cheap. Having the latest toy sitting on their bench now is more important to them than producing a great product from a machine that will last the rest of their life.

    It took me 10 years to find the espresso machine and grinder I wanted at a price I could afford. In the end it was all well worth the wait when after 2 1/2 years of haggling I picked up my 2 group Cimbali M28 and 2 Mazzer Super Jollys for $USD250. Great deals on high-end equipment are out there, if youre willing to put some serious effort into finding them and to live with what youve got until you do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kaanage link=1181435470/15#18 date=1181627168
    Where? If I could find the Iberital under A$220, Id recommended them, with no qualifiers.
    So now youre saying the Iberital is better than the Sunbeam? 10 hours ago you were saying they were equally capable. :-?


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    reubster, Id go back to Sunbeam with a please explain... and want a replacement... no one is questioning the "you gets what you pay for" issue... but for the money, the Sunbeam is excellent value and is really not challenged at all at this price range...


    Java, if the Challenge was just $220 Id drop the sunbeam at a heartbeat... and have stepless adjustment... but the challenge is at the $300 area and you can get a Sunbeam for $170 easily... big price difference...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javaphile link=1181435470/15#20 date=1181639792
    So now youre saying the Iberital is better than the Sunbeam? 10 hours ago you were saying they were equally capable. :-?
    marcstolks reply is the short version.

    The long version is that the Iberital is terrific if you only drink one blend/bean at any time as the very fine screw adjuster allows for minute grind changes but is a pain if you swap around - this is a very big issue if you need to use decaf for a partner. Previous to the Sunbeams, the Lux was the other low price alternative and had the advantage of easy adjustability plus was about 15% cheaper but had a fairly large step size between grind settings. Both had excellent grind quality, good durability in a domestic environment but neither was decisively better than the other so choice came down to preference.

    Then along came Sunbeam with their grinders being around 60% of the Iberital and 70% of the Lux with the same grind capabilities as the Lux, a removable hopper that closed off (which neither the Lux nor the Iberital has), wide availability in department stores that often have substantial discounts, a terrific warranty period that is well backed by a nationwide support network and lastly, rather nice styling.

    All of these reasons makes the Sunbeam far and away the best grinder for people on a budget. There is absolutely no comparision with any other grinders remotely near their pricing - the previous favorite, the DeLonghi KG100/Solis Maestro, has far worse wear issues with the burr carriers, needs modifiction to grind fine enough for espresso, has far larger grind steps and is nowhere near as well built, generally.

    Now if the Iberital could be had for 75% of its price, then its advantages would be easily worth the small premium in price but as it stands, the Sunbeam grinders are still outstanding value for money and the potential wear factor through (easily performed) misuse can still be weighed as being worthwhile for the cost savings, given the other factors I have mentioned above.

    Now for someone who doesnt mind scouring old cafes/ebay/etc for old commercial equipment and then spending the time to recondition them for domestic use, none of this is of any relevance. And those who can afford to throw wads of cash at heat exchanger machines and semi or full commercial grinders wouldnt see the point, either.

    But I know a heck of a lot of people who do not have neither the time nor skills nor inclination to go the 2nd hand route plus have limited budget (mortgages/kids/non-coffee interests etc). For these people, the Sunbeam is one heck of a deal and if a bit of extra care is what they need to take in order to get decent espresso, then it is still a reasonable recommendation. Or should these people be limited to cafes and plunger?

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    Top post kaanage !

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    Re: sunbeam grinder

    I do agree the sunbeam is hands down the best value budget grinder.
    Having owned one, it was well featured, asthetically great looking and did the job well for its price.

    And, I too have recommended them to friends, but with the warning that, I seriously doubt [in their current form] that they would have a useful life of more than two years.

    BTW, I never adjusted the grind setting with beans between the burrs so in my case the slippage problem was caused by normal useage. The upper burr just sits in the plastic carrier, no glue, no mounting screws and soft plastic, ie poor design.


