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    Crush Grind Brazil Coffee Grinder

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    Hey guys & gals,

    In the market for a flair and before I take the plunge, Iíd like to find a good quality manual grinder to pair it with..

    Keeping in mind my budget for a hand grinder is around to $150 - $250 range, Iíve come across the Crush Grind Brazil Grinder which looks really good..

    Question is, has anyone had the chance to use one of these? If so, how consistent do you find the grind when it comes to espresso?
    Is it quicker, slower than your Lido E for example?

    Itíll just be for a home application on weekends so Iíd probably only use it 2 / 3 times over weekends as I have a good machine and grinder at work..

    Any help would be highly appreciated.. Iím also open for suggestions if you know of other hand Grinderís within that price range thatíll do the job well.


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    Hi Tampinator

    I haven't got personal experience of the Crushgrind Brazil grinder but can say from viewing their website that it is essentially a ceramic burr grinder similar to the Porlex/Hario/Rhinowares offerings. While they claim 2 to 5 times more efficiency for their offering, the fundamental limiting factor in these ceramic burr grinder designs is that there is runout of the inner burr. Even though the grind consistency can be reasonable, the effort required in the espresso range can be lengthy and soon becomes tedious.

    In comparison, the Orphan Espresso Lido grinders have a solid stainless steel central shaft supported in two bronze bushings which virtually eliminate any runout in the inner burr. The Lidos use a 48mm steel burr set which will give you a higher output, step-less adjustability, and vastly greater longevity than any ceramic burr set. A Lido 2 can be had for $240; which is within your budget. However, for another $40 you can buy a Lido E or ET which gives you better adjustability in the espresso grind range.

    Any of the Lidos will match perfectly with the Flair for your intended home-based use and will ensure that you get the best possible results from what is a very impressive manual espresso machine. Before you purchase a Flair make sure you consider their just released (yesterday) new version with a pressure gauge and redesigned basket/portafilter arrangement.

    If you were to make more use of the Flair's compactness and travel case a smaller espresso capable grinder like the Aergrind/Helor 101/Comandante would be worth considering.

    I must admit that the Crushgrind cradle looks as though it would make the grinding process much easier. The new Orphan Espresso Apex grinder (also released on the market yesterday) uses a similar angled stand and I will be looking to craft a similar cradle for bench use of my Lido 3.

    Hope these comments are helpful. I have no hesitation in recommending the Lido and its heirloom quality construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otago View Post
    Hi Tampinator

    I haven't got personal experience of the Crushgrind Brazil grinder but can say from viewing their website that it is essentially a ceramic burr grinder similar to the Porlex/Hario/Rhinowares offerings. While they claim 2 to 5 times more efficiency for their offering, the fundamental limiting factor in these ceramic burr grinder designs is that there is runout of the inner burr. Even though the grind consistency can be reasonable, the effort required in the espresso range can be lengthy and soon becomes tedious.

    In comparison, the Orphan Espresso Lido grinders have a solid stainless steel central shaft supported in two bronze bushings which virtually eliminate any runout in the inner burr. The Lidos use a 48mm steel burr set which will give you a higher output, step-less adjustability, and vastly greater longevity than any ceramic burr set. A Lido 2 can be had for $240; which is within your budget. However, for another $40 you can buy a Lido E or ET which gives you better adjustability in the espresso grind range.

    Any of the Lidos will match perfectly with the Flair for your intended home-based use and will ensure that you get the best possible results from what is a very impressive manual espresso machine. Before you purchase a Flair make sure you consider their just released (yesterday) new version with a pressure gauge and redesigned basket/portafilter arrangement.

    If you were to make more use of the Flair's compactness and travel case a smaller espresso capable grinder like the Aergrind/Helor 101/Comandante would be worth considering.

    I must admit that the Crushgrind cradle looks as though it would make the grinding process much easier. The new Orphan Espresso Apex grinder (also released on the market yesterday) uses a similar angled stand and I will be looking to craft a similar cradle for bench use of my Lido 3.

    Hope these comments are helpful. I have no hesitation in recommending the Lido and its heirloom quality construction.
    Hi Otago, thanks heaps for your detailed response...
    Iíll admit, one of the main things that sparked my interest with the crushgrind is the base that comes with it.. their website (and other videos on YouTube) donít give too much away in terms of how consistent the grind is down to espresso level which is why I mainly decided to question it here..

    The lido e does look like an awesome grinder, and the reviews conclude the same..

    As I donít intent to travel with it often, ease of use on a lazy Sunday morning is kind of my main priority but not to the extent that Iím willing to sacrifice flavour..

    Will definitely poke around for a second hand lido e in my price range though and see what might pop up!

    Thanks again!

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    Your lucky day. Dreamscape currently has an E for sale.
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    I have had that grinder for a few years. To be honest I never tried it for espresso but even for drip it is very hard to turn. The stand is a good idea though.
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    Is that the Paul Pratt of Cafelat Robot fame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otago View Post
    Is that the Paul Pratt of Cafelat Robot fame?
    There is only one.

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    I can vouch for the Lidos. Fantastic grinders. The only other one on the market that has piqued my interest is the Hiku. Quite like the look of that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulPratt View Post
    I have had that grinder for a few years. To be honest I never tried it for espresso but even for drip it is very hard to turn. The stand is a good idea though.
    Thanks Paul, have you by any chance tried any other manual grinders for comparison? Would you possibly know if itís any harder or easier to turn than a lido e for example?

    Thanks,
    Jack J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tampinator View Post
    Thanks Paul, have you by any chance tried any other manual grinders for comparison? Would you possibly know if it’s any harder or easier to turn than a lido e for example?

    Thanks,
    Jack J.
    I have only used it a few times for drip. We have common product designers so they visited me and gave me one to play with. The OE grinders are a level above. This just seemed to be in the Hario and Porlex category. Very plasticky.
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    Crush Grind Brazil Coffee Grinder

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulPratt View Post
    I have only used it a few times for drip. We have common product designers so they visited me and gave me one to play with. The OE grinders are a level above. This just seemed to be in the Hario and Porlex category. Very plasticky.
    Thanks for the advice, I decided on the lido E and have made my purchase for both the grinder and flair.. should receive it mid next week!

    All the best,
    Jack J.
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    Crush Grind Brazil Coffee Grinder

    Got my Flair and Lido E grinder yesterday, had a bit of a play this morning and all I can say is, awesome machine!!

    Thanks heaps for the advice guys!!
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