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Thread: Eureka Atom, Macap M4D, Compak E5 OD - which one to choose?

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    Eureka Atom, Macap M4D, Compak E5 OD - which one to choose?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hi Everyone, I've been looking at getting a new machine and grinder, and scrolling through the hundreds of threads on here to get a better understanding of how they work and what is good, bad, and ugly.
    I can't afford the whole package at the moment, so I've decided to get a grinder first and a machine later on.
    Budget is about 1K.
    I would be drinking 1-2 a day, mostly espresso, occasionally latte.
    I want something that is going to last a lifetime, so have ruled out anything that has questionable reviews on durability.
    I don't have the most amount of bench space, so have stuck with smaller grinders.
    My preference is for doserless, and programmable times for 1/2cups.
    Ideally a worm drive or something similar for easily making small adjustments
    After searching and reading until my keyboard is worn out, my shortlist is currently: Eureka Atom, Macap M4D, Compak E5 OD

    Now for the questions….

    Are there any major differences between these I am missing? (besides the quietness of the Atom)
    Do I need to delve deeper into the grind consistency, clumping, messiness, grind retention… or are they all fairly comparable so not going to make a huge difference?
    Given all of the above, is there one that you would recommend over the others? Why?
    At risk of opening a can of worms, is there something else I should consider because it is markedly better than these?

    I have a Fiorenzato e4-nano and Mazzer Mini E at work, and both are quality grinders, but trying to dial right in can be hard to get the sweet spot because you have to manually move the collar and they tend to jump a bit. So have ruled them out in favour of worm-drive adjustable grinders.

    Thanks in advance,
    Witherz
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    I can vouch for the purchase of an Atom.

    I've had mine for a few weeks now and I think it's wonderful.

    - Excellent fluffy grind that is tastes awesome in the cup and is incredibly easy to distribute without much effort - I previously had a Super Jolly Electronic which took 45-60 seconds to properly distribute in order to get a decent extraction....

    - Incredibly quiet

    - Solid construction and easily cleaned

    - Grind adjustment is dead simple and works a treat

    You really can't go wrong with the ATOM. I'm in the same boat as you drinking espresso mostly. I do wish it had less grind retention, but if you're not single dosing, the ATOM will fit the bill.

    Casa Espresso is your best bet when buying one - best price in AUS for the grinder.

    Cheeers.

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    We have an Atom and M4D demo side by side on the demo bench.

    Feel free to come into our showroom to compare.

    The Atom is certainly my pick of the bunch

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    What if you’re a single doser?

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    Hello..
    I too can vouch for the Atom - never used the other so can't compare, but I am loving the ease and quietness of the Atom. Produces consistently good grinds, on the money in terms of weight in the basket and I only add a small amount of beans each time so whilst not single dosing as such I am not having beans sat around in the hopper for a day or so.

    I can find I can just over fill the little chute that goes to the burrs and there is no impact the end result in the cup.

    One thing I will say is to completely ignore the numbers on the dial, they bear no relation to the actual grind setting. I simply use the numbers as a reference to remember where I am rather than an actual setting of 1 or 2 etc.

    No matter what you end up with you will be happy.

    Good luck.
    Alastair

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    I replaced a Compak K6 with the Eureka Atom and after 6 weeks I am really happy with it for all the reasons stated above. Got mine from Casa Espresso.

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    Thought I would provide an update... all be it 12 months later...
    I eventually went with one of the new Eureka Mignon grinders, the Specialita. It's quiet, small size, still built like a tank, and nice fluffy grinds. I like the timed grinding and fine adjustments, lets me keep things consistent with very minor adjustments.
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    Glad you're enjoying your Eureka Specialita.

    Certainly a good sized grinder for home and the quiet helps keep peace with those sleeping nearby :-)

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    Hello. I am in the market for a new grinder and was looking at the Eureka atom and the ECM automatik 64. I've read a bit about the atom but theres not many reviews on the ecm. Does anyone know the quality of ecm? Thank you

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    Have just noticed the Specialita can be had for a very good price direct from Italy, was considering the Atom but I do like the compact size of the Specialita and can't argue with the price. Still fairly happy with my Sunbeam for now so won't jump on it just yet, I am watching for a good buy on the sale forum as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by javameister View Post
    Have just noticed the Specialita can be had for a very good price direct from Italy, was considering the Atom but I do like the compact size of the Specialita and can't argue with the price. Still fairly happy with my Sunbeam for now so won't jump on it just yet, I am watching for a good buy on the sale forum as well.
    What is the Italian website that will ship to Australia?

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    Sent you a PM.

    Read lots of good reports, decided to pull the trigger.
    Last edited by javameister; 6th March 2019 at 11:09 PM.

