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Thread: La Marzocco - Swift Mini

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    La Marzocco - Swift Mini

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    La Marzocco have just released a new "home" grinder in Milan.

    Conical, dose, tamp, easy change burrs are great features but at 1615 Euro (will be close to AU$3000 with GST) it won't be for many.


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    The Swift Mini grinder simplifies and streamlines preparing espresso. Making it possible to grind, dose and tamp a double espresso on demand with no waste and no mess. The Swift Mini is compatible with all La
    Marzocco Home machines. Moreover, the Swift Mini can function as a standard on demand grinder. In this way it is possible to grind for single
    espresso, or for filter brewing method featuring:


    ē 32 mm conical burrs


    ē Automatic grinding, dosing and tamping Swift system


    ē Comes standard with a 0,25kg hopper


    ē 47cm tall


    ē Three available finishes: Black, White and RED


    https://international.lamarzoccohome...co-swift-mini/
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    Hi Andy:

    As long as they use lots of genuine plastic everywhere like the Etzinger…

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    Its going to be super low volume if they even bother to release it here. The market for domestic > $2,000 grinders in Australia would be microscopic

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    pretty small burrs for such an expensive grinder. that’s like comandante-sized.

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    Burr size is something for spec-sheets, it has little to do with the performance and more to do with cost, noise, weight, time, power/torque which then affects motor and foot-print size. Larger burr size will generally mean bigger, noisier and faster but for home shots, 10 seconds is really about the same as 5 seconds.

    There is a lot that goes into grinder design.

    This appears to be belt driven with the motor off-set to the burrs which keeps the overall height more squat and allows better torque control.

    Wouldn't mind seeing inside one (someone else's, won't be mine)
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    Like the Etzinger the start of amazingly expensive home grinders made of plastic with tiny burrs and motors. I guess it just doesn't inspire confidence minute burrs with equally minute motors if it is like the Etzinger.

    I get it that it is in the cup that counts but I'd wait 3 years to see how it holds up. Plastic also causes static build up as per the Sette.

    It takes an average user to see how well it works and how easy it is to break as well. The Niche looks good as it has decent burrs and a decent motor, ditto the monolith by Kafetek.

    Time will tell for sure. I will wait for Elvis...

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    I would also be interested to see this grinder in action.

    I wonder how accurate the dosing is, is it timed or does it have an integrated scale? If it grinds by weight and tamps well it could be an interesting device. How well does it do distribution is another question.

    I guess if it was reliable enough and provide good quality grinds it would speed up the workflow. Removing tamping and OCD/distribution would certainly speed up workflow and eliminate 2 devices from the counter.

    However it is awkwardly positioned as who is the target market, with a 250 gram hopper it is targeted at home users and at this price level 3k you are looking at serious geeks who want boutique devices. I am not sure the market for this grinder want automated distribution and tamping, I think they would prefer to have absolute control over all steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roosterben View Post
    I would also be interested to see this grinder in action.

    However it is awkwardly positioned as who is the target market, with a 250 gram hopper it is targeted at home users and at this price level 3k you are looking at serious geeks who want boutique devices. I am not sure the market for this grinder want automated distribution and tamping, I think they would prefer to have absolute control over all steps.
    I was looking at a review on this. The Super Automatic of grinders. I definitely think it could appeal to enthusiasts who can afford it. It looks like it might be a technical gadget with lots of stuff going on, settings to be made and cleaning procedures to be worked out.

    Reliability could definitely be an issue and at the heart it is still a small machine with small burrs and motor. It has lots of tech packed into it.

    I'm sure in time, a CS member will buy one and we will hear all about it and other reviews of course.

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    To my mind it ruins the enjoyable ritual of coffee making in the home environment where there are no time pressures and I take pride in puck prep.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanderP View Post
    To my mind it ruins the enjoyable ritual of coffee making in the home environment where there are no time pressures and I take pride in puck prep.

    Cheers
    To Puck or not to Puck that is the question.

    Some people just don't get it...
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    It does appear to be based on an Etzinger from what Iím seeing. Specs are similar, and to me it looks like a restyled Etz.

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    Iím actually very interested in this.

    Couple of things Iíve thought since it was released. Itís about 2k cheaper than the mythos gravitech and then you need a 1k puqpress or similar. So for 3k difference whatís the saving in quality as we all know LM arenít exactly known for their cheap prices.

    I feel it would be perfect in an office set up like what Iím contemplating, this and a gs3 AV. You really only need to teach how to steam milk. The rest is therefore done.

    Still think it might be better to go a mythos but Iíll hold my judgement for now.
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    Presume it's based on the etzMax light ($3.5k give or take)? Have they published any pricing yet? Given more complex and the usual LM ransom, I am curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty888 View Post
    ...You really only need to teach how to steam milk...
    ...and to clean the steam wand!

    Office machines are nearly always hideous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    ...and to clean the steam wand!

    Office machines are nearly always hideous.

    Sadly, I've seen the same in cafe's.

    Automatic walk out for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    ...and to clean the steam wand!

    Office machines are nearly always hideous.
    Yes I forgot to mention that part. Luckily for my this set up will be in the showroom which is right in front of my office.

    Good part in running a small business. Thereís not 50 people to blame. Just a few
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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty888 View Post
    Luckily for my this set up will be in the showroom which is right in front of my office.
    Ah, within taser distance.
    That should help keep it clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Ah, within taser distance.
    That should help keep it clean.
    Good thought. ATO will clearly understand that deduction. Fair work perhaps not.

    But realistically it will be myself, my wife or a receptionist using the machine.

    Although I wonít be in all the time Iíd like to think I could make the coffees and chat to the staff so clean up will be limited for others.



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