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    Brazil Alterosa RFA

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Moving to this forum topic as the discussion was getting a bit OT in Wishing Well:
    Quote Originally Posted by 5B7C66777E7E7B767762667A120 link=1242252976/0#0 date=1242252976
    Easy to roast, love it as an SO for milk-based drinks and want to order more. Great body, its my favourite morning SO thus far.
    Quote Originally Posted by 747E6B7C7C736761120 link=1242252976/1#1 date=1242253446
    Assuming you roasted your own, to what depth did you roast it? *
    Quote Originally Posted by 5B7C66777E7E7B767762667A120 link=1242252976/2#2 date=1242255141
    CS10. I have a note in my roasting book "re-order in bulk"! I take it into rolling second with visible smoke.

    After roasting, the beans have a 2-tone look, a relatively even roast, smooth lovely looking beans. A 400g batch roasted to CS10 has an exit weight of 340g. (A CS9 level has exit weight of 360g.) Roasted in a Coretto.

    I use it from Day 3 post-roast. *
    Quote Originally Posted by 747E6B7C7C736761120 link=1242252976/3#3 date=1242255781
    The roast i did (my first) was only about CS9 so Ill definitely go darker next roast. My hearing isnt good enough to hear FC very well, let alone SC. I might have to engage my wife as a listener so I can time when SC kicks in. *
    Quote Originally Posted by 5B7C66777E7E7B767762667A120 link=1242252976/4#4 date=1242257138
    Ive had a couple of very varied day temps - 16.5*C still morning first roast, and a 23*C breezy day third roast, which varied the timing by three minutes, however reaching CS10 was the best indicator on both days, and didnt cause a large enough difference in espresso flavour for me to tell the difference.

    Can you see inside your popper? (Sorry, I never tried poppers so I dont know!) *
    Yes, colour is the only way I could judge the roasts Ive done so far as I couldnt hear cracks but they came out a light. You can see the first result on this thread Second raost was slightly darker.

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

    >> Brazil [s]Alterra[/s] Alterosa RFA

    Damn - got the subject wrong. Could a mod please amend the thread subject to avoid any confusion please?

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    Yes, the photo looks like my first CS9 roast. I read youve done a CS10 as well, should taste great. Even when I tried it at CS9 I had a gut feel itd be good at CS10 and worth getting more of. Sure enough...

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

    Quote Originally Posted by 32382D3A3A352127540 link=1242258017/1#1 date=1242259493
    Could a mod please amend the thread subject to avoid any confusion please?
    Thanks Mods

    I tried it this morning - excellent but still a little young. This is the second darker roasted batch I did on the 10th. I will roast the next batch a tad darker again I think - a proper CS10 rather than 9.something.

    Ill wait 7 days before trying the first batch. I guess Ill find out for myself but, generally, would a lightly roasted bean benefit from a longer rest compared to a darker roasted of the same bean?

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6E64716666697D7B080 link=1242258017/3#3 date=1242342145
    I guess Ill find out for myself but, generally, would a lightly roasted bean benefit from a longer rest compared to a darker roasted of the same bean?
    Thats been my experience, a little longer if a little lighter. But my experience is limited.

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

    Quote Originally Posted by 637D7F7B75697475737B100 link=1242258017/4#4 date=1242345013
    a little longer if a little lighter
    Thanks Kit

    Thats good news. Ill try for myself but Ive already given it a label: The SD protocol :)

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA - what difference a week makes

    I did my second roast today: 3 x 100g batches. This time I could hear FC and SC and I found how badly I misjudged time on the first roast I did on May 10

    First roast (Pictured right below) CS10:
    FC: 3mins SC: 7mins. When I turned off the popper it was well into rolling SC

    Second Roast: CS10
    FC 3min 30 SC 7min pulled at rolling SC

    Third roast: CS10
    FC: 3mins I then turned the fan on to it: SC came after 8 mins and once again it was well into rolling SC when I dumped the roast

    In the picture on the left, last weeks roast on the left, 3rd batch of todays roast on the right. It appears that last weeks was more CS8 rather than CS9 and the coffee I made today from last weeks roast was rather grassy.



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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

    Quote Originally Posted by 4B415443434C585E2D0 link=1242258017/6#6 date=1242437576
    It appears that last weeks was more CS8 rather than CS9 and the coffee I made today from last weeks roast was rather grassy.
    No risk of that with this weeks batches flynn_aus... ;) :P

    From the photos, these batches should be right on the money though. Consider to start tasting them from tomorrow onwards, to get a feel for when the flavour peaks for you. I think youll be surprised at how quickly the beans will develop at this roast level. Mmmm... 8-)

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

    Quote Originally Posted by 6C41454944280 link=1242258017/7#7 date=1242456095
    No risk of that with this weeks batches flynn_aus... Wink Tongue
    Hehe...maybe burnt grass Mal?

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

    Quote Originally Posted by 4E6F646463790A0 link=1242258017/8#8 date=1242456288
    Hehe...maybe burnt grass Mal?
    Wellll... ::)

    Probably a little darker than Id go with these particular beans Den but its all part of the fun and should still be able to produce a fairly decent brew....

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

    Quote Originally Posted by 624F4B474A260 link=1242258017/9#9 date=1242456464
    Probably a little darker than Id go with these particular beans
    Intellidepth said she was taking it into rolling SC and she was happy with the outcome. Different strokesn all and I like a darker roast generally. If it doesnt quite do it, then next time I will take it to just onor before second crack, say 7 mins .


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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

    Hey there flynn_aus... :)

    I wasnt criticising, just making an observation for where my roasting preferences lie.... Like you I guess.

    Brazilian coffees and some Bolivians too are just a bit too subtle in their flavours for my coarse palate I guess. Thats why I tend to roast these a little slower up to First Crack(FC) and then stop before reaching Second Crack(SC) at around CS9 or so. This seems to allow more of the intrinsic flavours to be retained and make for a more interesting brew (for me).

    Home roasting is great. We all get to drink coffee from personalised, custom roasts of excellent quality beans from Andy 8-).... Pretty hard to beat,

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA


    Steve, for what its worth, when I saw the pics my immediate reaction was to suggest that once youve tried each roast, try blending a little of the darker roast with the lighter ones.

    And I agree with Mal - keep at it and enjoy!


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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

    Quote Originally Posted by 74595D515C300 link=1242258017/11#11 date=1242467315
    I wasnt criticising
    I knew that Mal [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

    I was hunting through my current collection of greens last week to decide which bean to start off with and I thought the Brazilian is one Im happy to sacrifice and it might be still palatable even if I get it wrong. I agree with your comments - I like a more intense flavoured bean.

    I think popper roasting could be the ideal way to start out roasting as it is cheap and allows a small batch size so you dont waste much if you get it wrong. Ill get the corretto set up as soon as I get the BM modded, and then try the profiling as you suggest.

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    Re: Brazil Alterosa RFA

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5046434352505C55555656330 link=1242258017/12#12 date=1242469150
    try blending a little of the darker roast with the lighter ones.
    Actually, I did think of that Den. The roast from last week is probably a little under-roasted [s]for my liking[/s] - nope, just too light. Ill give it a try.
    Todays roast isnt as dark as it looks in the photo on the left and a little darker than the one on the right. Definitely no burnt ones.



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