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    Duchessa grinder - anyone know it?

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    Tonight I was finally inspired to start work on a coffee grinder which has been sitting on the floor of a garage, after it was salvaged from a cafe that was being rewired and refurbished some 35 years ago.

    Like so many others in this forum, its now my turn to have a restoration project *::)

    Ive tried to find some info on the Net about it and have found nothing.

    It carries the name Duchessa. Its hopper is heavy-gauge glass, while the doser chamber is thick plastic, which from what I can tell, is the only plastic on the machine.

    Its missing the lid to both the hopper and the doser chamber. The burrs are also missing. I imagine Ill be able to get them once I work out the size (around 70mm). In its current state it weighs just over 20kg.

    Im not sure what its power requirements are. Im told it may be 2 or 3 phase. Its power cord has had the plug removed. The cord is thick rubber carrying four wires. (You can tell Im no sparky!)

    Ive attached some pics.

    Has anybody come across this brand/model or know anything about them?


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    Re: Duchessa grinder - anyone know it?

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    If it has 4 wires it is has 2 active lines, 1 neutral and 1 earth/ground. By the way, before you start any kind of work, Id suggest you ask a local sparky re-do some of the wiring! Its all frayed and stick out where it shouldnt be....especially the active line (BLUE).

    Good luck on the project. The last few photos look awesome with it all shined up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes - David S link=1209217015/0#4 date=1209218769
    If it has 4 wires it is has 2 active lines, 1 neutral and 1 earth/ground.
    Hmmm,

    Not necessarily, more likely to be 3-Phase + Earth. You wouldnt connect a Neutral into a Dual-Phase connection, much too likely to risk causing circulating currents within the motor windings. Id definitely employ the services of a qualified industrial electrician though, to check all this out for you before firing it up Joe.

    But what a magic looking grinder though 8-).... almost looks like a limb from a Michelin Man ;). If it turns out that you can get the parts you need to bring it back to original, it will certainly look terrific sitting next to the espresso machine. Hope you can get her rejuvenated mate :),

    Cheers,
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    Beautiful looking retro piece.

    I love that glasss hopper.

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    Re: Duchessa grinder - anyone know it? Update

    I wrote to Enrico Maltoni (he of The Collection) shortly after I made my original post here and received a reply this morning. 8-)

    It turns out he has a Duchessa `1-group machine.

    For the record:

    The brand Duchessa started in 1954 in Parma, Italy.

    In 1960 it changed its name to Ducale, the name it still uses today. These days it makes only espresso vending machines.

    Heres a pic of the grinder partnered by a machine made by the same company (interesting hopper).




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    WOW.... that is sooo nice!!

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    That is a stunning display of design. Makes you want to jump into your pink Cadillac El Dorado, cruise down to Lygon Street while Bobby Rydell belts out "Do the Cha Cha Cha" from the push-button car radio...

    Then you order a doppio, feast the eyes on the machinery as you wait, distracted only by the maestro behind the counter pulling the levers....

    Sigh. Why dont they make beautiful things like that anymore...

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    Wow! Thats awesome!

    If you wrote to Enrico, Im sure that he would be able to give you the lowdown on the grinder. Alternatively, his "Espresso Made In Italy" book might have some info.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Duchessa grinder - anyone know it?

    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1209217015/0#9 date=1209464657
    Sigh. Why dont they make beautiful things like that anymore...
    I notice now you can buy retro-looking *fridges and stoves.

    Maybe its a matter of time before a full-on manual retro single group machine makes its way onto the market....(he says, wishfully.....)

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    WOW - thats super-cush.
    Thatd look great on my bench ;)

    I cant get over that Glass hopper too - v.nice - Ill swap it with my Super Jolly if you want - looks like itd fit ;)

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    At the risk (a high risk) of going off topic, Joe, not all retro is attractive. Round-shouldered, cream fridges were not, in my opinion, nor were many stoves, and certainly the "new" Chrysler cruiser is ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1209217015/0#13 date=1209520788
    Round-shouldered, cream fridges were not, in my opinion, nor were many stoves, and certainly the "new" Chrysler cruiser is ugly.
    To tell the truth, I dont mind those fridges :-[. They remind me of the fridges of my childhood.
    Youre right about the Cruiser, though - bleh!

    Quote Originally Posted by luca link=1209217015/0#10 date=1209464832
    If you wrote to Enrico, Im sure that he would be able to give you the lowdown on the grinder. Alternatively, his "Espresso Made In Italy" book might have some info.
    Weve been in touch a couple of times this week. Hes quite helpful, but his specialty is machines, not grinders apparently.

    I was hoping that he knew of a grinder museum, but he said he didnt know of one for electric grinders. (which begs the question....)

    He suggested that I will probably have to make the lids myself using dark teflon. (I had asked him if he knew of a place that sold old grinder parts.)

    I might give the book a go, though. I like the look of it.



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