I currently have a BES920 and smart grinder pro and am looking to upgrade the grinder. (Eventually I want to replace the 920 with and ECM synchronika, but that will have to wait until next year. )
I bought this pair to just get my feet wet so to speak. However I'm hooked and am looking to get something a little nicer.
We make 4-6 coffees a day, pretty much all latte. But I figure I should still have the best grinder I can afford. Budget is $1500 max.
I'd like something that I won't want or need to upgrade again. Something that is relatively quiet and quick as well, and no higher than about 450mm. I don't want it to be too overpowering in the kitchen.
I'm also not great on maintenance, so the easier to clean/take apart the better too. (lazy)
So on to my list.
1. Ceado E37S Love pretty much everything about this grinder, apart from the tall hopper, which can be replaced, and the price.
2. Eureka Atom. This would seem to suit also, well priced.
3. Mazzer Mini Electronic
I'd really love the Ceado, however it seems it is only available in one place in Australia and therefore not much reason to give any discount.
I'm also located in country SA, so happy to buy from anywhere really. It would have to be posted regardless.
Thoughts and opinions ?
Whole Latte Love do a side-by-side comparison of the Ceado and Atom. Have you seen it? They find it difficult to separate the two, the Atom is on my wish list. They’re both easy to clean and your grind settings are retained when taking the top burr off for cleaning. Both will pair nicely with the ECM.
Did you want a doser? If not the very quiet Atom and put the rest toward a machine. Otherwise what herzog said. There's some good reviews on Seattle coffee gear.
Hi Jamie, are you sure the Ceado is sold in Australia? Or Is it just one of those overseas sites with names like Cafe Italia Australia? Might be worth checking.
There prices do not include GST, although they say they do.
When you buy from them you will be charged GST and an $80 government import fee. By then its too late when the goods are sitting in Australian Customs.
Wilson, if you do want an Atom and are ready now send me a PM and we will gladly help a CS member
Antony is spot on. Years ago before I knew better I looked at Café Italia Aus for a new Pavoni and rang the 'Oz' number to enquire. After some basic detective work it turned out to be a dude in a piano shop in the Dandenongs who admitted he was paid a token amount to answer 'Café Italia' and to tell people to just order on-line. Caveat emptor..
Yes, have watched that video. Very nice. However they tested the Ceado E37J not the E37S. I think I'd rather the Atom over the E37J.
The Whole Latte Love guys seem to love the Ceado, and even say in another video the E37S is their all time favourite grinder.
Thanks for your reply.
I don't want a doser no.
Yup lots of great reviews and videos out there. Which is great.
Yup good point! Thanks for pointing this out. Yes it was Cafe Italia Australia.
I run an importing business with an online store, and I really hate seeing this sort of behaviour. Adding to the disappointment, why are there no Ceado dealers in Australia ?? They seem to be great grinders.
Australia is a small market in the greater scheme of coffee things so I suspect Ceado made a decision not to sell here considering the already plethora of grinder brands available here. Maybe a sponsor might like to put their hand up.
Getting approval to sell an electrical appliance in Australia involves work and cost, may need to change things during manufacture of Australian spec models etc. That hurdle may have made it less appealing given the other grinders already available here to compete with.
Last edited by level3ninja; 4th August 2018 at 03:15 PM. Reason: i spel gud
Well it seems the Ceado is off the table. Not buying from a grey importer, especially one that is not up front about how they run their business.
So other than the Atom, which was my first choice before I came across the Ceado, there doesn't seem to be many other options in my price range that are relatively compact and quiet.
I do quite like the ECM V Titan 64, although a little more expensive, it looks like it might be more robust, however probably much louder in operation. Although it grinds so much quicker!
Thanks Antony for the great service.
I purchased a Eureka Atom grinder, which arrived today. A nice solid piece of equipment, and very quiet. Need to spend some serious time dialling it in though!
One interesting observation between the Breville and Atom. I could easily get 21g into my pf before, but now the grinds are so much fluffier that I struggle to get more than about 18 before I either need to stop or try and shake the pf. Otherwise I get spill over. Something to get used to I guess.
Glad you got the problem solved Jamie.
Thanks for clarification.
I haven't been topping up after every shot, but certainly not running it empty.
Although in day to day practise I will have to do the same if I want any consistency then! Almost like single dosing, but with extra beans in the hopper.
I generally top up after about 4 double shots. I think it's more important now while you're dialling in because you're not used to it, so you won't know to make an allowance for minor changes.