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    Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Well Ive started on the CS slippery slope by purchasing a Sunbeam EM0480 grinder.

    Ive done a search and read through threads on here about leaving beans in the hopper, and it would seem the advice, particularly for my usage (1 or 2 cups of espresso in the mornings) would be that the beans shouldnt be left in the hopper between usage. Okay, that sounds reasonable, except for the fact that when I remove the bean hopper, there is a considerable amount of beans sitting inside the grinder above the burrs. To remove these involves unplugging the grinder and tipping it over a container to remove these beans. Quite fiddly to be done every day for just 1 cup of coffee, so Id like to ask the experts whether they feel it is good practice to completely empty the hopper and grinder everyday?

    Thanks in advance for any helpful advice based on your own usage and expereince.

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Most of us just measure out enough beans for the shot you are pulling and keep the rest of your beans in a one-way valve bag to keep them fresh. If you measure out the amount of beans you are going to use in your portafilter basket you should be fairly close. I have a little plastic scoop and 3 of those fill my 21g basket with a little to spare.
    You will always have a fair bit of c.......p in the Sunbeam, its a good little grinder but messy!!!

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    I use a Rocky with my VBM and like greenman I just weigh out one dose (18 gm), dump it in the grinder and grind until its finished.
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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Versatile,

    Welcome to CoffeeSnobs....

    Many of us (I suspect most who are really serious) only grind enough beans each time to make the current espressos..... measure the volume (or weight if you prefer) of beans.... tip em in the hopper and grind until the last bean has passed.

    That way no beans in the hopper going stale or in the burr assembly. I only fill my hopper (and then grind into the doser) when I have a large group and making lots of coffees in a very short time.... otherwise I "grind through" the doser as well.... which is basically dosing at the same time as grinding and continuing until the last bean from the measured volume has been ground and passed through the doser....

    Keep those stale beans/grinds out of your espressos!!

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    I agree with all of the above posts in theory except in reality I honestly feel you get a more consistent grind when the hopper is relatively full. I could be mental but when the beans are being pressed down by the weight of other beans it assists in achieving a consistent grind. When I run the grinder almost empty - with just enough for one shot - the beans jump around in the hopper like mexican jumping beans causing a slight chopping effect of the beans. Im not sure if it makes a significant difference to what ends up in the cup but the grind seems less consistent. Im not sure what the answer is because I know its not ideal to leave tons of coffee in the hopper either ???

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Weve had this argument before.
    I just close the hopper gate and theres less room for them to pop about.

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    The Bible - err owners manual - suggests keeping a quantity of beans in the hopper to maintain some pressure downwards. For what its worth!

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Whilst there maybe some "popping" of beans when the hopper is almost empty - and some unevenness of the resulting grain size..... the alternative IMHO is far worse.

    When the grinder is stopped with beans still passing through the burrs there are a lot of bean fragments (sizes varying from "ground" size to largish chunks) all trapped.

    These will deteriorate far faster (larger surface area) and also deposit coffee oils in the burr assembly whilst standing (and exposed to the air)..... the oils will go rancid and the bean fragments stale - and all this will go into your next brew.....

    I guess if you are a real purist you could put more than your dose in and then discard the last bit.... that way there would be pressure on the beans and, if ground until empty, no bean fragments trapped. To me that is "over the top!!"

    - or just drink coffee more often so they dont have a chance to go stale ;) ;D ;D ;D

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1207729262/0#7 date=1207869492
    or just drink coffee more often so they dont have a chance to go stale ;) ;D ;D ;D
    Now that is a solution!! :-)

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    I have had a Sunbeam 480 since November. I have learnt through practice to put in enough beans for the morning coffee/s by eye - I am to lazy to weight them ::). I do not leave any in the hopper and rarely any left in the burrs. I only occasionally get the beans bouncing around. You need to drink more coffee so you get more practice at put the right quantity of beans in the hopper ;).

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    I got pretty good at measuring by eye but now at home measure into a spare basket and have no left over grounds.
    I used to collect them for my sink shot at the end of each week after cleaning.

    At work I measure into the PF Im about to use.
    It works well.

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Beans hop around
    On many grinders the worthless tamper you get with many machines will sit in its throat giving a more even pressure on the beans while grinding and keeping the hopping to a minimum. :)


    Java "One use for a worthless excuse for a tamper!" phile

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Isnt that why its called a hopper?

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Hi all. New to the site.

    Just got a Sunbeam EM0480 myself today. So... if you put enough beans for one shot, is it okay to keep the grinder on til all the beans have passed through? ie. the last bit of grinder operation wont actually be grinding anything but air until you switch it off. Is this okay?

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Welcome to Coffee Snobs VC

    Yep!

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    Re: Sunbeam EM0480 - leaving beans in hopper?

    Welcome from me too.

    Thats how I do it.



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