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    Macap M4 Vs Gaggia MDF

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    Yes i know these are in totally different price/quality brackets, but as I have just purchased the Macap & still have the Gaggia I thought I would share my views on the difference between Grinders that cost $300 compared to about $800

    1. Looks - No contest here, the Gaggia is a great looking match for the Classic machine but is dwarfed by the VBM, while the Macap has that size & bling to suit the VBM

    .2 Noise - I guess this is what you pay for with the Macap, very quiet compared to the Gaggia

    3. Grinding - Now we get serious - the adjustment is infinitely greater on the M4(Micrometrical) while the Gaggia has rather large steps.
    I found with the VBM i needed a setting halfway btween 5 & 6 on the MDF. Worked great for the Classic.

    5. Dosing - I grind as reqd so I dont use the doser, although note that the Macap has Adjustable dosing the Gaggia is fixed.
    The Macap sweeps a lot cleaner & has a nicer feel to the lever.

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    Re: Macap M4 Vs Gaggia MDF

    I like my Macap.

    Yours and its VBM mate do look nice and shiny together.

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    Re: Macap M4 Vs Gaggia MDF

    I guess its like comparing a ducati to a vespa.......

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    Re: Macap M4 Vs Gaggia MDF

    Quote Originally Posted by VISAT link=1189821209/0#0 date=1189821209
    Yes i know these are in totally different price/quality brackets, but as I have just purchased the Macap & still have the Gaggia I thought I would share my views on the difference between Grinders that cost $300 compared to about $800

    1. Looks - No contest here, the Gaggia is a great looking match for the Classic machine but is dwarfed by the VBM, while the Macap has that size & bling to suit the VBM

    .2 Noise - I guess this is what you pay for with the Macap, very quiet compared to the Gaggia

    3. Grinding - Now we get serious - the adjustment is infinitely greater on the M4(Micrometrical) while the Gaggia has rather large steps.
    I found with the VBM i needed a setting halfway btween 5 & 6 on the MDF. Worked great for the Classic.

    5. Dosing - I grind as reqd so I dont use the doser, although note that the Macap has Adjustable dosing the Gaggia is fixed.
    The Macap sweeps a lot cleaner & has a nicer feel to the lever.

    PICS:
    http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c392/VISAT/Vibiemme004.jpg
    http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c392/VISAT/Vibiemme013.jpg
    http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c392/VISAT/Vibiemme014.jpg
    :)

    4. Quality of grind?
    Just curious to know about the differences in grind uniformity etc.
    If the the MDF happened to be dialled in correctly at a specific grind setting could you notice the difference in the cup when using the Macap?

    cheers

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    Re: Macap M4 Vs Gaggia MDF

    Yep missed no 4 there! :P
    I would say consistency of the grind was better in the Macap, all grinds looked the same (even)
    while the MDF would sometimes show some different sizing in the grinds, usually some small "flakes" that were a bit bigger than the rest.

    Didnt do any back to back tests of grinding in each then espressing in the VBM because the Gaggia sold the next day! ::)

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    Re: Macap M4 Vs Gaggia MDF

    Gday VISAT,

    I guess when it comes right down to it, the whole "grinder quality" versus "quality in the cup" is very subjective. However, when I swapped my Rocky for a full commercial La San Marco grinder and using French Press/Plunger as the brewing method, the difference in the cup was quite astounding and totally unexpected, since all I set out to do was to buy a grinder with a decent doser.

    The resulting brews seem to have a much broader landscape of flavour distinction in that individual flavour nuances seem to be much more clearly identifiable with the overall brew possessing a clarity of flavour that seemed to be missing with the Rocky. This is just my perspective of course but I have noticed other people reporting similar impressions and in the end, that is all it is.... Personal impressions but I hope these thoughts help you out a bit,

    Cheers,
    Mal.



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