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    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Thanks to Chris from Talk Coffee for my new Compak K10 Silencio!

    It takes pride of place on my bench at work, eclipsing the K8 and the Mini, and banishing the Chimbali Magnum to the lock-up storage facility!

    Without a doubt the K10 has revolutionized the way that I make coffee, by offering greater control and finesse in creating the end product, combined with ergonomics and styling, not to mention performance, which is complimentary to heavy use.

    Cheers, and thanks agin,

    Pat

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    Hi Pat,

    Im absolutely thrilled that youre happy with the K10!

    They are a gutsy grinder and I reckon they offer incredible bang for buck- especially when you look at the bucks required to get a Robur these days....

    Hope it brings in the bucks that little bit faster ;-)

    Thanks for your support!

    Chris

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    Re: compak k10

    Hi Pat,

    well done,

    if its not to much trouble, how bout expanding on your comments above, by way of a simple side by side comparison/review?

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    hmm... not too sure about a side by side comparison - Ive got four grinders at work, and two at home: so Im not sure they would all fit on the same benchtop!

    what I will say, however, is that the K10 has excellent ergonomics, and is much more responsive to the needs of the busy barista, than the other grinders I have used, for the following reasons:

    1. Compared to the K8, the K10 is much quicker when it comes to grinding, which means no messing around waiting for enough grind for a decent dose, it also means that, when youre busy at least, you can flick the machine on, wait 10secs or so, and then flick it off again, then youve got enough grind to keep you going for a few minutes. As opposed to the K8 where youve pretty much gotta keep the grinder going the whole time to keep up. This also means in theory at least that the blades should not heat up too much, as theyre being used less often (compared to the K8)

    2. Theree much greater finesse to the grind compared to my old (now boxed and stored for emergencies!) La Chimbali Magnum, which, although of comparable grinding speed, produced a much coarser grind due to the larger spacing adjustments

    3. The K10 seems to have got dosing just right: Im assuming, and correct me if Im wrong, that Compak have actually sat down with some of the worlds top baristi and together come up with some cool and functional ergonomics which are both practical and easy to use on this machine

    Such as the dosing, which seems to be far less influenced by the amount of grind (up to a point) that you have in the dosing chamber, and it seems to collect more of the grind with each sweep, i.e. leaving less grind behind than other machines

    4. Also along the same lines, and not to be overlooked, is the conveniently located and nicely cushioned on / off rocker switch. Why didnt someone think of this earlier? The switch itself is located on the bottom right and side of the machine, which means that you can easily dose and / or swith the machine on off at the same time - as opposed to the K8, where the on off switch is located on the bottom LEFT hand side of the machine, which is not so easy to get to.

    5. The stepless micrometrical adjustment of the 68mm connical burr blades, combined with a revolutions-reducer grinding system effectively means that you dont have to worry about the beans overheating.

    And the over-all sensation on the palate of this revolutionary (excuse the pun - sometimes I cant help myself!) technology, is that you get a much clearer / cleaner expression of the coffee, with bright pronounced acidity, and fuller fruit flavours in the the coffee. In addition to which the coffee oils themselves appear to remain more intact, and there is a greater fleshy flavour to the mid palate.

    6. Less tangible but no less significant is the the lovely quiet purr that this machine makes when its in operation. In a hectic workplace having to put up with a noisy grinder is just one more thing that can get on your nerves! But not with this baby! As this machine purrs and is a pleasure to listen to when in operation


    All of this adds up to a fuller and more flavoursome coffee, which takes no extra time to produce, assuming of course that youre starting off with quality ingredients in the first place!

    Describing the individual merits of this grinder does not really do justice to the full impact of its over-all performance and ease of use.

    Its a bit like an enjoyable fine dining experience, you cant always say what sets one establishment apart from another, but you know it if it aint working for you!

    Hope this explains things a bit better

    Cheers,

    Patrick

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    And the over-all sensation on the palate of this revolutionary (excuse the pun - sometimes I cant help myself!) technology, is that you get a much clearer / cleaner expression of the coffee, with bright pronounced acidity, and fuller fruit flavours in the the coffee. In addition to which the coffee oils themselves appear to remain more intact, and there is a greater fleshy flavour to the mid palate.
    Are you serious?
    Could you blind taste test the K8 and the K10 and pick the difference?

    PS: good pun.

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    Theres definitely a pronounced flavour difference between the two, not sure that i could pick the difference in a blind tasting, but Ive drunk enough coffees from both machines to detect a fuller bodied espresso from the K10, I may be wrong here, but in my opinion a lot of it comes down to a more even dose from the K10

    Even so, my comment was a general one, as a comparision between the K10, and other machines I have used. If you stacked the K10 against, say, the Magnum for instance, Im certain that the flavour profile would be much more pronounced, especially for an espresso, coming from the K10

    Thats not to say that the K8 is not a great machine, it is!

    But even watching the pour from the K10 you can observe a darker crema which takes noticeably longer to blond.

    It would be good to use a naked portfailter on the two, to measure, time, and observe the difference.

    I guess that main thing for me as an operator is that the K10, whilst still needing a high degree of user know-how, seems to leave less to chance, and when it comes to more than one person using the machine over the space of the day, that can only be a good thing.

    Cheers,

    P

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    Gday ATCG,

    I read a review of sorts on Home Barista a while ago, and there seemed to be some concern over the quality of finish mentioned there, on this page.....

    What are your impressions mate, say compared to the venerable Mazzer?

    Mal.

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    I have no concerns about the quality of the finish of the WBC K10 - as far as Im concerned they are a well constructed machine.

    And as for a comparison with the venerable Mazzer, I think it just comes down to personal preference. The K10 looks like a newer, smarter machine, in my opinion. But thats just my opinion.

    One small gripe I do have is that the cone-shaped attachment, which attaches to the grind adjustment mechanism, can get in the way of the dosing chamber.

    When you adjust your grind the cone can end up above the chamber, and this makes it impossible to get the lid off, to sweep back into the chamber.

    I suspect that as time wears on and the machine is put through its paces, the grind will naturally adjust out somewhat, leaving the cone located in a more user-friendly position.

    In the meantime weve got around this little problem by removing the device altogether. Kind of defeats the purpose of having it there in the first place, though.

    Still, the machine is functioning soundly without it, and Im making better coffee than ever - so its a small price to pay, really, in the scheme of things.

    Cheers,

    ACG

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    Sounds good mate.... I guess all machines will have a niggle or two to most owners. In all respects though from what Ive read and been able to see from photos, it is very well built and should stand the test of the ages. Really interested in your comments about the differences noticed in the cup. Quite astounding really. When I went up from the Rocky to my current LSM, I thought the quality leap in the cup was so great that further improvements would be marginal at best, so it just goes to show you.

    Very interesting read atcg,

    Mal.

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    For a heavy duty conical burr grinder you cant beat the Compak K10s bang for back versus the Mazzer Robur.

    And the Compak K10 certainly leaves the Mazzer Kony for dead in the output "stakes".



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