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    Hi,

    Im wanting to buy a mazzer super jolly, and wondering if I should be going for a timer or auto?

    I gather with an auto, I would have to pull out the auto mechanism flap in the doser to get access to the chute, and also wire out the auto fill.

    I dont know how the buttons work for each type, but i dont want to really modify it, so is a timer model the way to go? How does the timer model switch work? Is this exactly what I need for home use?

    Thanks, Damian.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    Timer model you basically crank the timer on and then crank it off when you want to stop, or let it run out as it ticks down.

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    So the timer switch doesnt mind being switched off manually the whole time rather than waiting til it turns itself off?

    What type do you have yeeza? How do you find it?

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    nah, you can crank it off for sure. Doesnt hurt it.. I thought the same thing too initially ;)

    Ive got the timed one, and its no issues at all. The autofill one seems like a pain. I think there are more timed ones out there generally.

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    Ok, so timed isnt an issue, but it still sounds a bit weird to use a timer that I will never actually use as a timer. If I get a auto one, and disconnect the auto fill, will the switch then work just as an on/off switch? Is this a better outcome, but more hassle?

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    ha, yeah I dunno. I guess Im just used to mine now. I use it more as an ON/OFF than a timer.

    Maybe someone with the auto fill might wanna make a comment.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    My timer is broken. It has a "set" time and you cant change it. So I just have to hold it on while grinding (lest it stop halfway) and then manually pull it off.

    Mind you its a very old machine that looks well abused.

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    From memory (FWIW) if you crank the timer all the way itll run for 60secs. I dont think I ever crank it that far though... more like half way, and then crank off.... maybe let it just run out if I know its nearing the end of the grind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damian1 link=1226968854/0#4 date=1226971444
    Ok, so timed isnt an issue, but it still sounds a bit weird to use a timer that I will never actually use as a timer. *If I get a auto one, and disconnect the auto fill, will the switch then work just as an on/off switch? *Is this a better outcome, but more hassle?
    I think mine is the auto-fill one. I broke the auto-fill but. I kept bending the stupid flap out of the way to brush out the chute and it eventually snapped off. The toggle thingy is 0 - 1 - 2. You put it on 1 if you use the flap of stupidity. So if you wanna do it manually, you just push it to 2 to grind, and back to 0 for off.

    If that makes any sense whatsoever ;)

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    Auto fill is the way to go. Switch it on it grinds, switch it off when you have enough, about three doser sections per double and it stops. If you ever end up helping out at a function (we help out making coffee with the Boema and Super Jolly at daughters school fair) then let the auto fill do its thing. Good machine for home use, with a mix of high volume thrown in a few times a year.

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    Thanks Michelle, Neil.

    So if you have the auto version, if the doser is empty I take it there is no difference between 1 and 2 if you are just going to turn if off after a little?

    Damian.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    And another question for anyone who has disabled the auto-fill - do you then just switch between 0 and 1 when using, or is 1 disabled, and you have to switch from 0 to 2?

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    I switch between 0 and 2. Its not a problem.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle link=1226968854/0#12 date=1226977299
    I switch between 0 and 2. Its not a problem.
    haha, Im guessing its about as much a problem as turning it on a timer and then turning it off when youre done grinding.

    So when it comes down to it, it doesnt really make a difference. :-? Either way youre turning it on and then turning it off, unless you have a timer and itll turn off by itself. ;D

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    My Gino Rossi has the auto-fill flap.
    The power switch is On/Off.

    If the doser is empty and you leave the switch on, it keeps grinding until the auto-fill flap switch turns it off.

    If you only want to grind as you go you simply switch on and off as you would with a grinder without the auto-fill.

    I dont see the need for 2 On positions.
    Someone please explain.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    I have the auto-fill version, but have removed the cut-out switch and flap to allow access to the shute for cleaning.

