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Thread: Recommendation for grinder up to $1000 with removable hopper

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    Recommendation for grinder up to $1000 with removable hopper

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    I'd like to be able easily to swap out beans so am after suggestions for grinders up to $1000. I prefer doserless. Grinder use will be initially for plunger coffee. I am looking to purchase an espresso machine also in the near future. Thanks
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    Thanks Paul. To be more specific, I'm after a grinder where you can quickly take off the hopper to change beans rather than empty the whole grinder upside down. I anticipate using two different types of beans on a daily basis.

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    Welcome C'nooby...

    Definitely worth your while to drop into your local specialist retailers, if possible. and demo a few grinders that occupy that space within your budget - Lots to choose from at this price point so difficult to make a recommendation. Site Sponsor "Dimattina Coffee" should be able to help you out...

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    Another option to think about - at your price point you'll be looking at planar burr grinders.

    Nothing whatsoever wrong with that, but assuming you're planning on running a blend for milk-based espresso and SOs, you might consider looking at an espresso-capable hand grinder. I switched from a commercial doser conical to planar, and wouldn't really recommend using one to switch between blend and SOs for a few reasons (which I can go into if you're interested, but the big ones are that you'll have a fair bit of wastage dialing in twice daily and grinding through residual beans in the grinder throat, which is unavoidable with any design afaict).

    That being said, as others have said there are many options in this price range; everyone will most likely recommend the one they have so your best bet is to decide on what features you need, which are nice-to-have and what you want to rule out. To get you started, have a think about your workflow - do you want to grind directly into the portafilter, is a digital timer essential, do you plan to weigh your doses, are you happy to hold the portafilter while grinding or do you want hands-free operation etc. Then narrow down a shortlist based on those features.
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    Buy two grinders. You are going to go through a lot of beans adjusting for espresso after every change of bean. Slower brewing methods wont be as much of an issue though.

    You can single dose any grinder easily enough but will waste beans getting rid of retained coffee grinds.

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    Sette fits the bill
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    Thanks for the responses guys ��. After looking at the Rancilio Rocky I thought it was common for the hopper to be fixed but it seems that is the exception rather than the rule. I'll head off to Dimattina today to look at their range and will also look into other site sponsor offerings. Is there any disadvantage in buying equipment from retailers in other states? Two grinders (one will be used only for decaf) seems the way to go. I'll also research the sette
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    Quote Originally Posted by herzog View Post
    Sette fits the bill
    Herzog do you think the sette will grind coarsely enough for plunger coffee? Do you have one? Is it messy? If you have one what espresso machine do you have it paired with?

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    The Sette can grind for plunger, but it has probably too many fines. You would need to sift it to get a cleaner cup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    Buy two grinders. You are going to go through a lot of beans adjusting for espresso after every change of bean. Slower brewing methods wont be as much of an issue though.

    You can single dose any grinder easily enough but will waste beans getting rid of retained coffee grinds.
    I agree. We recently sold a customer two grinders who was originally looking for a grinder he could swap out the hoppers on. By the time you adjust for beans and get it dialled in for the new blend you may have well spent the money wasted on beans on a second grinder.

    In this case the customer purchase an ATOM as his main grinder an M2M for decaf.

    There are a few names that immediately come to mind for grinders sub circa $500 that would fit your requirements.

    Id suggest in no order Rocky, K3 , M2M or Eureka Mignon

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    Thanks all for your input. I decided to start making espresso straight away (life is too short eh?), so bought a Rancilio Silvia and Baratza Sette 270. The affordability of the Sette made it possible to stretch my budget and buy the Silvia. I know it's an entry level machine, but it's apparently a good little unit and there seems to be a considerable increase in price to the next tier of machines. Have only seen u tube vids of the Sette, but looked good (a lil different?) and hopefully marries well with the Silvia in an aesthetic sense. Ive also purchased a better tamper than the plastic one that came with the Silvia, a knock box, ss jug, cleaning stuff and rubber mat. Prolly need a lil brush thingy to clean the group head (would a toothbrush suffice?). Do I need anything else? Ordered five senses beans (Dark Horse) which will arrive with the grinder early next week. I'll post a pic of the Silvia and Sette together if anyone is interested?
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    ...and here is the setup...
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    I find the double basket a lil small for 2 cups at once. Think I'll buy a Rancilio Silvia naked portafilter which comes with a larger basket. Is this a common upgrade?

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    Lookin' good "Coffeenooby"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeenooby View Post
    I find the double basket a lil small for 2 cups at once. Think I'll buy a Rancilio Silvia naked portafilter which comes with a larger basket. Is this a common upgrade?
    Hi Jenny,

    Nice setup there. I purchased a precision double basket for $20 from Talk Coffee. It works great with the original Silvia handle and I can get 20 to 22 grams in. I find it's really improved the taste.

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    Perfect! Thanks cfeo! I'll get one of those 👌👍

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    All I can say is that I own both the 'true precision' baskets (i.e. VST) and the Espresso Precision (EP) basket. Both work fine, when you dial everything in. The EP is far more sympathetic to minor variations in grind.....and they are what I use on a day to day basis.
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    Same here. I have IMS, VST, la marzocco and EP. EP are easily the most forgiving to use daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfeo View Post
    Hi Jenny,

    Nice setup there. I purchased a precision double basket for $20 from Talk Coffee. It works great with the original Silvia handle and I can get 20 to 22 grams in. I find it's really improved the taste.

    cfeo
    Just confirming that I order a medium and not a triple basket?
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    I'm a former VST guy and now an IMS / Pesado basket guy, but considering advice above, EP certainly seems worth a try.
    I'm certainly not in the anti-VST camp. But with regularly changing beans, and with the Mrs making a coffee or 2 each day (and let us just say that attention to detail is not so high on the agenda), the EP is much more forgiving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeenooby View Post
    Just confirming that I order a medium and not a triple basket?
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    Can't tell from an active link Jenny; what does your receipt say?

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    Hey Mal, I haven't ordered it yet, just checking which size I should get.
    Jenny

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    I guess it comes down to how rich a brew you prefer....
    Me, I use the Triple Basket 100% of the time and love it.
    No need for the Triple though, the Double is also excellent and will satisfy all but the geekiest CSers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Hi Jenny & cfeo,
    True precision baskets (laser-cut and ridgeless) (eg, IMS and VST) are generally $40-$45.
    Good hunting.
    Cheers, Paul
    Hi Paul,

    Yes, I'm aware of the higher price for the VST and IMS baskets. The precision one from Talk Coffee is also ridgeless and laser-cut.

    All, Here's a photo of the standard Silvia and the precision basket.



    Precision basket on the left in both photos with standard double on the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeenooby View Post
    Just confirming that I order a medium and not a triple basket?
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    Hi Jenny,

    I got the double. I've heard the triple won't fit the standard handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeenooby View Post
    Perfect! Thanks cfeo! I'll get one of those
    You're welcome Jenny!

    This forum has really helped me improve my coffee knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfeo View Post
    Hi Jenny,

    I got the double. I've heard the triple won't fit the standard handle.

    cfeo
    Yes, that is correct. The EP triple basket is too deep for most traditional portafilters. I don't use mine much, but if I do it has to be with the naked (bottomless) portafilter
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Cyclists have a saying... "How many bikes is enough? ...one more."
    Could be the same with grinders. I hope so. That would boost sales a little
    Hey Paul, I'm also a cyclist so that really resonates with me. I have 4 bikes ;-)

    Jenny (aka stop me now before I buy a roaster)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeenooby View Post
    Just confirming that I order a medium and not a triple basket?
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    Sorry Javaphile I should have checked sponsorship xx



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