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    Vale Mahlkonig Vario

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    Look away Tampit.

    Sad news that the Mahlkonig Vario is to be no more.

    https://www.mahlkoenig.de/index.php/...duct-portfolio

    Presumably this does not affect availability of the Baratza Vario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otago View Post
    Look away Tampit.

    Sad news that the Mahlkonig Vario is to be no more.

    https://www.mahlkoenig.de/index.php/...duct-portfolio

    Presumably this does not affect availability of the Baratza Vario.
    G'day Otago

    I heard about it a few years back as a rumour. Not surprised - Swiss engineering is expensive (but any quality engineering is worth it in my view), and the smaller Dittings (the gen2 Vario is actually a Ditting module under the bonnet) are only a little larger physically (and a lot more robust - they handle abuse pretty well). At over twice the price and presumably well over twice the profit which would you sell to people? "As Mahlkönig focusses even more on the premium segment" says it all. Their "overnight sensation", the EK43 must be a licence to print money. FYI, it is an updated copy of a mid '80's Malhkoenig grinder that remains one of the best grinders I have encountered (an initial augur feeding large vertically mounted burrs seems to do all textures well).

    That impending cessation one of the reasons I bought a third Vario. Mind you, I also expected my oldest gen2 to be dead and buried by now (gen2, Nov 2013, 300Kgs+ workload) instead of still having identical looking burrs and mechanism to the newest one (gen3, 2016, perhaps 5Kgs of work). Not bad considering the oldest one has spent quite a while as a stopgap in different cafes with different staff (and presumably different levels of TLC).

    FWIW, I reckon the (deserved) bad press the original Baratza Vario received also hits Vario's later sales - even though the Mahlkoenig gen2 is an A to Z redesign using Swiss Ditting parts. Shades of the Sette - although I really do not know how much of an improvement the newer Settes are. The original Sette was also (legitimately) canned for being too noisy (it woke up a neighbour two doors down one afternoon) and unreliable.

    Anyway, the original Vario caused domestic grinders to massively improve their particle spread and grind retention so we are all better off "in the cuppa".

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    Ahh that's a shame... was highly considering this as a potential next grinder down the line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsk8r View Post
    Ahh that's a shame... was highly considering this as a potential next grinder down the line!
    Me too. (Does that make me part of a movement?)

    Might pick up one for future use when age precludes use of the HG1.

    Are Baratza parts interchangeable?, - in case Mahlkonig parts dry up in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otago View Post
    Me too. (Does that make me part of a movement?)

    Might pick up one for future use when age precludes use of the HG1.

    Are Baratza parts interchangeable?, - in case Mahlkonig parts dry up in the future.
    Haha I guess so!

    Unsure if they're interchangeable..

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    No they're not interchangeable on the V2 or later (good ones)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otago View Post
    Me too. (Does that make me part of a movement?)

    Might pick up one for future use when age precludes use of the HG1.

    Are Baratza parts interchangeable?, - in case Mahlkonig parts dry up in the future.
    G'day Otago


    "Are Baratza parts interchangeable?" L3N says no, I suspect he is correct as my Mahlkoenig gen2 is not the same performance as a mates "Why didn't I buy it cheap on evilbay's" Baratza gen2. When we compared them I had to resist the old "I told you so". Half the price and 1/4 the quality in the cuppa... bargain...

    BTW, I noticed all the newer & dearer Mahlkoenigs are back to steel burrs - according to their own (earlier) blurb, the ceramic ones last three times longer. My cynical side wonders if they want a few burr sales, as I cannot imagine too many gen2+ Vario owners needing new ones... 300+Kgs and still unmarked is astonishing for a domestic sized grinder! A lot of the commercial Italian grinders clag their burrs in anything from 80 to 200Kgs - those burrs may still spin for the next 100 years, however the coffee they produce is undrinkable swill as their particle spread has long since gone to custard. That is the most common "friend's cafe fault" I encounter when they call for help. Easy to test - just put a few grinds on a piece of white / pale paper and check the evenness with a magnifying glass. Too many "logs" and too much "fine powder" and the burrs are shot. Sometimes just rubbing the grounds between your fingers is enough - too much brown between your fingers ridges and there are too many fines (and the burrs are shot...).

    The Mahlkoenig web site stated they are clearing their Varios out - perhaps it is worth a browse?

    FWIW, if needed I may just bite the bullet, grit my teeth & write the (much larger) cheque and get the same module in whichever "7xx" (or whatever model) Ditting has it that week. Hopefully by the time that happens someone else will make a true equivalent.

    TampIt



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