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    My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

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    Hi all,
    I have just completed my 1st roast with my new Hottop B. I selected the Automatic roast, watched & listened with great anticipation. Then, all of a sudden, the machine started beeping with 3 minutes to go & the beans were ejected???????? I didnt hear any first crack, all i saw was a bit of steam & the beans change to a caramel/dark brown?
    What did i do wrong? Beans are Yirg? type, they came with my hottop.
    Ive included a photo of my end result.



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    Re: My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

    The hottops have a safety mechanism whereby you have to hit enter once it reaches 190C or else it will automatically eject the beans. It usually starts beeping for 30 seconds after it reaches 190C before ejecting the beans, but if you dont hit enter in that time, it will just eject them and they will be significantly under-roasted.

    Is this what happened?

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    Re: My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

    Quote Originally Posted by 717A687D767A6C71707D1F0 link=1231743942/0#0 date=1231743942
    Then, all of a sudden, the machine started beeping with 3 minutes to go & the beans were ejected???????? I didnt hear any first crack, all i saw was a bit of steam & the beans change to a caramel/dark brown?
    What did i do wrong? Beans are Yirg? type, they came with my hottop.

    Yep....

    First thing you did wrong...... is NOT READ THE MANUAL!!!

    There is a reason a manual is provided..... and an extra sheet which is included...... and if purchased from ThingsCoffee.... a "Tips" sheet telling you to read the manual before using!

    Both the manual and the extra sheet give details about the safety features built into the HT.... If it reaches certain setpoints (temperatures) too quickly.... it beeps at you! If you dont acknowledge that you are happy with what it is doing..... it figures you have wandered away.... dont know what to do.... so the safety kicks in and ejects the beans - just like it is supposed to!!!

    So before your next roast - RTFM!!!!

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    Re: My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

    ok, i think so, so do i throw out the beans then?

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    Re: My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

    Quote Originally Posted by 717A687D767A6C71707D1F0 link=1231743942/3#3 date=1231744860
    ok, i think so, so do i throw out the beans then?
    Pretty much.... you can try and re roast them.... but that close to FC I have found its really not worth it.... the resultant flavour isnt good :-X

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    Re: My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

    I made that mistake once not long after I got my HT - I was inside downstairs making a coffee while it was roasting and didnt get back to hit the enter key in time! So, I had a partly roasted batch.

    I did re-roast it in an automatic cycle and just listened for first and second crack again.

    The resultant beans, while not amazing, were still quite drinkable and there was limited waste and only minor embarrassment.

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    Re: My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

    Ouch! Yep, did read the manual! Obviously, did read that bit, did not register :-[ Will redo the roast!

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    Re: My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

    A clarification; the Hottop P will always give a warning beep at 190C as jamver mentioned, however the Hottop B you have newbiesnob gives a warning beep at 180C ONLY IF that temperature is reached within the first 8.5 minutes, otherwise theres no warning beep. After that their warnings are the same - 210C with the option to continue, and auto-dump at 220C. If you check your manual therell be a separate page with a yellow box on the bottom half of the page entitled Factory Programmed Safety which tells you all you need to know.

    Ive probably only had that warning beep on my Hottop B two or three times; Im normally at 180 by about 9:00 - 9:30 into the roast so you may want to slow things down a bit unless youre going for a bright result.

    Greg

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    Re: My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

    Quote Originally Posted by 474C5E4B404C5A47464B290 link=1231743942/6#6 date=1231745827
    Ouch! Yep, did read the manual! Obviously, did read that bit, did not register *:-[ Will redo the roast!
    I go through all the bleedin trouble and spend all that time photographing and writing and doing all that layout, countless hours in my tiny studio under hot lights, days and days hunched over the keyboard, risking a deadly case of carpal tunnel, the lines in my face from squinting at the screen, the cuts from sharp edges and the burns from hot parts, the intimate hours spent in the arms of Ms. Photoshop, and Hottop spends inestimable, extraordinarily huge sums to pay for my services to do so in order that I can maintain the lifestyle to which I have become accustomed, and you skim over the important parts!? Oh, the cheek of it. :D

    Seriously, there is a TON of information in the manual and it can be a lot to digest. it was one of the reasons that they wanted to include the quickstart page. When i wrote it I assumed that a vast majority of the people purchasing that appliance were very serious about roasting coffee, and after spending that much would want to get as much detailed info as possible. the manual is designed not to just be a way to get started roasting coffee but to be a guide that will be valuable for a long time to come.

    Also be aware that the Hottop USA website has a large section that shows, step by step, how to replace just about any part you would need to. I just today posted a new page on replacing the ejection door, spring, and solenoid... You probably will not need any of that for quite some time, but it is nice to know it is there for future reference.

    On an only-slightly related note, I just "overhauled one of my KN-8828Bs this past weekend. I took most all of it apart, put virtually all the metal bits and soaked then in a cleaner, cleaned everything i could, and even replaced the heating element just because. I also replaced the bearing plate because it was squealing a bit. Even after 2+ years of regular use, and being disassembled for at least the 4th time (at least twice for photography and twice for thorough cleaning) the thing looks and works like new again.

    Yes, I work work for (but am not employed by) Hottop USA, but I do so because I use and believe in their product.


    ...and now we return you to our regularly scheduled program.....

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    Re: My 1st Hottop Roast With Yirg? Beans

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    Thanks Greg & Randy G, Im about to roast another batch of yirg beans. I ended up reroasting the 1/2 roasted beans to actually hear the 1st crack & 2nd crack. Now im familiar with the noises associated with them, its a confidence thing :-?. Im also using the automatic cycle as recommended by the manual.



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