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    Rocket Fausto vs Eureka Atom

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    I know the Atom is cheaper and I know its quiet but I find it quite ugly and I'm sure a Fausto would look great alongside my Giotto. I also personally like pressing a button on the top rather than pressing a button using the group handle.

    So Fausto owners .......

    Were you tossing up between the Atom and Fasuto and why did you choose the Fausto?
    If you didn't consider the Atom then why did you choose the Fausto?
    Are you still happy? In fact are you in love???
    Easy to clean?
    Fluffy grinds? Minimal clumping?
    Grind retention?
    Am I making a mistake favoring the Fausto over the Atom? I'm still open to suggestions

    BTW I'm coming from a Macap M4D and it seems others are considering an upgrade as well. Maybe the Macap M4D had been dethroned as one of the best high end home grinder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    Were you tossing up between the Atom and Fasuto and why did you choose the Fausto?
    Yes. Nobody in Australia had stock of the Atom and I wanted something pretty soon. Looked closer at the Fausto and liked the features and the aesthetics.

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    Are you still happy? In fact are you in love???
    I'm happy enough with it. There are things about it I wish were different but nothing is perfect.

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    Easy to clean?
    Haven't cleaned inside mine yet but it looks to be easy. Being able to remove the top burr without changing the grind setting is great.

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    Fluffy grinds? Minimal clumping?
    It clumps pretty bad, not as fluffy as I would like at all. I have to stir it to break up the worst of it. Not as bad as my old K3 but after I was using a Sette 270W for a while (super fluffy with no clumps) it pained me a little to go back to the Fausto.

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    Grind retention?
    About average, 2g or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noidle22 View Post
    It clumps pretty bad
    Wow that's the first time I've heard that.
    My old Macap M4D also clumps badly but I didn't feel the need to stir it as It still produced great tasting coffee. My own personal view is that clumping is over rated as a problem after all doesn't tamping remove the clumps. The only problem with clumping apart from not looking nice is that it can be messy and its easy to have grinds spill out of the basket while dosing.
    Anyway I am disappointed to hear that considering I was 98% sold on it and as I was looking forward to fluffier grinds with less mess. Do other Fausto owners feel the same way?

    EDIT .... I just read many reviews here and OS and nearly all of them say it has minimal clumping
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    I have no issues with my Fausto. It clumps a little but would imagine you get clumping with most grinders when using really fresh coffee. The digital shot timer and step less adjustment makes it easy to setup and make necessary adjustments. It’s pretty quick and quiet too.

    I looked at the Atom but has a style that I didn’t appreciate. I was looking very seriously at the M4D but the Fausto came up for sale on the boards secondhand for a good price with not many shots on it.

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    There's two types of clumping, the slight grouping together of grinds that falls apart as soon as you touch it, you'd never be able to pick them up; and the little pebble like rocks you could throw at someone. The first go with tamping, the second do not entirely.

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    Let me clarify, the clumping could be called over-exuberant fluffiness. A couple of taps and they disappear.
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    Thanks Dan that makes me feel better. Like you I found the Atom lacks style but to some it might look sexy but the Fausto looks classy particularly next to a Rocket machine. Is it worth $200 more, well from an aesthetic point of view, in my case absolutely. BTW Dan was it roughly right for espresso out of the box or did you have to make large changes to dial it in and if so did you need to go finer or coarser

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    I got mine with about 400 shots on it from a member on CS. I have mine currently dialled in around the 4 or 5 mark but have to adjust a little every time I change beans. My double shot is anywhere from 12s to 14s again depending on bean and how ripe the bag is. It will also depend on your coffee machine to what grind setting you go to and also shot time.

    In short, you’ll probably have to dial it in.

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    Here's this mornings grind, straight out of the grinder onto the plate. Clumps noticeably, they wouldn't break up without me poking them. I could pick some of them up and roll them around my palm.
    Beans are what I would call a medium roast (not too light but not too dark), 2.5 weeks old.

    Nowhere near as bad as my old K3 or a grinder that is worn out but it's still not that great, I'm not comfortable just tamping them down and assuming they'll break up. A quick stir as it's grinding into the basket is usually enough to deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    BTW Dan was it roughly right for espresso out of the box or did you have to make large changes to dial it in and if so did you need to go finer or coarser
    I'm sure if you ask nicely when you purchase, the staff at the place of purchase may well be happy to knock it roughly into shape for you- given coffee, environment and dosing style will influence things in your home. Who knows, you may even score some freebie beans from the same roast to get you started.

    Both great grinders, but ultimately they spend much more time with owners, so it's important you choose the one you like barri. If you don't like the look of the Atom, I'd call that good enough reason to go with the Rocket. Given the grinder could well spend 10 years or more with you, the big picture in price difference works out to the cost of a few takeaway coffees/year assuming you can justify the difference at purchase time.

    I'd reckon you'll be happy with whichever you choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caffeinator View Post

    I'd reckon you'll be happy with whichever you choose.
    Just took delivery of the Fausto today and it looks perfect next to the Giotto. I generally dose into a cup and then into the basket and any clumps disappear after that. The place I bought it from included a 1kg of fresh beans and it only took a few shots to dial it in. Very even grind and consistent timing, about 10 seconds for a double shot. Very pleased with how easy you program the doses but the manual is a shocker compared to the manual that came with the giotto. While the Macap M4D was a good grinder, this is definitely a step up. Very happy and very excited!!!

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    Congrats I ave owned a Fausto for a couple of years, I don’t have clumping issues except when there is high humidity. The only issue I have had is the occasional dry run (when you push the button everything appears to be working but no grindsapoear) all I do when this happens is stir the beans in the hopper, and it grinds normally. Cleaning is a breeze compared the my previous MM mini

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    I have had the "dry run" once which was a bit concerning but I did a manual grind then all was OK. I have noticed some grinds inside the screen area which shows a design fault.
    Have you had that Stan and how did you get rid of it?

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    Hi Barri

    Like you I have a Rocket Giotto and Compac K3T. But I'm about to buy a Niche grinder as I'm not getting the grind or fine adjustment of grind with the Compac that I would like. I have also been looking at Atom, Fausto and Macap M42D. Can you give me some idea of why you moved on from your K3? Did you consider the Niche when you bought your Fausto? The single dosing and rave reviews have me convinced so far.

    Also do you know of any barista training in East Gippsland? Being in Paynesville it's a long way to travel to Melb for advice?. I've looked at The Bean Scene in Warragul but they sound as though they are focused on commercial barista training.

    Cheers David

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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    I have had the "dry run" once which was a bit concerning but I did a manual grind then all was OK. I have noticed some grinds inside the screen area which shows a design fault.
    Have you had that Stan and how did you get rid of it?
    I have not had any grinds behind the screen. I have only had one dry run in the last year.
    The reason I chose the Fausto over the Atom was purely the shape

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meggs8 View Post
    Hi Barri

    Like you I have a Rocket Giotto and Compac K3T. But I'm about to buy a Niche grinder as I'm not getting the grind or fine adjustment of grind with the Compac that I would like. I have also been looking at Atom, Fausto and Macap M42D. Can you give me some idea of why you moved on from your K3? Did you consider the Niche when you bought your Fausto? The single dosing and rave reviews have me convinced so far.

    Also do you know of any barista training in East Gippsland? Being in Paynesville it's a long way to travel to Melb for advice?. I've looked at The Bean Scene in Warragul but they sound as though they are focused on commercial barista training.

    Cheers David
    PM sent but I didn't consider the Niche grinder.



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