    I also totally agree with the Javas re their "disposable culture" arguments, which is why I could not simply replace it with another.
    Fortunately, I am one of those people who likes to repair/restore/recondition so this gave me a very cost effective way to upgrade, I do appreciate your point that not everyone may have the time/skills/confidence for this choice.

    What I find a real shame is that the "giant steps" limitation and the slipping burr problem are both simple tooling/manufacturing issues and should/could easily be rectified without effecting the grinders price.

    What an absolute killer grinder it would be if the step size was halved and the upper burr was more solidly secured.


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    Quote Originally Posted by reubster link=1181435470/15#24 date=1181698827
    What an absolute killer grinder it would be if the step size was halved and the upper burr was more solidly secured.
    I dare say its probably coming....


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    I just got the Sunbeam last week and I have it at around 6 and still dont chock the espresso. Should I be concerned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nety link=1181435470/15#26 date=1181811745
    I just got the Sunbeam last week and I have it at around 6 and still dont chock the espresso. Should I be concerned?
    What sort of beans are you using and how fresh ?

    Secondly you may wish to read this posts http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1138058473/300#300 and those before it.

    At present I have removed the two standard Sunbeam spacers, and used a thicker one.

    My grind setting has now moved from a 4 to 8 and that puts by Sunbeam 6910 right up into the dark brown. If I tamp a little hard or Load the basket = RED / choke.

    As to how long before I need to add another spacer .... Who knows, but as I said in the other posts... I have 12months to see how things go and to call upon the Warranty if needed.

    So do you have a problem ??? Maybe not. However I would keep a close eye on it.

    Note: Stale beans are a pain, while fresh roasted really do give a nice consistent output and texture etc.

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    Re: sunbeam grinder

    Hi fellow coffee snobs,
    Im a newbie to the coffee scene as far as equiptment goes & have just purchased my silvia (after floundering with a cheap delongie machine for a few years)& I need to buy a decent grinder Has anybody got a em480 that works well with a silvia?
    I have read Alan Frews reviews & it seem to be a good cheap alternative to a Rocky But has any one got some advise?
    I dont have a big budget ($200)

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    Re: sunbeam grinder

    What youll find many people saying this grinder has too large of a step in adjustment that it is almost unsuitable for espresso. I have owned this grinder which I did pair with the Silvia and it performed reasonably well given a mixture of dosing techniques to compensate for the large adjustment steps. If you can save another $70 odd dollars I would go for the Iberital Challenge. Same conical burr set as the Sunbeam but stepless adjustment! What this means is that it allows you to really dial in the grind with the Silvia.

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    Re: sunbeam grinder

    I would read this whole thread again, taking in all the viewpoints that have been expressed and see where your mentality fits closest (casual/anal/perfectionist/adaptive...).

    Within your budget, there are no other choices

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    Re: sunbeam grinder


    So for the budget conscious espresso enthusiast, theres only really a few choices in Australia.

    Theres the Iberital Challenge sub $300, the Sunbeam EM480 sub $180 and the less well known Nemox Lux.



    Ive had a look at the Nemox Lux and it seems like a good alternative for folks who want a doserless grinder that is small in size with a tiny hopper for the beans.

    And I know where in Sydney they can be bought for $210, so if anyone is interested, PM me, as the seller is not a site sponsor, so I wont publicly reveal them.


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    $210... thats a great price for the Lux... thats a genuine alternative to the Sunbeam...

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    And better build quality.... still a bit noisy though but if that doesnt worry you they are a great little (stepped) grinder,

    Mal.

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    Thats a really good price. Only $50 more (than the Sunbeam EM450) for a well proven design.
    Is that pic reversed? Mine has the switch and adjuster on the left. And its funny how the Lux has been forgotten as it used to be the only real sub $300 choice for espresso before the Iberital was introduced.

