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Thread: Maccap M7D and Rancilio Kyro 65 OD

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    Maccap M7D and Rancilio Kyro 65 OD

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    I can't find much info here (or anywhere really) on these two. I'm also considering a Ceado E37.

    Looking to upgrade and I'm turned off the old Mazza because of thread clogging issues.

    Anyone have one of the two mentioned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobSac View Post
    I'm turned off the old Mazza because of thread clogging issues.
    Well, that's a new one to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Well, that's a new one to me...

    Mal.
    I was told by a Melbourne based barista, with a long, long time in the industry about it, a quick google and I found more info and also mentions in Seattle Coffee Gear and Whole Latte Love YouTube reviews.

    Also, Mazzers have a cumbersome grind adjustment, described as 'tight' and 'sticky'? Also found this echoed in a few reviews.

    I'm feeling like there's no love here for these two grinders since a search and a new thread have resulted in no fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobSac View Post
    I was told by a Melbourne based barista, with a long, long time in the industry about it, a quick google and I found more info and also mentions in Seattle Coffee Gear and Whole Latte Love YouTube reviews.

    Also, Mazzers have a cumbersome grind adjustment, described as 'tight' and 'sticky'? Also found this echoed in a few reviews.

    I'm feeling like there's no love here for these two grinders since a search and a new thread have resulted in no fruit.
    Well if you search for 'Maccap' instead of 'Macap' that will limit the hit rate for a start. What are you planning to use the grinder for (home, cafe, restaurant)? Most people here will be discussing grinders for home / light commercial use.

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    Sorry mate, don't agree with your Barista friend on either of those accounts.
    Have been using a Mazzer for the past 8-9 years and neither of those suggestions really hold water, despite what you may have found in the wisdom of the internet crowd.

    I guess that if one doesn't properly maintain one's grinder, then regardless of make, you are going to experience difficulties...

    Nothing wrong with either of the grinders you have mentioned.

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    I agree with Mal
    The only reason Mazzer grinders might be sticky or tight is improper cleaning and lack of food grade grease in the proper areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobSac View Post
    I can't find much info here (or anywhere really) on these two. I'm also considering a Ceado E37.

    Looking to upgrade and I'm turned off the old Mazza because of thread clogging issues.

    Anyone have one of the two mentioned?
    G'Day Bob, (thread clogging) with Mazzer grinders is not a problem, provided you give them a clean now and again, this includes the thread, after cleaning a light spray with silicone lube and all is fine.

    On the other hand if your a set and forget type, over time grot will build up and the adjuster will become difficult to turn, in fact I've heard of some neglected machines where the adjuster has completely seized

    Not a lot of love for Mazzer products among home users any more, as a result there are some real bargains to be had.

    Admittedly they are not speedsters, but, they are a quality grinder built to last.

    On the other hand, check the bench on the majority of cafes, you will usually find Mazzer grinders, wonder why?

    Mine is now about 10 years old, used multiple times daily and I wouldn't part with it for quids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobSac View Post

    I'm feeling like there's no love here for these two grinders since a search and a new thread have resulted in no fruit.

    There’s plenty of love for them.....for those of us who appreciate quality of build over the latest gadget.
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    Bob if you now live in Aus my guess is you wont buy a Ceado locally

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    Thanks guys.

    Still ain't sure why no love for the Mazzer options, I'm sure an M7D isn't poorly built in comparison to a Maz?

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    From the sounds of it you're doing most of your research online. If at all possible I cannot recommend highly enough to get into a shop and try a few hands on. Different people find different mechanisms and interfaces more natural and intuitive, nicer to use etc. Once something is "good enough" whether or not it's the right one for you comes down to you, not it. The M7D is certainly good enough, I haven't heard of the Kryo before but a cursory search looks ok, Rancilio know what they're doing.

    Where are you located? Site sponsors in Sydney and Melbourne are worth a visit, I'm sure there's other site sponsors in other places too.
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    Just thought I'd update the thread.
    I bought the M7D and the Kyro and sold the Kryo to keep the M7D which was quiter (slightly), faster (noticeably) and easier to use. Shots are also slightly more consistent.

    The M7D works very well as a single doser but I use it with the hopper and between 100 and 1000 grams in it at a time.

    I'll attempt to revisit the thread in a year or so.
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    I have been a longstanding owner of a M7D and have found it to be a very reliable and fast grinder which produces excellent shots. With only 350rpm I am not sure how it grinds so fast. Like you I don't use it as a single doser but rely on a purge.

    Good luck with your M7D grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geekman3 View Post
    With only 350rpm I am not sure how it grinds so fast.
    It is those wonderfully large conical burr-sets that do it for you...
    Much more grinding/cutting surface area per burr-set diameter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    It is those wonderfully large conical burr-sets that do it for you...
    Much more grinding/cutting surface area per burr-set diameter.

    Mal.

    Mal explains grind speed the same way I like my espresso, short and sweet with no BS thrown in

    Not that it matters, but if you were curious, I'm now grinding at 3.3 seconds for a double.
    Not only is the grinder fast, it's quiet and the kind of noise it makes is very, very nice, none of that screeching or tearing I get with my cheaper grinders, it's really a beautiful sound if you like products with quality engineering and have experienced the nasty cheap appliance stuff.

    Having said that, if the M7D wasn't justifiable as a work purchase, I'd be happy with the Brevile SGP, not far off the taste and ease of use of the M7D (I know, I know, comparing those two is silly).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we5lae33gIc

    The grinder is now faster in satin black with an orange racing stripe;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvTPl1RHd3M
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    How easy, and good, is that...

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