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Thread: Grinder under $500 for Rancillio Silvia V5

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    Red face Grinder under $500 for Rancillio Silvia V5

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    Hi everyone, I just purchased my very first espresso machine.
    Got a steal off Gumtree, a Rancillio Silvia V5 only 6 months old from an elderly lady. She said it was too complicated for her, so I snapped it up pretty quick for $350.
    Currently itís sitting in my kitchen all spick and span but grinderless
    Iím after your recommendations for a grinder under $500.
    It will only be used for 1 coffee a day as that is all I drink and my husband doesnít drink coffee.
    Thanks everyone!
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    How about something like this Cassandra https://coffeesnobs.com.au/coffee-ha...r-grinder.html good little grinder at a very fair price.
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    Hi, thanks for that! I’ll shoot them a message and see if they will post to Melbourne.

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    Or perhaps one a little more upmarket, that will do an excellent job also...
    https://coffeesnobs.com.au/coffee-ha...tml#post646245

    Mal.
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    Thanks for getting back to me guys! Much appreciated!
    Only thing I’m also undecided about is whether to get a doser or a doserless? Like I said, it will only be 1 coffee a day for myself. A doser saves me from cleaning the added mess that a doserless makes but then there’s always the extra grounds in the container, but doserless is always a fresh ground yet messy

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    Baratza Sette 270 is worth considering ($470) . There has been reliability issues with the first gen but hopefully they've ironed them out with current batches. It is a noisy grinder but has very low retention (for its price) and fluffy grinds (low clumping) according to the interwebs.

    I wouldn't touch a doser grinder for a few coffees a day - too fiddly and no less messy than a doserless imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CassandraT View Post
    Thanks for getting back to me guys! Much appreciated!
    Only thing I’m also undecided about is whether to get a doser or a doserless? Like I said, it will only be 1 coffee a day for myself. A doser saves me from cleaning the added mess that a doserless makes but then there’s always the extra grounds in the container, but doserless is always a fresh ground yet messy
    Hi CassandraT

    [Firstly full disclosure as I am the person selling the Macap M2M as posted above by Mal, so feel free to either take or leave my advice.]

    I think you'll find that most people on this forum would recommend a doserless grinder for home use. I'm sure if you read through a few of the grinder recommendation threads you would see that doserless is preferable, not to mention particular threads discussing how to convert grinders to doserless.

    A doser is typically useful in a high-volume situation (i.e. a cafe) with a lot of bean throughput. At home a doser will cause issues with grind retention, whereas doserless would result in less bean wastage and fresh grinds on demand. Mess isn't typically too much of a problem and you can get things like dosing funnels or home-made solutions (e.g. the top cut off a plastic cup) to reduce spillage. As dischucker says a doser could be just as messy as doserless.

    Have a look at other threads in the grinder section to see how other CSers have found different models of grinders. Then you can narrow down a shortlist, and look for the best bang for buck!

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    +1 on Macap M2 for a really good quality, low usage scenario.
    Big plus on durability and resale should the upgraditis bug bite in future years, I had a laugh

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    Compak k3 is another great grinder. Stepless and will last a lifetime.
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    Iíve been using a La Cimbali Cadet (which is basically the same as a Junior). Designed as a commercial grinder with 64mm conical burrs and heavy duty build. Itís a good quality grind, and I could see it running pretty much forever.

    They pop up every now and then well within your budget.

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    Hi all, thanks for your replies! I bought a rocky doserless which has been really good, only flaw is the steps I find are just too large. Either too fine or too course, nothing in between. I use the same measured dose but I just find with the tamp it can be too dense and the water not run through at all. Especially toward the end of my bag of beans as it gets stale I find I can’t adjust the grind correctly. Does anyone have any suggestions how to overcome this?
    I am looking at a Macap upgrade, it’s a shame as the Rocky has had only 3kg run through. Like I said a coffee a day is all I make.

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    Hi C'T...

