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    What Grinder or new Machine? - (Newbie)

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Ok ive been scouring these forums for a while & through my readings decided to buy a grinder to go with the Gaggia Classic ive had for 2 years - using preground! (sorry)
    I got a Sunbeam E0480 looked OK, rated well enough here, good price............But
    on the Coarsest setting the coffee choked the Gaggia no matter what i did.
    So my local Retra gave me a second one *to try
    Same thing, set on about 24 the grind was just too fine & not much finer on 5
    I even tried some 3 yo beens so not to waste the new stuuf
    They ground OK on 20 but i wouldnt drink it! :-/
    So that one went back & now Im Grinderless again.
    Im thinking of buying
    1. Ascaso I2
    2. Rocky
    3. Compak K3 elite
    OR
    a NEW machine vis:
    1. Lelit Combi
    2. Silvia/Rocky
    3. ?? suggestions ??
    I only make 4 cups a day, 2 morning 2 Arvo so its it bit hard to justify $1200
    but only a bit! ;)

    Thanks. Love the site!!

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    Re: What Grinder or new Machine? - (Newbie)

    Hi, and welcome to the site!

    The Ascaso I2 is a great little grinder for the money, however stocks are thin on the ground at the moment. I have been told to expect ascaso conicals back in stock in about a month ... which probably means six weeks ;P If you can find one, snap it up.

    The Compak K3 Elite looks very promising, with stepless grind adjustment and what seems to be quite high quality construction. We have been keeping our eye on it for quite some time and hope to make a decision on stocking it this week. I think that Chris from Talk Coffee currently has them in stock.

    I owned a Rocky for a few years and, personally, found the stepped adjustment to be too limiting. Others have reported that they dont find it a problem. You will have to make your own decision on that.

    Whilst the machines in this class are different, I dont think that you would get much bang for your buck by selling your gaggia to move to another machine. Getting a good quality grinder will probably help more. The one thing that might be worth looking into is getting a rancilio silvia steam wand to retrofit to your machine. (Note that this is a modification that I have never performed, only seen reported, so you should take care to inform yourself of the possible risks, if any.)

    I hope that helps,

    Luca

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    Hi Visat and welcome to CS!

    If your machine is working correctly and youre happy with it, there is no need to replace it. A Silvia will work in a similar way to the Gaggia, so Id suggest that you stick with the Gaggia.

    Re the Grinder, all of those you have mentioned will do the job and very competently. All have compromises as well. Their are positives and negatives of both doser and doserless strategies. Buy the best grinder you can afford.

    Do you need to grind for plunger or will it just be used for espresso?

    Luca (of Veneziano Coffee) is the guy to speak with regarding the Ascaso. We stock all of the others mentioned and in addition have a few discounted Macap M5s- even better than the Compak IMHO...

    Regardless of your choice, you will find a wealth of information and advice here.

    Good luck!

    2mcm

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    Re: What Grinder or new Machine? - (Newbie)

    Hahaha ... Chris; we must have been typing at the same time!

    Chris made the very good point that I forgot to mention about switching between grind types. Basically, there are three adjustment types:

    Stepped: The collar can be rotated around to various indented positions, where it is locked in place. (eg. Rancilio, Sunbeam, some Macaps)

    Worm drive: The collar is rotated freely by twisting a knob to turn it. One turn of the knob usually results in quite a small grind change. (eg. Ascaso, Iberital, some Macaps)

    Floating collar: The collar is twisted freely by hand. (eg. Mazzer, Compak ... although the Mazzer adjustment and the Compak adjustment mechanisms are slightly different in that the Mazzer collar is held in place with springs)

    If you want to switch between espresso and another preparation method, you will probably want to look at stepped and floating collar adjustment mechanisms as the worm drive requires a lot of turning. If you want to dial in your espresso perfectly, you will probably be more interested in floating collar and worm drive mechanisms (presuming that you are of the opinion that fixed stepped adjustment can be too limiting).

    Cheers,

    Luca

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    Re: What Grinder or new Machine? - (Newbie)

    Visat - stick with your classic, the issue is the grinder. The EM480 is just not up to the standard the Classic requires.

    Also you need to try updosing your double basket as the coffee once tamped needs to touch the screw on the shower screen.

    Another tip is to get a very good quality Tamper - it will make the world of difference.

    If you have any questions re the classic, feel free to pm me as I have had mine a number of years and it is a great machine once you work out its little idiosyncrases.

    Good luck

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    Re: What Grinder or new Machine? - (Newbie)

    Hey all thanks for the quick replies.
    I will only be grinding for espresso so need a grinder to suit the Gaggia.
    Thanks Lucinda i will PM you, my Tamper is the Gaggia one, not even the right size it seems.
    Right, now to decide which grinder & into it!

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    Re: What Grinder or new Machine? - (Newbie)

    After some searching i now have a nice new Gaggia MDF grinder.....Happy Birthday to me & thanks to my missus for that one!
    Big thanks to Coffee Parts for a great new Tamper & Gasket - (Thanks Lucinda for info)
    & to Renzo at Di Bartoli for a Silvia wand to fit my Classic

    These changes have made a Massive difference to my coffee...............now im a bit hooked i am starting to get upgradeitis!! ::)
    The David Makin/Giotto/Minore look really nice!!

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    Re: What Grinder or new Machine? - (Newbie)

    Quote Originally Posted by VISAT link=1183461160/0#6 date=1188800010
    After some searching i now have a nice new Gaggia MDF grinder.....Happy Birthday to me & thanks to my missus for that one!
    Big thanks to Coffee Parts for a great new Tamper & Gasket - (Thanks Lucinda for info)
    & to Renzo at Di Bartoli for a Silvia wand to fit my Classic

    These changes have made a Massive difference to my coffee...............now im a bit hooked i am starting to get upgradeitis!! *::)
    The David Makin/Giotto/Minore look really nice!!
    Well purchased Visat...Congrats!

    Makin and Minore are both great machines- yet dramatically different in philosophy. The new spec. Makin has just arrived and the Minore is an improved machine with revised Australian spec. controller board and thermostat. Look very closely at the VBM Domobar Super as well if/when the time comes. As for Giotto, there will be none until at least mid-November....

    Chris

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    Re: What Grinder or new Machine? - (Newbie)

    Congratulations VISAT and happy birthday. Yu will be vary happy with all your new toys.

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    Re: What Grinder or new Machine? - (Newbie)

    Good one VISAT , I had problems with my em0480,not fine enough for Silvia after only 2 months & even though I cleaned & looked after it, the grinder was still not up to par.
    So I did the same thing & got the gaggia mdf on friday. Now I grind on 7 & adjust tamp & it makes a big difference. If only they had a doserless version
    sigh, but very happy & I know you will be too!

    Good luck & there is a lot of good info & tweaks about this grinder
    on this site & others.

    Ps make sure you adjust grind setting only with grinder running, apparently a lot of problems with the em0480 were with adjustments being made with grinder off.



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