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    Demo Grinders

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    Hello all,
    A bit of a weird request but here goes.
    Is there anywhere where one could hire or demo a coffee grinder from?
    I detect the early stages of upgraditis, and I need to make sure of the potential choice before I fully commit to it.
    I know it can be done for cars and snow skis (probably other items as well), but Ive never heard of this particular scenario.
    Mrs Lovey is very obliging in relation to my [s]habit[/s] hobby, but I dont think that it would extend to me shelling out for a new grinder, then turning around and selling it again because I didnt like it ::).
    Thanks for not laughing at me, out loud at least ;D
    Steve.

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    Re: Demo Grinders

    What type you after? Im guessing something better than the "ECM Best"?

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    Re: Demo Grinders

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey link=1219642467/0#0 date=1219642466
    Hello all,
    A bit of a weird request but here goes.
    Is there anywhere where one could hire or demo a coffee grinder from?
    I detect the early stages of upgraditis, and I need to make sure of the potential choice before I fully commit to it.
    I know it can be done for cars and snow skis (probably other items as well), but Ive never heard of this particular scenario.
    Mrs Lovey is very obliging in relation to my [s]habit[/s] hobby, but I dont think that it would extend to me shelling out for a new grinder, then turning around and selling it again because I didnt like it *::).
    Thanks for not laughing at me, out loud at least ;D
    Steve.
    Hi Steve- Talk Coffee does it but alas, only for Melbourneites....The freight would kill you ;-)

    Chris

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    Re: Demo Grinders

    If youre up this way on a weekend you can try my EM0450.








    Ive also got a Macap and a Gino Rossi depending on budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1219642467/0#1 date=1219643172
    What type you after? Im guessing something better than the "ECM Best"?
    I was looking at a stepless & doserless type, probably a Compak K3T.
    I dont think the budget would reach to a mini E or a M4/5D *:(

    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman link=1219642467/0#2 date=1219644117
    Hi Steve- Talk Coffee does it but alas, only for Melbourneites....The freight would kill you ;-)
    Chris
    Thats if TNT didnt kill the grinder first *;D
    Thanks for the info Chris.

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    Your next best option is to find a show room (Di Bartoli or CosmoreX for instance if you are out that way) and have a play and discussion about your needs/ wants[smiley=evil.gif]

    Much harder for snobs not in a big city tho :(

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    Re: Demo Grinders

    Just a side; is there any reason that you want to change ytour current grinder. I mean, its a great grinder. I dont really know, but is the K3-T necessarily an upgrade? In my mind its more a sidestep or even a downgrade? Maybe Chris can shed some light?

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    As you seem to be a way from Talk Coffee, Di Bartoli may be the people youre after. While they dont.......as far as I know, offer in-home grinder trials, they do have a wide variety on the bench including all the home grinders (K3T, M4, M4D, Mini)

    ECM Best in the stepped version is frustrating because of the steps. Perhaps adjustability is key?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1219642467/0#6 date=1219648161
    Just a side; is there any reason that you want to change your current grinder. I mean, its a great grinder. I dont really know, but is the K3-T necessarily an upgrade? In my mind its more a sidestep or even a downgrade?
    Ive been doing a bit more thinking in relation to this today and I think Ive nailed down my reason for wanting a change - the doser.
    I use the grinder for both espresso and plunger, about 50% each. Its a PITA to use for the plunger because Ive got to transfer the grounds into a shallow tray, then into a storage container to take to work, or into the plunger for home use. I found my old Rocky much more user friendly for that purpose.
    Im also finding it a bit of a chore to clean out the doser after every coffee, although it does break up the clumps well though. Ive very rarely had to make more than two coffees in a row, so I think the doser may just be a waste of time for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Identity link=1219642467/0#7 date=1219668707
    ECM Best in the stepped version is frustrating because of the steps. Perhaps adjustability is key?
    I havent found the steps to be a problem as the distance between them is very small, and my (un-educated) palate cant detect anything un-toward.

    Having said all that, maybe the ECA KS doserless would be better option??? Do any snobs have any experience with this particular grinder?
    Thanks again for your replies and suggestions.

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    Re: Demo Grinders

    I know what youre saying, [s]Lovey[/s] Steve (I think Ill call you Steve ::)). There are occasions when a doser on a domestic grinder is handy (when youre entertaining and for breaking up clumps) and times when its not (when its just you or you want to grind for plunger,etc).

    On that, when is a domestic grinder manufacturer going to build a grinder that can be used as either doser or doserless? I wouldnt have thought it would be that hard - a detachable doser. (Although I might be missing some reason it cant be done, otherwise someone would have done it by now, wouldnt they?)

    I for one would be interested in such a beast (all other aspects of it being ok). Would take the dilemma out of choosing one or the other. And your problem wouldnt have arisen.

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    Ey Steve,

    Ive got a KS in the office @ Balmain if you want to try it. Its a doserless Best and thats about it for difference... I was going to sell and upgrade when time/funds allow as Im a stepless-a-holic. but might be interested in a swap? It might be that after a while you develop upgraditis about it anyhow, like I have - nip it in the bud now and get a KX, Kony, Robur or K10 WBC.

    PM me if youd like to talk further!

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    I have a stepless grinder (ascaso i-1/), and I know there is pretty much no way I could use it for espresso and for plunger. As you turn the grind setting, you have no reference point as to where your espresso setting is vs your grinder setting; plus you would be winding that little nob for quite a while on some grinders.

    If you want stepless, you would probably want a second grinder IMHO.

    $0.02

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    Re: Demo Grinders

    Quote Originally Posted by ona rampage link=1219642467/0#11 date=1220325958
    If you want stepless, you would probably want a second grinder IMHO.
    Or maybe just one Mazzer(stepless), or a stepped M4D(extremely small steps), etc... 8-) ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Identity link=1219642467/0#10 date=1220191639
    Hey Steve,
    Ive got a KS in the office @ Balmain if you want to try it. Its a doserless Best and thats about it for difference... I was going to sell and upgrade when time/funds allow as Im a stepless-a-holic. but might be interested in a swap? It might be that after a while you develop upgraditis about it anyhow, like I have - nip it in the bud now and get a KX, Kony, Robur or K10 WBC.
    PM me if youd like to talk further!

    John
    Thanks for the kind offer John, unfortunately its a few days too late for me (I havent had a chance to get onto the computer for a while. I ended up biting the bullet and buying a KS from Renzo. I havent had a chance to use it yet, but Ill put up a bit of a comparo between the Best and the KS when time allows.

    Quote Originally Posted by ona rampage link=1219642467/0#11 date=1220325958
    I have a stepless grinder (ascaso i-1/), and I know there is pretty much no way I could use it for espresso and for plunger. As you turn the grind setting, you have no reference point as to where your espresso setting is vs your grinder setting; plus you would be winding that little nob for quite a while on some grinders.

    If you want stepless, you would probably want a second grinder IMHO.

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    I was trying to avoid that scenario, I didnt want to push Mrs Lovey too hard by suggesting another grinder on the bench ;D
    The steps on the Best were small enough, so it shouldnt be a problem.

    Many thanks go to Renzo for his advice and patience with me, and to Ofra for answering my many enquiries prior to purchase.
    Thanks again to my fellow snobs for their input and advice.



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