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Thread: Rocket Appartamento Grinder Pairing

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    Rocket Appartamento Grinder Pairing

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    Hi Group,

    I have just purchased a Rocket Appartamento and am looking for a grinder to pair with it, So far I am deciding between the Baratza Sette 30, Sette 270 or Mazzer Mini.

    Would the Sette 30 be sufficient to start with for a grinder of the Appartamento which I can then upgrade using the micro adjustment assembly of the 270 if I need to fine tune the grind.

    I'm worried that the Sette 30 will not last more than a few years so am thinking if it's worth the money to buy the Mazzer Mini now or start with the Sette 30 and then buy the Mazzer Mini in a year or two.

    I know the Mazzer Mini is of exceptional build quality and will likely last a long time with regular home use.

    Is there a significant difference in grind quality between the Sette 30/270 and the Mazzer Mini that justifies the additional expense?

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    Welcome "christianmarth"...

    Yes mate there is.
    One is a domestic 'appliance' grade build and the other is a specialist/commercial/industrial quality build that has the potential to outlast you. Other brands you also should consider are: Macap, Compak, Eureka, Rocket to name but a few that fit into the same category as a Mazzer...

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    The Rocket Faustino has been designed to aesthetically match the Appartamento. This is a "smaller" version of the Fausto which is a great grinder and as Mal said more commercial quality than the Baratzas you mentioned
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    Way too much chance of a Sette becoming a Niente. Beware.
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    Thanks for the welcome to the group and thanks for the replies

    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    The Rocket Faustino has been designed to aesthetically match the Appartamento.
    This is for my apartment in Singapore and all the coffee equipment distributors here have actually stopped selling the Rocket Fausto because they've had several issues with clumping, not sure if this has been resolved with the Faustino

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Yes mate there is.
    Cheers mate, Yeah I know the Mazzer is built like a tank, just hard to stretch the extra cash at the moment as I blew it all on my Rocket Appartamento espresso machine

    Quote Originally Posted by Caffeinator View Post
    Way too much chance of a Sette becoming a Niente. Beware.
    Thinking of just starting out with the Sette and save up for the Mazzer Mini and buy that once the Sette craps itself in a year or two, I got the Appartamento at a really good price

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianmarth View Post
    Thinking of just starting out with the Sette and save up for the Mazzer Mini and buy that once the Sette craps itself in a year or two, I got the Appartamento at a really good price
    That would just be "dead money" in the end mate.
    Why not opt instead for a decent quality hand grinder like the "Orphan Espresso Lido ET". Built to the same high quality standard of the grinders mentioned above and will be a boon to you when you want a decent cuppa when travelling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Why not opt instead for a decent quality hand grinder like the "Orphan Espresso Lido ET".
    I'm not grinding by hand for half a dozen or so shots per day for home use or when guests come over, I've already got a Porlex Mini and Aeropress which I used for my travel setup.

    Now I'm just tossing up between the Sette 30 (SGD$359) Sette 270 (SGD $520) or the Mazzer Mini E Mod A (SGD$1284) for use with the Appartamento

    Do you think I should just suck it up and bite the bullet on the Mazzer? Is the Mazzer really worth the extra money compared to a Baratza Sette?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianmarth View Post
    I'm not grinding by hand for half a dozen or so shots per day for home use or when guests come over, I've already got a Porlex Mini and Aeropress which I used for my travel setup.

    Now I'm just tossing up between the Sette 30 (SGD$359) Sette 270 (SGD $520) or the Mazzer Mini E Mod A (SGD$1284) for use with the Appartamento

    Do you think I should just suck it up and bite the bullet on the Mazzer? Is the Mazzer really worth the extra money compared to a Baratza Sette?
    Are they really your only options? At nearly $1300 the Mazzer Mini is pretty bad value. Itís definitely a higher quality build than the Baratzas, but spending more than twice as much isnít an absolute guarantee that itíll be faultless. The one thing Iíd definitely do is count out the Sette 30 at those prices. The 270 will give you better performance for not too much more money.
    I guess you just need to decide whether youíre happy to spend $520 on a short term purchase. Even if you donít have any problems with it youíve said yourself that youíd be looking to upgrade in the future. If you do decide to get the Sette 270 it will work well with your Rocket. It sounds like it can create a little bit of mess on the benchtop, but other than that I know a few very happy Sette owners. The grind quality is excellent and if you care for it properly and keep it clean you will reduce (but not completely eliminate) the chance of having problems with it.
    Iíd actually recommend seeing if thereís anything else available. If you can find a Compak K3 or something like that for around $600-700 that would be a much better option.
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    if you’re willing to drop $1300 on a grinder, go for the niche zero instead of the mazzer. much more of a home deal.
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    The other side of the coin, I bought a Mazzer MIni Doser new for approx $625 10 years ago, still running like a Swiss watch, the only money spent on it is for a couple of sets of OEM burrs, works out to under 20 cents a day and still has a reasonable value as a second hand machine.

    I have it set up for single dosing, grounds retention is minimal, there is nothing on the market that would induce me to change, not saying there are not better machines available, however the perceived advantages are insufficient for me to even contemplate an upgrade.

    Mazzers do come up pre loved every now and again, worth watching out for.

    As I've said in the past, check out the bench at your local cafe, chances are the grinder/s of choice is a Mazzer, there is a reason for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianmarth View Post
    the coffee equipment distributors here have actually stopped selling the Rocket Fausto because they've had several issues with clumping, not sure if this has been resolved with the Faustino
    That's strange, I have a Fausto and there is almost no clumping. Maybe its the humidity over there

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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    That's strange, I have a Fausto and there is almost no clumping. Maybe its the humidity over there
    Yeah itís worse than Darwin weather here, 80% humidity and 32įc+ all year round.

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    Hi christianmarth, I am located in Singapore and I'm looking to sell my Sette 270 as I'm making a significant upgrade to my grinder. Knock me up if you're interested to get a second hand Sette 270.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaffetranerd View Post
    Knock me up if you're interested to get a second hand Sette 270.
    A small price to pay!

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    Iíve decided to purchase the Mazzer Super Jolly Doserless
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    Yep agree with this. My Sette 270 died after 18 months.....was good while it lasted though :-(

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    anyone know where you can buy it in Sydney by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don12345 View Post
    anyone know where you can buy it in Sydney by any chance?
    What's it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    What's it?
    I was also wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don12345 View Post
    anyone know where you can buy it in Sydney by any chance?
    A few places in Darlinghurst come to mind? But maybe that's not what you're after.
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    Okay, Quick update, have had the setup for about 2 weeks now and my Grinder has clocked over 230 shots so far, couldn't be happier with the set up, The Super Jolly never misses a beat and keeps up with high demands such as dinner parties when having to make a dozen coffees or so at a time.

    There is some issue with grind retention and performing micro adjustments is a bit finicky as it takes about a shot of coffee for the adjustment to come through but so far so good, the build quality seems to be built like a brick outhouse so hopefully it'll be the last grinder I ever have to buy.

    I did buy a short hopper for it though as the original Super Jolly hopper is a bit overkill for the home.

    Cheers for the advice, much appreciated.

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    Great to hear mate...

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