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    Question Can I get by with my Rhinoware grinder?

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    So I'm planning on buying a Rancilio Silvia (or something similar) and I'm hoping not to have to drop a couple of hundred more on an electric grinder if I can avoid it.


    I have a Rhinoware hand grinder (i.e. ceramic conical burrs) which has been doing a fantastic job so far for my moka pot and French press.


    I don't have any experience using an espresso machine. Some folks at work (one runs a cafe) have told me they think my hand grinder won't do, but the marketing materials I've read kind of suggest otherwise.


    What do you guys think? Anyone here using a hand grinder with an espresso machine?

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    I doubt it would grind fine enough for espresso. I haven't used a rhinioware grinder so can't speak from experience but from what I can see, it's for manual brewing methods which don't need a really fine griind.
    The problem with using a handgrinder to grind for espresso isn't just about the fineness of the grind it's the effort to grind the required quantity as well. May not be a big problem if you are only grinding for one person but it can add up for double shots and multiple coffees.
    I would prefer to rely on proven knowledge and experience than on promotional material

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    I've used my Porlex mini (which I believe is very similar to the Rhinowares) for espresso and had few problems (other than RSI of the rotator cuff). It certainly wasn't zeroed out. The issue you may have is the degree of adjustability at fine grind settings. Give it a go....what have you got to lose? Depends what electric grinder you are considering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    I've used my Porlex mini (which I believe is very similar to the Rhinowares) for espresso and had few problems (other than RSI of the rotator cuff). It certainly wasn't zeroed out. The issue you may have is the degree of adjustability at fine grind settings. Give it a go....what have you got to lose? Depends what electric grinder you are considering.
    That's what I figured. Watched a video yesterday which showed a guy using one and ending up with too fine a grind - my concern was mostly with consistency, but I suppose it's ultimately just a manual version of the same grinding mechanism used in electric grinders. I'll just have a play and see how it goes...

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    If it's the youtube clip I'm thinking of, it looks like the bloke is using stale beans.

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    Silvia is quite sensitive to grind settings, I used one with a Sunbeam burr grinder for many years and didn't think I was getting the best out of the machine until I upgraded to a Macap. I doubt that you will get anything like a consistent high quality shot using a small portable hand grinder. Established wisdom is that the grinder is more important than the espresso machine. Given this, just look at the price discrepancy in your proposed setup and in my opinion, you will have an indication of what to expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtW View Post
    Silvia is quite sensitive to grind settings, I used one with a Sunbeam burr grinder for many years and didn't think I was getting the best out of the machine until I upgraded to a Macap..
    Have to second this. I had one for years with a Sunbean grinder. Wasn't until I upgraded the grinder I realised what a difference it can make.
    GQ

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    Thanks guys - just discovered a friend's got a decent grinder he's trying to offload, might have to see what he wants for it.

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    On a slightly different tangent-

    I have just taken delivery of a Rhinowares to replace my Porlex mini which I use as a travel kit with an Aeropress.

    I swapped mainly because of the annoying habit of the Porlex handle flying off mid- grind. The Rhinowares handle solves that problem.

    The other benefit of the Rhinowares is the slightly looser fit in the Aeropress which prevents the problem of the Porlex base sticking in the piston. By the way, for Porlex users I recently discovered that a simple way to remove a stuck base is to use both thumbs to grip the base and the opposing force seems to make it slide out quite easily.

    Despite the Rhinowares having a slightly lighter gauge material thickness it is actually heavier then the Porlex 172g vs 188. The Rhinowares is slightly higher and that would be where the extra weight is.

    The ceramic burrs are essentially the same and grind results are similar.

    Thanks again to Chris at Talk Coffee for excellent service and the Shed Shandy and Urban Blend samples. A much appreciated and tasty gesture.

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    Just following up on this - using the Rhinoware grinder, dialed it a tiny bit out from its tightest setting and it's giving me fantastic shots. Takes a little while to grind, but worth it
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