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    First Roast

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Another first roast story.

    I picked up my Ozito HG the other day - 34 bucks and a 3 year replacement warranty, pretty hard to beat.

    I roasted a cup of Cuban Turquino. I reckon I got to the middle of first crack at 7 minutes and 2nd was well underway when I stopped at 8:45. I didnt use any sort of cooling device, just shifted the beans from one container to another.

    I think I went a bit overboard with the roasting. The beans have a bit of a burned smell to them and the shot tasted like it. Excellent crema though.

    Any experiences or tips with roasting with this bean?


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    Fantastic :)
    Great you posted your first results.

    what Id try next is roast 2 cups and maybe hold the Heat Gun about 2 inches away stiring more or less constantly but occasionally waving the HG over the coffee then stir again.

    When I do it i have first crack at about 11min second at 17.

    Keep practising in time you will get some great results and keep us posted as to your results.

    Cheers
    Rich


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    Re: First Roast

    Hi Goatherder,

    Ive had quite a lot of experience with the Cuban Turquino, which is one of my favourite coffees. I find that this coffee truly shines at the beginning of the (rolling) 2nd crack. At this point, the sweetness, body & richness of this coffee are in perfect balance.

    Lighter than 2nd crack, and this coffee tastes "green". Darker than 2nd crack, and it tastes burnt and generic.

    Cheers,
    Avi

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    Re: First Roast

    Who said Coffee isnt a science based product..............who needs GM foods when you can roast your own coffee.

    Heat to this level fir this taste and this level for that taste..... more and you get charcoal..... Caffien Oils, Caffein addictions. :o............oh man give me some beanssssssssssssss.

    Love the Rolling second crack........ Thank goodness we dont have Rock in it as well.....I had a laugh


    FB

    (FB needs some more coffee, he becoming warped..........woops too late!)

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    Hahhaha, I love your enthusiasm FB. And I hear you! Coffee is truly a gift from the gods, and were but humble yet passionate recipients of this divine nectar from the heavens above.

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    Re: First Roast

    Ok guys, "rolling second crack", whats that in laymen terms?

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    First crack is often a sporadic sort of thing. Beans cracking occassionally over a period over several minutes. Builds up and then passes. The sound might be likened to snapping a pencil. The sound of second crack is more like rustling cellophane. Second starts with a few cracks and then builds (i.e. "rolls"). As soon as you hear it you will know what it is. This is the time to be dumping your beans into the cooler before they are an oily charcoaled mess that gunk up everything they come in contact with. The transition to rolling second is also the time when your beans lose some of their individual characters and take on a character from the roasting process. How far you roast is personal preference. Some like coffee that is dark and oily and others prefer it lighter in colour with perhaps a trace of oil on the surface.

    What are you roasting with?

    Cheers,

    Graeme

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    Re: First Roast

    Im not.....as yet. Ive got a sample pack from Rae and Rich, dusted off the old Black & Decker heat gun, and am anxiously awaiting my first try this weekend. Friday night to be more precise, so we can have fresh roasted coffee Saturday morning. Ahhhh, what could be better. I just hope my efforts with the heat gun turn out as good as everyone else.
    I think I have read just about every post on heat gun roasting, any last minute tips?

    Thanks,

    Nick.

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    Re: First Roast

    Just thought of a question. My sample pack contains, Kenya AA, Ethiopian (Sumatran) Mandheling, Mysore Nuggets, Brazillian Alto Carmelo (Cerrado), and Java Estate. Any advise on what is best to start with, i.e. what blend, roast together or seperate, how much to roast.

    Thanks,

    Nick.

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    Hi Nick,

    Try this as a first go:
    Brazil Cerrado 59% [Roast - 2nd Crack]
    Sumatran Mandheling 25% [Roast - 2nd Crack + 25 seconds]
    Ethiopean Harrar 16% [Roast - 2nd Crack + 10 seconds]

    If you cant bothered roasting them separately, pre-blend them, wait 24 hrs and then roast it all to about 2nd Crack + 10 seconds.

    Avi

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    Behmor Coffee Roaster
    Thanks for the advice. I did my first roast on Friday. Ive never had so much fun with a heat gun.....beats paint stripping. I did 3 seperate roasts. 40% Sumatran Mandheling, 20% Kenya AA and 40% Brazil Cerrado. I got a bit shy with the heat gun because I didnt want to cremate my first attempt, so I reckon I ended up with a medium roast, somewhere between 1st and 2nd crack. I wasnt sure what to expect when I reached the 1st crack, but was very surprised with how loadly they went off. Id liken it to a crackling log fire. The cracking then seemed to increase in frequency, but decrease in verocity. So Im not sure whether I reached 2nd crack or not. I think Ill take the advice I read on another posting somewhere on this site, and do a sacrificial roast until charred. Then Ill know what to expect of the 2nd crack. The heat gun I have is on its last legs, and moans and groans a fair bit, so Im not sure if Ill even hear anything.

    Heres looking forward to the next roast,

    Nick.

    Heres me getting carried away with the roasting, I forgot to mention what it tasted like. Well to my uneducated palate it was great. Far better than anything Ive gotten off the supermarket shelves. I like a full flavour dark raost, this was not quite up there, which is another reason to suspect I needed a bit longer on the heat gun. But the potential is definately there.



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