    It is an easy job to remove the cut-out switch, but you do then need to bridge the contacts to the switch in the base of the unit ... if you bridge correctly, the 3-position switch will function as follows:
    position 0 = off
    position 1 = on / run
    position 2 = momentary "start" switch......ie turn switch from position 0 to 1 (nothing happens), then turn switch to 2 , motor will start and switch returns to position 1 and motor runs....when you are done grinding, turn switch to position 0 (off)
    Other models may vary ...
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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1226968854/0#14 date=1226982830
    I dont see the need for 2 On positions.
    Someone please explain.
    On Mazzer auto-fills, the grinder only starts if there is no / not enough coffee in the doser AND the doser leaver has been pulled 12 (?) times. The 2nd switch possition is a momentary possition, ie the switch springs back to possition 1. This is used when you want the grinder to start but dont want to have to pull the doser leaver repeatedly to get it started.

    Slightly more complicated than other systems, though I guess if you were using as intended it would mean the ground coffee is a fraction fresher than if the grinder started as soon as the flap lowered due to the fact that the doser would be near empty by the time the grinder starts again.

    Cheers,

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    I grind on demand with my SJ with the auto fill feature still all in place...no problems and always manage to get very close to what I need and if short a very quick touch gets me the last little bit.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    The auto is nice if a huge number of people show up for a party and are big coffee drinkers or you are grinding for a bag to give to someone without a decent grinder.

    Cheers

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    Thanks all for your help. I think I understand how each work now. It sounds like either will be fine. I am favouring an auto at this stage. I will try it as is, and if the auto annoys me I will do the mods if I am sure I wont stuff anything up!

    Damian.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    Auto has been ordered, and most importantly it is black!

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    I now have my new black super jolly - thanks Chris (talk coffee). I was getting reaady to have a play, but was then told it had to stay in the box til christmas!!! I at least got to open the box and check it was actually a grinder in there. I saw it has a counter on it which is cool - my mum can check up on me, and confirm I am drinking too much coffee. Im also glad I went for the small hopper, because the original one looks massive when you get it home.

    damian.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    How accurate is (or can be) the timer on the mazzers?

    IE does a 20 sec grind = a 14g double or is it more hit and miss?

    Cheers

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    The full crank on the timer is 30 seconds from memory.... or was it 60 seconds... no 30 sounds right....hmm Ill check later

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    Hi Senator - havent ever tried, but I gather the timer is more for filling the doser than accurately measuring single shot.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    Thats what I was trying to get to -

    I have never used a doser grinder before, so have no idea how they work, but assume that each segment of the doser chamber contains a certain amount of coffee which is filled up (have seen variable from 5 - 9g per dose), but how does it control how many beans get ground into the PF if each thwack of the thwacker opens up one of the segments?

    I read constantly about getting the dose right (by weight or volume depends I guess), and yet when watching google vids, people seem to thwack merrily away on their grinders, so how is the dose controlled?

    Even in the "general coffee" thread, there is one on the Irish Barista Champ, who has no distribution technique, but merrily thwacks away on the grinder. I was told it was a "timed" dose rather than by volume, so I am just confused.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    Stephen Morrissey has, presumably, a timer on the grinder. That means hes grinding the correct amount of coffee into the doser and then thwacking it out into the pf.

    The segments in the dosing star are next to useless for people who care IMO(in regards to dose). Anyway, those segments are only filled up really when the doser is kinda fullish, which is rare if youre grinding on demand at home.

    People often thwack, thwack, thwack away to break up any clumps.

    Dose is controlled, (or limited - not necessarily in control) but the one doin the thwacking - the barista and their particular dosing technique - usually.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    first coffee from the super jolly this morning. Why didnt someone convince me to buy this a long time ago. Amazing! It brings out so much more flavours, and they are so clear and well defined. It has just made my ethiopian gambella sundried go from ok to REALLY good - I think I am going to have to retry all my different coffees now and re-evaluate them.

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    Re: buying a new mazzer super jolly advice

    Quote Originally Posted by damian1 link=1226968854/20#27 date=1230243994
    first coffee from the super jolly this morning. *Why didnt someone convince me to buy this a long time ago. *Amazing! *It brings out so much more flavours, and they are so clear and well defined. *It has just made my ethiopian gambella sundried go from ok to REALLY good - I think I am going to have to retry all my different coffees now and re-evaluate them.

    Good stuff Damian,

    Welcome to the great grinder club. The CS mentra of the best grinder you can possibly afford has been proven again.

    Even moreso than in machines, you really do gets what you pays for in a grinder.

    Enjoy!

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