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    Gino Rossi MC

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    I managed to get my hands on a G Rossi MC (conical) grinder.
    It looks in good condition and runs smoothly and quietly.

    With my internet down and a busy weekend Ive only had time so far to do a quick test and clean the hopper.

    The doser sweeps very clean but before using it Id like advice on how to clean it.
    Unlike my Macap, it hasnt been stored in the best of conditions for the last few weeks and Id like to ensure its clean before passing coffee through it.

    P.S. weighs 19.3kg and dwarfs the Macap.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Good catch TG [smiley=thumbsup.gif],

    Theyre HUGE alright :o. I guess its the same as for any grinder really, strip the top section back so that you can access all parts that come into contact with coffee. Unless it makes any strange noises there probably isnt any reason to strip it back to the bare motor, etc but maybe if you just want to know that all is good, this might be a worthwhile thing to do.

    Would probably be a good (and healthy) idea to strip the Doser down and give it a thorough cleaning, you never know what might have crawled in there while its been sitting around waiting for you to find it. Should be a real beauty though once you get her ship-shape 8-). All the best mate,

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Great pickup TG *8-).

    The MC is an excellent workhorse and I have had them in a few cafes. Give it a good once over as Mal has suggested and you should have the last grinder youll ever buy. If its done a heap of work, you may have to throw some new burrs at it, but other than that youll be in conical heaven.

    Are we going to see a Macap up in the for sale section shortly *:-??

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Congratulations TG. Will look forward to your reviews and comparison with your Macap. :)

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Does that make it 4 grinders in your quiver now?!?!

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Yes 4 but the Sunbeam needs a part.

    No chance the Macap will be up for sale.
    It fits nicely on the kitchen bench.

    I was hoping to avoiding stripping it down too far as it runs smoothly and looking from the top the burrs look good.

    Thanks for the congrats guys.
    The review will come after its cleaned, dialled in and trialled.

    Ill put up some before pics as soon as I can.


    What I need to know is what I should be using to clean the doser with.

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    Well done TG - its good to see that even with a high end grinder like the Macap upgraditis is alive and well:)

    Cheers

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    ....when are you changing your handle to include the new grinder!

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    Good stiff brush, a small vacuum, and possibly some alcohol wipes. Disassembling the sweeping mechanism shouldnt be too much of a problem, as long as you dont forget how to reassemble it. If its anything like the other Rossi grinders, grounds also like to get "glued" on the inside of the chute. Give that a good going-over as well.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    ozscott - no upgraditis - just a bargain.
    Ill add grinder when my internet is back up properly.

    nunu - thanks - I have the brush and vacuum. Ill check the chute.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Maybe you could donate one of your grinders to a poor cafe owner who cant afford a grinder for decaf? ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1202625113/0#5 date=1202679140
    What I need to know is what I should be using to clean the doser with.
    As nunu already said above plus if there are some really stubborn tarry oil build-ups in the doser or any other part of the coffee path, a good soak in a hot solution of Cafetto works wonders..... At least for those bits that you can disassemble and soak ;),

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    In some cases, a tiny plastic scraper, used as a chisel, might be the go too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1202625113/0#10 date=1202712531
    Maybe you could donate one of your grinders to a poor cafe owner who cant afford a grinder for decaf? *;D

    I cant afford a decaf grinder for my cafe ala my kitchen. ;) Although I dont drink decaf..... ::)

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC


    Having cleaned a used grinder before, I can recommend isopropyl alcohol for almost instant removal of coffee oils. Its an excellent solvent for this purpose as it is safe to use with acrylic and doesnt evaprate too quickly. Almost miraculous in its cleaning ability.


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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Thanks all.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Pictures:

    Gino and his new friends.


    Burr shot - 01


    Burr shot - 02


    Burr shot - 03


    Evidence of "baristas" whacking the pf on the side of Gino.


    Ive decided I will need to pull it down for a thorough clean.


    Are the photos good enough to comment on the state of the burrs?

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    Those burrs look to be in pretty good nick TG..... Have you tried using it yet, just out of curiosity?

    Mal.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Not yet Mal.

    I know it runs quietly and the beans that were left in the hopper went through without any trouble.

    Now that Ive taken the top burr off Id have to dial it in so if Im going to give it a thorough clean Id rather only pull it apart once.

    The burrs do look OK to me.
    No obvious chips etc.
    They dont feel razor sharp (should they?) but look nice overall.

    The Macap will keep me going until Im ready to do a side by side taste test.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    TG,

    Congrats on your new grinder.

    Yep, those burrs look pretty good to me.

