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Thread: Etzinger EtzMAX

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    Etzinger EtzMAX

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    Happened across this grinder that is in development at the moment.

    The Etzinger EtzMAX. Apparently these guys worked with Baratza on the Sette 270w.

    Looks like they are basically building what a lot of people want which is a more substantial and top end version of the same Sette 270w design. Heavy body, more reliable scales, butter group handle holder.

    Will be interesting to see how the final machine is reviewed and what the final price is.

    The Sette 270w is a great grinder that is hampered by a few flaws, mostly related to it being built to a price point.

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    Well, it is "based upon profound knowledge in aeronautical engineering" so it is bound to take off.

    Sorry.

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    Really excited for this grinder. A better Sette is exactly what i want at home

    I think it looks baller too

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    There is a 270wi available, or just a board to upgrade the w.

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    Pretty cool, but the price is insane. "€ 1500,00 - € 2100,00 net"

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    There is a 'light' ie low volume version due late 2018 €1080!

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    For what it's worth, I got to see this in the flesh today; hit the button and ground and pulled all of one shot. It is incredibly fast, quiet, clean and seems to dose to within 0.1g. The looks are what they are - you can see for yourself and you'll either love it or hate it. The one thing that I don't like about it is that the "start" grinding button - as in the button you press every time you use it - is a tiny button, same as the buttons for changing various settings (I assume). If you have to hit that button every time you grind a shot, I think it would be much better to have that as a big button that is satisfying to pound.

    I wasn't familiar with the coffee or the espresso machine and so have no idea what the actual grind quality is like, nor did I play with the grind settings, so I actually have basically no useful information to contribute. But hopefully the above was of interest to someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luca View Post
    The one thing that I don't like about it is that the "start" grinding button - as in the button you press every time you use it - is a tiny button, same as the buttons for changing various settings (I assume). If you have to hit that button every time you grind a shot, I think it would be much better to have that as a big button that is satisfying to pound.
    You mean like this??

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51NYEJ-R5KA
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    Looks like a really neat machine for home use. Nice weighing feature, Not too big, easy to clean, easy to change beans. May not need to single dose.

    I like the looks too, in a functional rather than pretty way. Iíll have s bit more of s look at this one.

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    Wink

    These grinders look to be fantastic. The Etzinger EtzMAX Light W which looks to be spec'd for home use at 60 shots / day mark seems to be going to sell in AU for around the $3200 mark
    With the Medium W for around $4200 rated for around 4kg / day.

    I love what these grinders can do and if money was no object the the Medium would be great. But until I have taxable incoming coming from this source I won't be buying either sadly.

    If you were so inclined you could buy 5x 270Wi grinders instead of the one Light W.
    To put it another way, that's 9x Sette 30's.

    I'm not sure if that's enough to fill an olympic swimming pool but it sure is a lot of coffee grinding.

    (insert clown emoji here)
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    Hi Matt,

    They're brilliant!

    I bit the bullet on a Medium W to replace my Compak E10 at home.

    It's quick, quiet, accurate, exceptionally well built and with near zero retention. It's also easy to clean.

    I have no regrets other than the fact that it's made in Liechtenstein and because of that they're so expensive!

    I have owned a heap of different grinders. This is a whole new world.

    edit: PS: fwiw I have also had a Sette. Noisy, inaccurate and it rapidly broke- as a good proportion of them do. I wouldn't swap the etzMAX for 5 Settes. In fact I wouldn't own one if paid to have it on my bench. Never again.
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    I saw the Etzinger at MICE yesterday. Very much industrial build quality: it looks like it will last at least 5 times as long as my Sette did.

    Caffeinator hits the nail on the head: I can't afford the Etzmax but I'd take it over any number of Settes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrebird View Post
    I saw the Etzinger at MICE yesterday.

    I'm going on Sat. which Stand / Exhibitor ?........ LB

    And which Model ?

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    I don't remember, sorry, but there are a lot of stands and I was there to do some research on methods used to achieve flow profiling so the grinder wasn't a main point of interest to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeeguy84 View Post
    I'm going on Sat. which Stand / Exhibitor ?........ LB

    And which Model ?
    Espresso Company Australia has a black medium W on their stand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caffeinator View Post
    Espresso Company Australia has a black medium W on their stand
    ThanK You Caffeinator, I know of ECA so I'll look them up.
    I had looked up the Exhibitor List but the page lacked any detail other than company name and logo.

    Cheers
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    After 13 happy years with my Anfim Best grinder I finally upgraded to the EtzMax Light W and have to agree with comments and reviews so far.
    The EztMax is in a different league to the Anfim Best so there is no point comparing the two.

    After 13 years of using a basic flat burr doser grinder what I like about the Etzmax is:
    -Infinite adjustment over a range of about 3mm vertical burr movement with a vernier type scale that allows you to read down to 0.01mm. It is amazing how much difference you get in the cup with just 0.01mm of movement. It was always frustrating when you knew the sweet spot for a grind was between two stops on the Anfim.
    -Dose to weight. No more guessing, motor stop starts and leaving behind grinds to go stale.
    -Quite and fast
    -Easy to clean. Pulling the burr set down on the Anfim was not fun and always avoided.
    -Designed by Engineers not by Sales and Marketing Profs. This means performance comes before looks and price rather than the other way round.
    -The owner/designer is proud enough to have his name branded on every machine.

    That is the experience so far but still early days and more sleepless caffeine induced nights ahead before I finish exploring the full range of capabilities (a consequence of infinite adjustment).
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    Hi all,

    It's been a very long time (about nine years) since I last posted here. Other distractions, setting up new businesses etc meant something had to give.

    I still kept my love of coffee and to that end I thought I'd log in again and post up my thoughts on the Etzmax.

    I recently set up a new machine and grinder for the workshop, which consisted of an Izzo Alex Duetto IV and an Etzmax W. At home at the time I had a Giotto and a Mazzer Kony E.

    The difference in grind between what I was getting at home and at the workshop was staggering. The notes that the Etzmax was able to pick up from the same coffee over the Kony E was so impressive that within three months I bought a second Etzmax W to replace the Kony E at home. So now my setup consists of

    Home: Etzmax W & Giotto

    Workshop: Etzmax W & Alex Duetto IV

    The workshop combo has the slight edge on the home setup in terms of what's in the cup, which is mostly due to the difference between the nine year old Giotto and less than twelve month old Duetto, but man these Etzmax units are epicly good. You absolutely pay serious money for them but I don't think I can ever go back now

    Anyway, my second crack worth. As Ferris Bueller says, "If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."

    Cheers

    Caff
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