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    Eureka Atom, Macap M4D, Compak E5 OD - which one to choose?

    I guess it is an interesting proposition / option for home gear ...

    You’d have to weigh up if the cheapness of overseas purchase + potential duty is worth it compared with buying within AU and being covered by consumer law and supporting local businesses. Also, potential shipping delays to factor in whether or not you’re in a rush?

    How does warranty work with Eureka if in the unlikely event there is an issue?

    Good to support the locals and CS sponsors when we can
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    I will certainly be supporting the sponsors where I can with bean and accessories purchases. Starting to think the Sunbeam is not quite up to par and not keen to spend $1k+ at the moment on a grinder, so couldn't resist this after reading positive reports and comparing the price difference.

    Local warranty is usually a priority for me but the way I see it is a grinder can't have too much go wrong/can't be fixed.

    Watched loads of Eureka reviews and it suits my needs perfectly: small, quiet, good looking, well built and good performance. It is due for delivery on Tuesday, looking forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by javameister View Post
    Watched loads of Eureka reviews and it suits my needs perfectly: small, quiet, good looking, well built and good performance. It is due for delivery on Tuesday, looking forward to it.
    Exciting stuff to look forward to very soon... Enjoy the quiet and compact grinder.

    Hopefully we will get to hear how you find it vs the Sunnybeam.

    Hope this takes your coffee to a new level too
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    I received my Eureka Atom 75 a couple months ago from Europe, and I'm loving it! Got it with the blow up system and red speed burrs. Grinds 22g in 4-5 seconds. Even particle sized grinds, quiet operation, low retention (less than 2g after cleaning out). Can't ask for much more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    I guess it is an interesting proposition / option for home gear ...

    You’d have to weigh up if the cheapness of overseas purchase + potential duty is worth it compared with buying within AU and being covered by consumer law and supporting local businesses. Also, potential shipping delays to factor in whether or not you’re in a rush?

    How does warranty work with Eureka if in the unlikely event there is an issue?

    Good to support the locals and CS sponsors when we can
    Its a role of the dice with duty and GST on individual shipments from overseas.
    Sometimes it gets through, sometimes it doesn't and you get a nasty surprise to get the goods released.

    No Australian warranty for products privately imported.

    Two year warranty on Eureka grinders purchased through Australian resellers.

    Great little grinder though, a great upgrade over the Sunbeam


    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post

    Two year warranty on Eureka grinders purchased through Australian resellers.

    Great little grinder though, a great upgrade over the Sunbeam
    A few months back I told a friend to get in touch with you Antony to upgrade his home grinder.

    Immediately thought of this grinder / Eureka option for the quiet and compact size.

    Hopefully he will be in touch.

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    Hoping that the grinder does make a noticeable difference in the cup. Years ago the EM0480 had a pretty good reputation and it has served me fine, but I was mainly using it for french press and an occasional shot on my old Sunbeam with pressurised baskets (the quality of which I now realize was very average indeed). The biggest annoyance with the EM0480 is the amount of mess it makes, coffee goes everywhere and it also retains quite a lot of grounds. I am definitely looking forward to the quietness and timed dosing on the Specialita, and it should be a bit less messy too. I do think the EM0480 is a pretty good grinder overall especially at its price, and I will be keeping it for french press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by javameister View Post
    Hoping that the grinder does make a noticeable difference in the cup.
    ...
    I am definitely looking forward to the quietness and timed dosing on the Specialita, and it should be a bit less messy too. I do think the EM0480 is a pretty good grinder overall especially at its price, and I will be keeping it for french press.
    Oh I think you’re in for a very very pleasant surprise

    My father in law is custodian of my old EM0480.

    Circa ...?
    I don’t know how old now. Maybe it’s 9-10 years old now and still working away with his EM7000.
    Probably could use some new burrs. Teehee.

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    It arrived! What a beautiful grinder, so much better looking than the Sunbeam. Very quiet, much less messy (although still get some spillover near the end, can't avoid it I guess) and easy to adjust. Love it. Pulled a few shots and they were pretty good, still might need to do a bit more adjusting and get the timer right. I also want to get a set of scales so I can weigh the grinds/basket etc. But it definitely makes a difference and is much nicer to use. Can't fault the service from the shop I bought it off, ordered it late Wednesday evening and it turned up Monday afternoon from Italy.

    The only thing is, I can't plug both the grinder and my timer (which the machine is connected to) in at the same time as the adaptor is very bulky. Will have to try and find a short extension lead or something.
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    Great setup you’ve got there Javameister

    Worthwhile getting those scales to know what you’re getting in to your basket.
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    Awesome setup Javameister! You’ll be pulling some nice shots.
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    looks good Javameister.



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