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    Grinder Advice

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    Hi Guys,
    I'm buying a domestic coffee machine this week and want a suitable grinder to go with it.

    My Grinder budget is around $800-900 max.

    The grinder will only be used for espresso, mainly making 2-10 coffees per day.

    My dream would be a Rocket Fausto but that's obviously out of my budget. I have been suggested a Mazzer Mini, Baratza Sette 270, Quamar Q50E but I am struggling to make a decision as each and every one appears to have their pros/cons. Are there any others up to or within that price bracket that I should be considering?

    Ideally, the grinder would be polished or silver...

    Any help would be appreciated.

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    I have used Mazzer mini, Macap M4, Quamar Q50 for my Rocket machine at home, experience from first hand:
    Mazzer is built like a tank, has good re-sale value but grinds reeeeaaaaalllllly slllloooow (expect 30s to grind a double shot as a norm)
    Quamar Q50, build quality pretty decent (all metal unlike an consumer-appliance level grinder), aesthetically appealing on the bench, grinds pretty fast and consistent, but the grind adjustments aren't too fine for my need, great value for money
    Macap M4, build quality on par with Mazzer, my M4C doserless is designed to be a Deli bag grinder so has retention and clumping problems, but with a couple minor modifications it ticks all the boxes for my needs: fine adjustment with micro worm drive, fast grind speed (2g/sec), 0 retention for single dosing on demand.

    I also had a Rancilio Lucy which comes with a built-in Doserless Rocky that has some grind retention problem which is hard to fix.

    I've read and watched videos on the Baratza Sette 270W, it looks like a great machine with lots of great modern features, just not sure if it's built to last (only time will tell)

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    For this price I'd recommend Macap M4D.

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    Talk to the retailer you will be buying your new machine from and they might give you a discount for a machine + grinder bundle. Don't make the mistake of scrimping on the grinder as it will potentially contribute more to the quality of the coffee you make than the machine.

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    for that budget, i'd look into the decent pro grinder. if it's good enough for john's shots, it's good enough for mine.

    https://decentespresso.com/pro_grinder

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    Have a read of the Quamar thread. Enough people seem to have had lemons out of the box that I would recommend buying a proved unit second hand if you go that direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodhouse View Post
    for that budget, i'd look into the decent pro grinder. if it's good enough for john's shots, it's good enough for mine.

    https://decentespresso.com/pro_grinder
    Woodhouse, I think the Decent may be a bit over the budget. It is $1,100 + $25 freight and you are over the $1k duty free threshold so GST on the way in, will probably work out too expensive for the budget

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacsnob View Post
    For this price I'd recommend Macap M4D.
    +1 for the Macap M4D.

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    Love my M4D and would highly recommend one. Built like a tank, double shot in under 10 seconds, and I've got it in chrome so it looks swish on the bench. It also has a little on board computer so you can set two or three doses by time, and in tenths of seconds. A simple button press changes between the three presets, as well as manual dose. If you're dialled in on a bean, even with daily change the timer produces surprisingly accurate results- I know because I also weigh. Very little grind retention - between 1 and 2 grams, but I quickly turn on/off to purge it each morning.

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    A bit of a jump up but the Eureka Atom does it for me. Big dollars though.
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    Should add that I had a Macap m4d. It was well built with a nice fine adjustment knob at the back but it was clumpy and messy. No offence or m4d owners as itís a good one but the Atom is a dream in comparison (and thatís why I changed).

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    Having had a m4d and atom these are my thoughts

    Buying new spend the extra for the atom.

    If a used m4d vs a new atom Iíd say save the 500plus and get a m4d if budget is a concern.

    The atom is great but itís not double the price better.

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    I posted this last week on CS,
    https://coffeesnobs.com.au/brewing-e...tml#post629324

    about the Mahlkonig Vario gen2 / gen3 (identical apart from the p/f holder).

    Please note that the Baratza Vario is technically a parallel import as it is marketed in the USA (and perhaps Canada) and Mahlkonig is "rest of world" in official distribution. The gen2s are also slightly different, so my comments only relate to the Swiss Mahlkonig.

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    Hi Guys, thank you for the swift replies! I've only just found these forums but think I'll be spending a bitof time here.

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    I'm really liking my Sette 270w. Fits nicely in your budget. Really low grind retention and weighed doses in the portafilter is outstanding



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