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Thread: Baratza Sette 270 Wi or a Ceado E5p

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    Baratza Sette 270 Wi or a Ceado E5p

    Hello all. I just wanted to get the forum's opinion on these two grinders.

    I bought the Sette but can return it for the Ceado E5P. The price for the Ceado is $50.00 less than the Sette. I am paring with a Lelit Diana Dual boiler PID machine.

    I like the tech stuff on the Sette but worried about durability. Loadcell and upgradeable firmware is impressive but really unnecessary. It does grind beautiful fluffy grounds. But im concerned about hardware durability and software reliability.

    I like that the ceado is NSF for use in commerical application. Screams durable. It has a 3 year warranty. 64mm flat burrs and is stepless. Simple but maybe less is more.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    I can't see where Ceados are sold in Australia so you may not get a hit on this. Where are you located?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcCee View Post
    I can't see where Ceados are sold in Australia so you may not get a hit on this. Where are you located?
    Thank you JMcCee

    I had a laugh...was wondering if it was personal.
    Im in the US. Australia is light years ahead of the US in terms of home espresso.

    Maybe someone can comment on long term durability of Baratza Sette. I own a Baratza Maestro Plus and lasted 10 years. But recntly saw an Encore and was a bit disappointed with the build. Felt very flimsy and less robust.

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    This video may help you decide.

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    Thank you. Ive seen this video a few times and still can't decide...

    I do like how the sette is grinding right now. Just dont want to buy another grinder 2 years down the line.

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    Best thing when you're not happy with something is to get rid of it, it's only a grinder. Have you had to shim it yet? For me any grinder that needs shimming within weeks of purchase is a no no.
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    If it was a car that was
    going okay
    one could suggest to just drive it into the ground and get your monies worth. In this case..
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    Im in the US. Australia is light years ahead of the US in terms of home espresso.
    I was going to say, I don't think Wis are in aus yet. I have one on preorder.
    I managed to break (or during transit) a W the day of purchase. The plastic portafilter hook hinge is so flimsy.
    It screams plasticy and unreliable to me, however the perks of weighed dosing will save me so much time and fuss i'm happy to get 5 years out of it and move on.

    For me any grinder that needs shimming within weeks of purchase is a no no.
    I've heard for espresso it needs to be quite near to the finest setting and people shim to get more play in their grind settings from the get go. Not a fan of a grinder needing a shim straight away but again, the weighed dosing!

    I'm also a huge fan of the straight through burrs as I single dose 3 or 4 coffees per week

    If you want reliable and longevity i'd be inclined to get the Ceado, if you want features, the sette

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    Erimus;633794]This video may help you decide.

    dang Erimus. Now i want a Ceado. That thing is a beast, I like the shute and the grinds look fluffy as.
    Last edited by science-teacher; 14th July 2018 at 02:08 PM.

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    The shim bothers be too. They have two that are included as part of the package. Meaning its an issue. The conical burr also is set in plastic. The portafilter holder is now metal as the plastic ones would break as people tried to adjust the portafilter forks.

    I would love to get 5 years out of the Sette but dont know if it would last that long.

    Thanks for the input guys. You have helped me make my decision.

    I requested a a return RMA for the Sette and the Ceado is on the way to my house.

    Ill let you know about the Ceado. Im a little worried because I was set on returning the Sette when I ordered a Eureka Mignon but had problems jamming it while trying to dial it in. Got frustrated with the stepless Mignon and returned that and kept the Sette.

    The Eureka was beautiful grinder and was $200.00 less than the Sette as it was a refurbished grinder.

    Hopefully the bigger burrs and 300 watts will be more forgiving when dialing in compared to the Mignon.

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    https://www.wholelattelove.com/blog/...-and-ceado-e6/

    Above is video of the Ceado E6 vs Mazzer mini. E5p is a stripped down doserless version of the E6 but has the same motor and burrs.

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    Received the new grinder today. Very Stout well made and performs extremely well. Grounds are not as fluffy as the baratza. But will probably have to season The burrs. a tiny bit clumpy but reasonable. hopefully seasoning the burrs with a few pounds of coffee will help.

    spartan but easy to dial in and havent choked the burr set yet.

    all the grounds go into the portafilter and have barely have any stray grounds.

    so far very happy. also the lelit diana is a week old. my first legit espresso maker. previously had a Saeco Intuita Super and a second hand Breville BES820XL used only for 1 month before I upgraded.

    thanks for all the advice.

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    So how does the E5P compare with the 270Wi in terms of grind quality and convenience? I find it hard to give up on a timer and would probably single-dose every shot if my grinder didn't include one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boren View Post
    So how does the E5P compare with the 270Wi in terms of grind quality and convenience? I find it hard to give up on a timer and would probably single-dose every shot if my grinder didn't include one.
    Overall grind quality so far is a slight nod to the baratza. Both are equally consistent. The Sette def produces fluffier grounds at finer settings and knew that the ceado would be a tiny bit clumpier. But I want the grinder to last and the build quality, 64mm burrs and 300 watt motor was a huge plus on the Ceado and cost less on clearance.

    Single dosing on the baratza was a dream as was the scale. Very little retention as well. Clean up is a breeze on the sette also. Now I m wondering why Ingave that all up as I'm writing this..I had a laugh

    Single dosing on the ceado is not practical for me. too much retention and stale grounds to clear out.

    Overall I'm very happy with the E5P. if the build quality on the setter was better meaning metal housing and metal burr metal burr carrier I would have kept the Sette. It really worried me that the burr carrier was plastic and that really tipped me over the edge.

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    It seems that except for projected reliability, you preferred the Sette. If only the Etzinger EtzMAX version of the Sette was more affordable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boren View Post
    It seems that except for projected reliability, you preferred the Sette. If only the Etzinger EtzMAX version of the Sette was more affordable...
    Wish I had both. And If I did I'd probably use the Sette more. Features are great, ease of use too. Dont get me wrong I'm very happy with the Ceado. produces terrific grounds and is truly a commercial class grinder.

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