    They dont need to be razor sharp but shouldnt feel dull (with a rounded edge).... especially the bottom third of the conical which does the fine grinding. The top (bean breaking) and middle (coarse grinding) are no where near as critical and normally manage to stay pretty sharp.

    Its the bottom third that do all the serious work and they need to have a bit of an edge on them if they are to perform at their best (but certainly not razor sharp - even when new).

    Ill be interested to see how you go with the comparison. I find the combined conical/flat DRM a LOT more forgiving when it comes to grind size adjustments.... I had to change the LC jnr grinder heaps more to track the beans as they age, humidity changes etc in order to get a correct pour. Will be interesting to see if you find the same.

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    Nice to know.

    The Macap is pretty easy to track the beans with.
    I dont need to move more than a notch or two either way.
    But I am mostly drinking my Kimel.

    When I try a different bean the first shot may be out but its quickly dialled in, knowing the Macap as I do.

    Ill post back here again with some progress photos and when done cleaning Ill post again with a report on comparing to the Macap.

    I dont see myself using the Rosi much as you can see it doesnt allow the kitchen cupboards to open. ;D

    It was a bargain I couldnt pass on.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1202625113/15#20 date=1203243366
    I dont see myself using the Rosi much as you can see it doesnt allow the kitchen cupboards to open. ;D
    Ahhhh...

    You need some hopper surgery ;)

    Masking tape wrapped around the hopper at the appropriate point..... a hacksaw with a fine blade.... and your hopper wont feel a thing :o

    I reduced the DRM hopper to about 1/3 (I grind on demand in any case). The hopper is rectangular so the lid still fitted perfectly after the surgery - and the grinder fits under the above bench cupboards. It looks like yours might taper and that could cause a problem but Im sure a solution can be found...... and then it wont dominate quite so much!

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    No way JavaB.

    I would consider a makeshift hopper but the original will stay intact in case it leaves me for a new owner some time in the future.
    It will probably outlive me so it deserves to stay whole.

    By the way, its not tapered.

    Im sure your sawing tip will come in handy for someone.

    Im still awestruck by the size of the thing.
    My Macap is a big solid beast but the Rossie dwarfs it.
    The collar of the Rossi is about level with the top of the hopper on the Macap.

    The Macap weighs 9kg, the Rossi over 19kg.
    The hoppers are 0.6 and 1.6kg respectively and the doser capacity 200g to 360g.
    Height is 470mm vs 660mm.

    Grinding capacity 3 - 4kg/hour for the MAcap vs 18kg/hour on the Rossi. :o

    Some people here, I know, would love to have a Macap.
    The Rossi makes it look like a toy.

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    Wow that a great find....was it an evilbay buy? There was one just ended there when we started looking.

    I find its funny what people say about the size of grinders. Every time I mention Mazzer Major to anyone they say "geee have you got space for that, there is no way I could have that on my bench". There sure is a big difference in the size but wowa there is a large difference is whats going on in there. I guess overhead cupboards show the extra hight more as its the space above that gets "seen". The Major sits in our place well and we can still get in the front door :)

    I guess in my mind its the 18kg/hr v 3-4kg/hr that "makes me giggle". But why not use it..you appreciate your coffee and this think is going to help with that appreciation (all be it at 18kg/hr, he he)

    I say 3 cheers for the MC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1202625113/15#22 date=1203251411
    No way JavaB.

    I would consider a makeshift hopper but the original will stay intact in case it leaves me for a new owner some time in the future.
    It will probably outlive me so it deserves to stay whole.

    Well TG the answers obvious.......................................cut a big circular hole into the base of your over head cupboard................when you need to fill the hopper, just open the door.
    Im sure Mrs TG will approve!


    Nice beastie btw, well done.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    That burrset looks fine TG... nice pickup indeed!

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    Man, once you try it out you will want it as your primary grinder, they are just awesome and very easily dialed in as well as forgiving enough in their construction to allow for minor adjustment between shots. I have 2 of them, one for decaf (mocha java of course) and they simply rock, I also grind on demand unless I have a number of friends over and then I will let the doser chamber fill up to the point of switching itself off.

    A truly professional grind every time, youll love it............ Ray.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    You can always put the grinder near the window.

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    Re: Gino Rossi MC

    snooooze - No. Not the bay of evils. My son works at an auction house and he told me about it coming in.

    reubster - funny - Ive only been studying karate for 33 years; Im not ready yet to take on the wife.

    MarcS - thanks.

    Ray - well see.

    nunu - true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1202625113/15#28 date=1203322470
    reubster - funny - Ive only been studying karate for 33 years; Im not ready yet to take on the wife.
    Smart man TG ;)

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    Actually it looks to me like it would fit on the right of your machine...

    /me ducks for cover



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