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    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Came back from China yesterday and tried out my new Sette 270 Grinder. I used up some older beans to get the dosing into the right ballpark and then tried out some beans that I have roasted 11 days ago. After some further adjustments I have gotten the yield to 1:2.5 in about 28 seconds. The taste is still quite sour so I will today grind a little bit finer with a shorter timer setting. I really like how fast it grinds, 7:50 seconds for 10 grams. And it is not as loud as I have expected after reading reviews that described it as being noisy.

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    Yes the 270Wi model sounds intriguing! Looks like they've really worked on improving on the older models which is nice to see. Anyone planning on getting it?

    I've always eyed off these grinders as they seem too good to be true (apart from the issues some have had)... just curious about the durability as everyone is, but wonder if this new model has upgraded in that respect...

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzhtwrmB-60

    A decent video comparing the 3 Sette models. Seems pretty impressive grinding accuracy on the 270Wi. Only time will tell how durable they are though!
    V.tempted to upgrade.....
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    Tampit has been advising people for a long time that the Sette is not an improvement on the Mahlkonig Vario.

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    Iím keen on the Wi upgrade kit for my W.
    Just to be able to weigh direct into the portafilter which it currently wonít do accurately.
    Itís 99% accurate into the container.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erimus View Post
    Tampit has been advising people for a long time that the Sette is not an improvement on the Mahlkonig Vario.
    I had a Vario (non w) and loved it. The sette W doesnt seem to retain as much coffee & changing the grind is easier. Iím able to easily replicate what we produce at work.

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    That old chestnut, grind retention. It's a bit of obsession and can lead people to the wrong grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erimus View Post
    That old chestnut, grind retention. It's a bit of obsession and can lead people to the wrong grinder.
    Not that the Vario held much compared to many. But I feel better about not having to waste much coffee.

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    I emailed Five Senses 25/06/18 and the display boards for the wi upgrade is due August. Five Senses will offer an upgrade service for around $100 supplied and fitted to upgrade the 270w. I'm also thinking about this but secondly wonder what were missing out on in regards to upgrade vs an actual new 270wi grinder which I wont be buying but curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erimus View Post
    That old chestnut, grind retention. It's a bit of obsession and can lead people to the wrong grinder.
    Yep! to some of us grind retention is an obsession.

    Fact of life! most grinders retain a small amount of ground coffee, most of us learn to work within the limitations of our particular grinder and go on the make excellent coffee, others I suspect are seeking Nirvana, it will be a lifelong quest, sadly, never to be realised.

    As a matter of interest, I single dose my grinder (by weight) and waste virtually no coffee.
    Last edited by Yelta; 6th July 2018 at 04:35 PM.
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    ^^^
    I'm the same, weigh dose and then clean out shute with a small brush. It's no big deal.

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    I think grind by weight is not good. The grind setting needs to be finer. So the grind must be changing mid grind because no beans to fill the burrs.

    Edit. I mean single dose not grind by weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackster View Post
    I think grind by weight is not good. The grind setting needs to be finer. So the grind must be changing mid grind because no beans to fill the burrs.
    Definitely effects the grind

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatBoy View Post
    I’m keen on the Wi upgrade kit for my W.
    Just to be able to weigh direct into the portafilter which it currently won’t do accurately.
    It’s 99% accurate into the container.
    I also found this. The vibrations of the machine are magnified by the portafilter handle sticking out. It bounces up and down and upsets the scales.
    So to cure this i grind into a thai curry paste jar, this is a correct size to fit just inside my basket. Put basket on top of jar of grinds and invert to empty. Perfect!
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    I just use the supplied hopper. Cures the two grind problem at the same time.
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    Heya guys, I finally got a Baratza Sette 270Wi, loving it! Still playing around with it, getting alot of bitterness in my lattes for some reason... but may be my roast.

    Anyway I was wondering if anyone here has found if any settings equal to each other in combination. I'll try and explain haha.

    Is for example setting 12I the same or slightly finer than 13A?

    Say you want to go coarser, but you're already at the end of the micro-adjuster, you would obviously go one notch coarser on the macro and wind down the micro to A. Because you're winding both notches in opposite directions (macro coarser, micro finer) I wonder what happens there..

    I guess I'll just give that a go if that's the case, just curious if anyone found any settings to be the same.
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    Also did any of you guys have any inconsistent extractions in the early days of use? Just not sure whether it needs more coffee through the burrs as I didn't really 'season' them. Did anyone notice at what point it starts to 'settle down'? Have never had a conical burr grinder so whether it takes a different amount of time than flat burr I'm not sure.

    First shot was 22.5g in, 40.5g out in 34s
    Second shot 22.5g in, 43g out in 28.7s

    And these coffees were ok but not overly nice, the last few days they've been beautiful


    Edit: Just saw a thread on another forum where they had this happen with their Sette, and they talked to Baratza directly who said yep this is normal as the burrs get seasoned.*So I may just have been a bit eager . May run about a kilo of old beans through

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsk8r View Post
    Heya guys, I finally got a Baratza Sette 270Wi, loving it! Still playing around with it, getting alot of bitterness in my lattes for some reason... but may be my roast.

    Anyway I was wondering if anyone here has found if any settings equal to each other in combination. I'll try and explain haha.

    Is for example setting 12I the same or slightly finer than 13A?

    I never did get that bit worked out.
    Mine took a few weeks for the grind to settle it. I was gradually grinding finer until a ran off the end of the finest setting. Then I put both shims in (really needed only 1) and then was grinding out near the 12s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackster View Post
    I never did get that bit worked out.
    Mine took a few weeks for the grind to settle it. I was gradually grinding finer until a ran off the end of the finest setting. Then I put both shims in (really needed only 1) and then was grinding out near the 12s.
    Ah yep fair enough, I'll have a play with it and see what settings equal what. Actually today I'm purging through a bunch of beans, I'll test out what changes happen from say 13A to 12I

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    Posted my review of the 270Wi if anyone here was interested:

    https://coffeesnobs.com.au/grinders/...tte-270wi.html
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    I've just purchased this grinder and a Lelit Mara. I am a total noob, doing a barista course in a couple weeks and will hopefully learn a bit then. I know beans and humidity seems to have some impact but generally speaking what grind setting are people using for espresso?
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    I tend to aim for around 60ml in 30 seconds as a starting point. I then tend to switch to grams in/grams out which is easy to manage with the weight based dosing of this grinder. I can't tell you the setting on the 270wi though as I think it tends to vary from grinder to grinder and whether shims have been installed or not. Also bean roast etc will make a fair difference. I think I'm on macro 6 or 7 personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny123 View Post
    I've just purchased this grinder and a Lelit Mara. I am a total noob, doing a barista course in a couple weeks and will hopefully learn a bit then. I know beans and humidity seems to have some impact but generally speaking what grind setting are people using for espresso?
    G'day benny123. Straight out the box and even now still, the grind setting on my 270Wi has always been around 12D to 12G. Depends on the bean for sure. Haven't installed any shims or anything.



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