    How about giving the ubiquitous Rocky Mod a try?
    There are a couple of ways to go about it and well explained in here...
    https://coffeesnobs.com.au/grinders/...mod-rocky.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by CassandraT View Post
    Hi all, thanks for your replies! I bought a rocky doserless which has been really good, only flaw is the steps I find are just too large. Either too fine or too course, nothing in between. I use the same measured dose but I just find with the tamp it can be too dense and the water not run through at all. Especially toward the end of my bag of beans as it gets stale I find I can’t adjust the grind correctly. Does anyone have any suggestions how to overcome this?
    I am looking at a Macap upgrade, it’s a shame as the Rocky has had only 3kg run through. Like I said a coffee a day is all I make.
    Yep do the stepless mod if you can! I bought mine 2nd hand with it done and has improved the adjustability heaps! It's a very clumpy grinder as I'm currently looking at an upgrade myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilthySudo View Post
    It's a very clumpy grinder as I'm currently looking at an upgrade myself
    Never found that to be the case with mine (doserless), grinds were always light and fluffy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Never found that to be the case with mine (doserless), grinds were always light and fluffy.

    Mal.
    Same with my Rocky Mal.

    Seems some do have the problem, perhaps climate (humidity) or degree of roast i.e. dark roast oily beans are contributing factors.
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    If you go that way, an alternative to Macap is the Compak K3 Push which is stepless and available in the price range you mention. Often seen at around $460 - $500 if you search. Built more like a commercial grinder with a solid Cast Aluminum body for strength and durability.

    Compak K3 has 58mm Flat Burrs against the Macap M2M which are 50mm. Compak is also slightly slower at 1345rpm v 1400rpm of the Macap. Compak is 225W v Macap M2M at 150W.

    Compak | Professional Coffee Grinders | K3 Push


    Having said all that, for 1 coffee a day the Rocky stepless mod mentioned earlier would seem to be the most economical option if you are able to do it or if not find someone to do it.
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    I do find this bag of beans I opened are super oily! I noticed as soon as I touched them compared to my previous bag even though they are the same beans from my usual roaster. Ive nearly finished this bag so when I buy my next I’ll see how they are. Also, as beans get stale/older toward the bottom of the bag should I grind finer or coarser? I can’t seem to get the gist of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeLotta View Post
    Compak is also slightly slower at 1345rpm v 1400rpm of the Macap.
    Not really relevant as very few manufacturers qualify this with the actual physical load the grinder motor has been subjected to. If, for example, it was qualified as xxxxrpm at 150W load that actually means something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CassandraT View Post
    I do find this bag of beans I opened are super oily! I noticed as soon as I touched them compared to my previous bag even though they are the same beans from my usual roaster. Ive nearly finished this bag so when I buy my next I’ll see how they are. Also, as beans get stale/older toward the bottom of the bag should I grind finer or coarser? I can’t seem to get the gist of it!
    Usually, as the beans age, you will find that it will become necessary to slightly grind finer as time goes on. Let your taste buds be your guide, or a stop-watch if you're that way inclined to ensure you're getting the best from the beans at an appropriate flow rate...

    Mal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CassandraT View Post
    Hi everyone, I just purchased my very first espresso machine.
    Got a steal off Gumtree, a Rancillio Silvia V5 only 6 months old from an elderly lady. She said it was too complicated for her, so I snapped it up pretty quick for $350.
    Currently itís sitting in my kitchen all spick and span but grinderless
    Iím after your recommendations for a grinder under $500.
    It will only be used for 1 coffee a day as that is all I drink and my husband doesnít drink coffee.
    Thanks everyone!
    Can recommend the mahlkonig vario, for kitchen space saving, ease and quality of output.
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    I just used a Smart Grinder Pro (with my Silvia v3) which is $200 now, most impressive.

    Otherwise a Macap M2, but that's almost three times the price at around $550 and not as small or functional as the Breville.

    The Breville is Aussie too, I like to support a local company even if the product is made somewhere else.

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    For one coffee a day, I would suggest a quality hand grinder (lido or similar). Or, if not in budget, a portalex or hario would do the job.
    They may be a little more work, but would take up less bench space, have no retention, and no risk of them breaking down.
    It would also provide extra scalability for alternate brew methods, if you are so inclined.



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