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    Yeah I think if Imat produced a Lux with similar micrometrical adjustment to the Iberital, I personally believe it would be a superior machine as an espresso only grinder,

    Mal.

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    Re: sunbeam grinder

    tempestv8s picture does not do justice to the compact size the lux grinder comes... its seriously small! like half the height of the sunbeam (for those with smaller spaces) :o

    i havent personally used it but see it around the place as a decaf grinder in a commercial setting...

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    Awesome read....... I too have a sunbeam crap grinder, I killed the first one it decided to toast itself and burned out, the problem is that they freely replaced it but they wernt offering my money back. I really like the sound of the nemox lux, any opinions worth knowing?

    Ray.

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    In NSW you can insist on your money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1181435470/30#38 date=1182866252
    In NSW you can insist on your money back.
    Actually depends on the circumstances TG. If the grinder was faulty, wrongly described, different from a sample shown, or didnt do what it was meant to do, then yes, a refund exchange or credit is the customers choice. Ray says, he killed the first one - maybe that constitutes misuse, or maybe it was very old?

    Then again, perhaps one could always argue that the SB grinder will never "do what its meant to do" :P ;D

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    In Vic, DJs and Myer are reluctant to give a credit, especially when Sunbeams policy is replacement, however if you push hard and are prepared to accept a store voucher as credit, they will.....then you can buy a better grinder and give the voucher to your SO as a softener when you break the news.

    A cunning plan!

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 Grinder Settings

    Greetings,

    This is a great forum - thanks everyone for your comments and tips.

    I am a newbie and have been looking for a grinder for a few weeks. After reading the reviews and posts up here, i took the plunge and got a Sunbeam EM0480 ($179 at Myer - I think I may have paid too much). The machine is not as loud as I expected it to be and am finally seeing nice amount of crema in my coffee.

    Thankfully, the static issue is not too much of a problem, the grind comes out quite nicely. However I have noticed "left over" grinds that sit inside the chute, so it needs a smack/pat before I grind each fresh lot.

    I have noticed however that everyone is recommending different grind settings for espressos on this grinder. The manual recommends a 12-16, whilst I have found that 9 works quite well. I am just wondering that given this machine is mass manufactured, shouldnt it be consistent for everyone?

    Not wanting to waste stacks of coffee trying all the grind settings, do you have experiences/suggestions on optimising grind settings on the Sunbeam? What should I be looking for to know Ive gotten the best grind setting out of the machine.

    Also, do you change the grind settings each time you grind a different type of bean (e.g.: Kenya vs PNG etc?)

    Thanks,
    BT.

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 Grinder Settings

    Quote Originally Posted by bobster33 link=1181435470/30#41 date=1182944116
    I have noticed however that everyone is recommending different grind settings for espressos on this grinder. The manual recommends a 12-16, whilst I have found that 9 works quite well. I am just wondering that given this machine is mass manufactured, shouldnt it be consistent for everyone?
    In short. No!

    The setting will be different on each machine and for each bean. You will need to adjust the grind setting even throughout the day to compensate for varying humidity etc. As long as the burrs arent touching you can safely ignore what the number is and simply adjust the grind to get the proper extraction time.

    Also, do you change the grind settings each time you grind a different type of bean (e.g.: Kenya vs PNG etc?)
    Yes. :)


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    I doubt the sunbeams steps are small enough to account for ageing over that period. you will find that some beans you will have to change a couple of steps finer/courser and sometimes if your lucky no adjustment will be nesasary. The best advice is to adjust by time. you want to get the desired amount of coffee and less then 30 seconds after that it is a matter of taste. different coffees/roasts will be nicer and will require different extraction times/volumes to get the best out of them.

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    Re: sunbeam grinder

    Grinding PB I have the grinder set 2 steps courser...

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    Re: sunbeam grinder

    I also have mine set coarser, its on 12. When i first got it it was on about 15 or 16 and as time progresses i have had to move it down for the same grind.



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