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    I have just bought 2 kg of mexican decaf from Di Bella in Brisbane and was wondering if anyone has experimented with it to get a roasting profile. I have done a couple of roasts on the corretto with it and it always seems to end up going too dark and looks completely oily/greasy.

    If I pull it before 2nd crack, would that make it less drinkable? It is okay as it is now, but certainly does not have the punch that caffeinated coffee does. Is it possible to get a decaf that does?

    can you blend it with other beans for a half caffeine hit? If so, any suggestions?

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    Re: decaf roasting profile

    This is something a bunch of us were talking about last night at Nirvana Coffee.
    Mark found best results with the Mexican decafe when he roasted it a lot light than he would with the swiss water decafes. And i agree. Once you go to that oily stage in a decafes life it greatly reduces its shelf life, id say by half that of normal coffee.

    I tried some of his mexican last night with a color of about CS 8 and it was quite enjoyable.

    If you want to blend it with something else for a halfcafe of sorts try something that will compliment it.

    I would strongly suggest find who stocks the Brazilian Daterra Opus 1 Exotic in Australia as it is a natural 1% caffeine veriety of coffee.

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    Re: decaf roasting profile

    Quote Originally Posted by 033A242A10084F0 link=1262638063/1#1 date=1262659021
    I would strongly suggest find who stocks the Brazilian Daterra Opus 1 Exotic in Australia as it is a natural 1% caffeine veriety of coffee.
    thanks for that, I didnt even think to do that. Am on it....

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    Re: decaf roasting profile

    Hey M23,
    That Di Bella Mexican Decaf is one of my favorites, i roast it to CS11 and i find it lasts about 4 days max, the profile i use is first crack at around 12 mins to first few snaps of second crack at around 17mins, i find it hard to extend it further as it tends to get away a bit, from memory it roasts around 10C cooler than normal temps(decaf) its full of flavour without the Caffeine, i find it brilliant if i run out of coffee or im hit with a suprise party, i can roast it and be grinding and brewing it 30 mins later, and its amazing!

    I love it, i always have a few kilos hanging around!

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    Thanks WSully, will aim for a slower roast, I got a bit excited and the whole roast last time only took about 12 minutes. I really like how you can roast it and drink it straight away. i am sure too that most people I know wouldnt even know it was a decaf if I didnt tell them. ;)

    I think I have sourced some Brazilian Daterra Opus, am very excited about trying that out too.

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    Re: decaf roasting profile

    Share the wealth!

    Where are you able to get it from?

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    I served up 30 odd cups of Mexico decaf at work a couple of months ago, everyone loved it till I let em know it was decaf, then the, ohhhhh so tired! Need caffeine! And I roasted that lot that morning! Very handy bean to have! Try andys decaf WOW to, avail in greenbay

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    Re: decaf roasting profile

    Ha ha, well I spoke to a fellow in WA who runs rubra coffee and they only sell it roasted. He said he would sell me Green beans at the same price as roasted beans ($60/kg) but I really dont think that is worth it for me. It would be a pretty expensive venture if I mucked up the roast.

    Supplies are short apparently but will hopefully improve soon. There are suppliers in Sydney also, but I cannot remember the name of who he suggested.

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    Re: decaf roasting profile

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    We can get it (we were the ones that told the Sydney suppliers about it, they didnt know what it was when we were trying to land some!)

    The last time I tried a sample it wasnt very good and it was about $25+/kg green (which is why you are seeing it for $60/roasted)

    My suggestion is to stick to a good water processed one and experiment to get the roast profile that suits.


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    Re: decaf roasting profile

    Thanks for that info Andy :)

    I had wondered what the price would be like in this early stage of its existence. Toby says he will be supplying it when the price comes down which i presume would be next crop or the crop after.

    Still.... $25 a kilo green is a small price to pay for a non decafe processed decafe for people who are that way inclined is it not?

    P.S. Mark B says hi Andy :)

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    Thanks for that info Andy. Id pay $25 a kilo to try it though. I like the idea of unprocessed decaf. Ill be honing my skills with the swiss water decaf first though and will definately be ordering some decaf WOW on my next order.

    This morning I forgot that I had put some malawi beans I had roasted about a week ago in the grinder for my husband and made myself a coffee. Thought I had made myself a decaf and was buzzing around the house for a good hour...... Got heaps done though and the headache has mysteriously disappeared...... :D

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    Re: decaf roasting profile

    Thanks for all the input everyone. I roasted another batch yesterday and took it longer and lighter and it turned out great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 435B431C5A465C4B4B2E0 link=1262638063/11#11 date=1262903127
    Thanks *for all the input everyone. *I roasted another batch yesterday and took it longer and lighter and it turned out great.
    Not sure how far Nth of Brisbane... But if you have not been; it worth a trip to Pioneer Coffee Roastery at Yandina and make ya self known to the Guys and Gals...

    You might even be able to get Tim Adams to show you a few tricks as to methods to get the best from ya beans..

    AM



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