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    Assistance for first puchase please

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    We have recently bought a Sunbeam EM6910 coffee machine for our office and we thought we may have already had a grinder tucked away. *Turns out it was one of those sh!tty spice grinders - no good *:(. *So now I need to source a grinder so we can start making use of our machine.

    Criteria we have are:

    • Price limit of $300
    • Minimal mess is important *:)
    • Minimal noise would be nice
    • Need a decent grind to go with the machine above


    Any advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks, Steph

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Hi Steph,

    Im afraid to say that for that amount of money I dont think that you can have everything on your list. The ascaso i-mini and the iberital challenge deliver great grind quality and adjustability for the money, but they sound like a loud vacuum cleaner and they are a bit messy. I imagine that the Gaggia MDF will be worse on the grind quality front, might be better on the noise front and will be similar on the mess front. The sunbeam grinder will be pretty noisy, deliver a worse grind than the ascaso/iberital and probably on par with the MDF and will be about the same as the rest on the mess front.

    To drop the noise down, I would say that you would need to buy something like a rancilio rocky or above. The Compak K3 at about $500 is probably the best value.

    Cheers,

    Luca

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Quote Originally Posted by luca link=1201427806/0#1 date=1201428105
    Hi Steph,Im afraid to say that for that amount of money I dont think that you can have everything on your list.
    Of everything I put on the list, the noise is probably the least important. Mess could be a big problem though.

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Think about the MDF then.
    Im using one at work with a 6910.
    Its not messy.

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Yeh, I agree with TG. Nothing else. Unless you goto that Auction site and pick up a second hand Gino Rossi RR45 - which is a good option.

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Stephiej,

    Mess is a problem with most doserless grinders, since your mountain of coffee spills over the top, plus often the grind will tend to "spray" raher than politely drop.

    There are plenty of strategies to overcome the mess, the simplest is to grind into a cup and then transfer it into the PF, you can also cut the bottom off a cup so that it fits snugly onto the PF and grind through this.
    Others have modified the spouts or added funnels, you can also cut down a milk carton to work as a shroud around the grinder.

    Other methods include a gentle tap [to settle the grinds] midway through the grind to keep things a bit more level.

    If you spend a few hours on this site, youll dig up plenty of ideas since were a pretty resourceful lot.

    It comes down to what works best for you.

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Hi Steph,

    All the wise people above have provided valuable recommendations.
    Note that if precision of grind size, that helps you achieve a higher control over the flavor in a cup is of an interest to you, the MDF would not deliver that well, but the ascaso i-mini and the iberital challenge will, as both have a micrometric adjustment. Minimizing the mess, you can go on to the iberital doser model, though itll be much noisier than the i-mini and certainly less stylish....

    Recapping options for you under $300.00:

    Ascaso i-mini: doserless, micrometric, small foot print, polish aluminum body, great look, messy, noise level: medium, Spanish
    Isomac Granmacinino: doserless, stepped, small foot-print, stainless Steel body and adjustment ring, great look, messy, noise level: medium-high, Italian
    Iberital Challenge Doser: doser (less mess), taller than the 2 grinders above, bigger hopper (500gr), non-adjustable dosing, noise level: high, Spanish
    Iberital Challenge Doserless: as the grinder above, just with no doser, so more mess, yet obviously the advantage of grinding fresh as you go.

    Our full range of grinders is available on: http://www.dibartoli.com.au/Grinders.html

    For prices, or if you wish to further discuss any of the options, you can give me a buzz on: 02-9389 9892 or email to: ofra@dibartoli.com.au, thanks Ofra

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Quote Originally Posted by stephiej link=1201427806/0#2 date=1201428388
    Quote Originally Posted by luca link=1201427806/0#1 date=1201428105
    Hi Steph,Im afraid to say that for that amount of money I dont think that you can have everything on your list.
    Of everything I put on the list, the noise is probably the least important. Mess could be a big problem though.
    Unless you are in an apartment and your kitchen is next to your living room. Then nobody can talk if you are grinding. Or you wake people up in the morning and you are not yet in the mood to make other people coffees. :P

    Mess is an easy fix, just have a little brush or dustbuster handy.

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Quote Originally Posted by recurve boy link=1201427806/0#7 date=1201580828
    Quote Originally Posted by stephiej link=1201427806/0#2 date=1201428388
    Quote Originally Posted by luca link=1201427806/0#1 date=1201428105
    Hi Steph,Im afraid to say that for that amount of money I dont think that you can have everything on your list.
    Of everything I put on the list, the noise is probably the least important. Mess could be a big problem though.
    Unless you are in an apartment and your kitchen is next to your living room. Then nobody can talk if you are grinding. Or you wake people up in the morning and you are not yet in the mood to make other people coffees. :P
    Mess is an easy fix, just have a little brush or dustbuster handy.
    I use a small SS jug or grind into a metal coffee can. (Grinder is other side of Kitchen :-( ) Thus little static (EM480) and then scoop and fill the PF at the coffee machine.. Works for me and my wife.

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    My bosses have given me the go-ahead to get the Iberital Challenge. Does anyone know where I might be able to get a good price in Sydney?

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    How about Di Bartoli

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    I have to disagree with luca on the grind quality comment of the MDF. I own one and am in a position to know.

    The grind quality will be very good. You will not have any issues with one of these and it is equal to the iberital challenge.

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Agreed lucinda.
    My MDF has no grind quality issues.

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please

    Quote Originally Posted by lucinda link=1201427806/0#11 date=1202020055
    I have to disagree with luca on the grind quality comment of the MDF. I own one and am in a position to know.

    The grind quality will be very good. You will not have any issues with one of these and it is equal to the iberital challenge.
    Yep, I support both Lucindas and TGs comments....

    The MDF is a well designed and ruggedly built domestic grinder that uses commercial burr-plates like a lot of other more highly priced grinders. The only criticism that may be valid is in relation to the large step changes between grind settings, not that dissimilar to that of a Rocky. I used to own a Rocky and never found that to be a hindrance.... Its like everything, you get used to how to get the best out of the equipment you have and never look back. :)

    All the best Stephie,
    Mal.

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    Re: Assistance for first puchase please


    From experience with the MDF (as I own one) it is extremely loud and really slow (over 40sec for a double from memory).

    There are no grind issues and the build quality is excellent. I did end up using 1/2 settings though, as the steps are quite large. Definitely a grinder that is needlessly overlooked IMO.

    just my $0.05

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    Mark.



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