View Poll Results: How quickly do you expect an electric grinder to grind 18 grams of beans.

Voters
44. You may not vote on this poll
  • Nanosecond.

    2 4.55%
  • 5 seconds

    11 25.00%
  • 10 seconds.

    12 27.27%
  • 20 seconds

    3 6.82%
  • 30 seconds.

    0 0%
  • Doesn't matter, I'm in no hurry.

    16 36.36%
Results 1 to 21 of 21
Like Tree18Likes
  • 3 Post By Yelta
  • 3 Post By kwantfm
  • 1 Post By Melbroaster
  • 2 Post By Logga
  • 2 Post By trentski
  • 3 Post By Dimal
  • 1 Post By wattgn
  • 1 Post By TC
  • 1 Post By wattgn
  • 1 Post By Dimal

Thread: Grinders and speed.

  1. #1
    Senior Member Yelta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Moonta SA.
    Posts
    6,889

    Grinders and speed.

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Seems much of the discussion re various grinders focuses on speed, if it won't grind 20 grams of beans in a nanosecond it ain't worth crap

    I'm wondering just how important speed of grind is to the average home user.

    Will attempt to post a poll with a few options.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    722
    I used a large hand grinder for espresso for years... grind speed is of zero concern for this user.
    deegee, magnafunk and kevinang3 like this.

  3. #3
    Senior Member magnafunk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    East Kimberley
    Posts
    546
    For me Yelta, it's not the time spent waiting for the coffee to grind, it's the 30 seconds of grinding noise at 6 in the morning that bugs me. Admittedly, the fact that I have a vibe pump running for a further 30 seconds makes it somewhat inconsequential, I will one day replace my machine with a quieter one, at which stage I won't need to upgrade my grinder (unless I come up with a really great excuse)

    Edit: felt I should clarify, I don't have a grinder that takes 30 seconds, it takes about 3.3 and I could never go back !
    Last edited by magnafunk; 26th September 2016 at 05:30 PM.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    707
    Grind quality over speed any day of the week
    ChrisINfnq likes this.

  5. #5
    Senior Member Logga's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Napier, New Zealand
    Posts
    328
    Quote Originally Posted by Melbroaster View Post
    Grind quality over speed any day of the week
    Well, you can have both
    Dimal and Magic_Matt like this.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Stan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Just North of Brisbane
    Posts
    943
    My Mazzer Mini takes about 45 seconds for two doubles. By the time I have filled one the next is nearly for the next. I make to double shots of espresso each morning and all up it takes about 4-5 minutes so the speed of the grinder doesn't really matter. However I am thinking of upgrading as I am going to gift the old Mazzer(about 6-7 years) to another family member who is starting the coffee journey. Sounds like a good reason to upgrade

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    707
    My M7D grinds 18 grams in 3.6 seconds. If you told me that I could exchange it for a motorised grinder that would make considerably better coffee but would take 1 min to grind the shot it would be off my bench before you could finish your sentence.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    1,072
    Quote Originally Posted by Logga View Post
    Well, you can have both
    At least the Flintstones had a little dinosaur in their appliances to do the hard work.

    Here is a picture of an early espresso grinder. The monkey is there to eat then shit the coffee beans out which are then made into coffee and sold to passersby. The machine also plays music for entertainment while grinding the beans (which lets face it is rather boring and time consuming). The idea was the precursor to the civet bean munching monkeys in Indonesia. An early version of Kopi Luwak.

    My apologies, I finally couldn't help myself.

    A bit of monkey business to entertain...
    Attached Images Attached Images

  9. #9
    Senior Member trentski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Altona, Melbourne
    Posts
    1,581
    Give me 10 seconds of noise over 20 any day. The vibe pump in my Rocket Giotto is a whisper by comparison.
    K3 elite wbc grinder at the moment but when I have the money I'll be going up to a 10 second doserless grinder
    Dimal and matth3wh like this.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    254
    Assuming the same grind quality, I would take low noise over speed any day of the week.
    All conversation stops while my grinder does its thing.
    It may only be for 25 second bursts but still a PITA.
    One day I'd love a HG-1

  11. #11
    Mal Dimal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Warwick, QLD
    Posts
    16,878
    Love my Kony-E...
    Both quiet and quick...

    Mal.
    JohnA, Logga and magnafunk like this.

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    1,072
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Love my Kony-E...
    Both quiet and quick...

    Mal.
    Admit it you'd be happier if you ripped the motor out and put a hand crank in.

    After that mod drill a hole in your iPhone 7 for the speaker jack
    Casa Espresso likes this.

  13. #13
    Mal Dimal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Warwick, QLD
    Posts
    16,878
    Not likely....

    Mal.

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    390
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Love my Kony-E...
    Both quiet and quick...

    Mal.
    same here, cant see myself getting anything else for a very long time

  15. #15
    TC
    TC is offline
    .
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    14,665
    From a Talk Coffee perspective, it's not so much about speed, rather value within a price category.

    Loved my Kony-E which has now been replaced with a faster, but messier E-10. It was an aesthetics thing for me. Not a zac of difference in the cup and an always on fan as well in the E-10. It's getting a gag this week.
    Dimal likes this.

  16. #16
    Member Boggas's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Posts
    58
    For my next grinder, the amount of mess produced is going to be high up on the wish list. I could definitely sacrifice some grind speed to have less mess to clean up afterwards..... but I do keep my gear meticulously clean

  17. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    1,072
    Grinders always make a mess.

    Pods are tidy.

  18. #18
    Member Boggas's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Posts
    58
    Quote Originally Posted by wattgn View Post
    Grinders always make a mess.

    Pods are tidy.
    Some make more mess than others.

    And no thanks on the pods, although applying that logic they definitely have the fastest grind time too

  19. #19
    kbc
    kbc is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    2,960
    Quote Originally Posted by wattgn View Post
    Pods are tidy.
    Please keep the P word off of this forum. Grrrrr

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Perth
    Posts
    1,072
    Quote Originally Posted by Boggas View Post
    Some make more mess than others.

    And no thanks on the pods, although applying that logic they definitely have the fastest grind time too
    I did vote for a nano second grind. It may be that the future is just to fill the portafilter with beans then put the portafiler in the grind chamber where they turn in just a nanosecond into a perfect grind with an ideal size distribution and no clumping....

    The excess energy issue is taken care of by a shift backwards in the time/space matrix, simultaneously absorbing the energy and making the 10 second time to complete the destruction seem like a nanosecond.
    trentski likes this.

  21. #21
    Mal Dimal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Warwick, QLD
    Posts
    16,878
    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    It was an aesthetics thing for me. Not a zac of difference in the cup and an always on fan as well in the E-10. It's getting a gag this week.
    Can understand that mate...
    With that beautiful Slayer on the bench, what sits next to it has got to "fit"....

    Mal.
    readeral likes this.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •