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    FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

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    The time was 10:45pm. It was a cold night, with a temperature of around 11 degrees. Quiet night indeed, it was.

    225g of Peru Ceja de Silva Estate was being roasted in my Behmor on 1/2, P3, C profile (14 minutes).

    First crack began at 2:46 (descending). There was no lapse between first and second crack. It was at 40 seconds when I noticed that second crack was already happening. VIOLENTLY.

    Within a few moments, fire erupted within the Behmor. Thick smoke was gushing out of the afterburner and through the sides of the door.

    It was all a blur.

    The fire alarm went frenzy for at least 15 minutes.

    My instinct led me to pull off the plug. I opened the Behmor door and took my stand fan and blew towards it. Within moments, visibility at home was poor. I can hardly see the TV from the living room couch.

    A couple of fans were blowing the smoke away from the fire alarm, but the alarm was going on and on.

    In a frantic rush, I carried the Behmor and put it on the balcony for about 20 minutes, while allowing the smoke to escape from the house.

    When I thought the beans (now turned carbon) have stopped blazing, I tried to take out the cylinder with my oven mits. All of a sudden... FLAMES. I tried blowing the flame away, but it just wouldnt go. So I used my BBQ thongs to pulled the cylinder out, and drench it with water.

    My cylinder is now almost all black. Behmor glass door is also filled with black grease. Top the chaff tray is all covered in black grease too. Presumably from the coffee oil.

    By then, the smoke has started subsiding. The smell is still overly empowering.

    I guess I will try to go to bed now; but what should I do tomorrow to ensure my Behmor is still functioning? And how should I clean the black grease out?

    And no... I have not given up roasting.

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    This is interesting. Glad nothing else was burnt down!

    A damp cloth should do the job to clean all the black soot inside the oven. If that doesnt work, just use some chemicals that is mentioned in the manual (a non abasive one).

    The drum shouldnt be too much of a problem. A bit of detergent and a scrourer should do the job.

    Im sure the Behmor is fine. Just make sure nothings melted or looks out of place. Test all the buttons as stated in the manual and start a dry burn (ie 1/4 --> start).

    I think the only reason why it caught alight is because you introduced oxygen by opening the door. This gives any glowing embers what it needs to flame up.

    Next time, keep in mind you have the cool button incase it gets too far past second crack.

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    If theres a fire in your Behmor treat it the same as you would an oven fire. Turn the oven off, in the case of the Behmor unplug it, and DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR!!!

    As specialpants pointed out opening the door introduces fresh oxygen into the chamber and will cause the fire to flare up! The Behmor will sense a fire and shutdown. If you see the fire before it gets hot enough to shutdown you always have the option of unplugging the Behmor to turn it off and stop the introduction of fresh air into it.

    Attached is a pic of the instructions in the Behmor manual dealing with this exact situation.


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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    Quote Originally Posted by 4D667166776F6E6B62070 link=1306329829/2#2 date=1306349639
    If theres a fire in your Behmor treat it the same as you would an oven fire. Turn the oven off, in the case of the Behmor unplug it, and DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR!!!

    As specialpants pointed out opening the door introduces fresh oxygen into the chamber and will cause the fire to flare up! The Behmor will sense a fire and shutdown. If you see the fire before it gets hot enough to shutdown you always have the option of unplugging the Behmor to turn it off and stop the introduction of fresh air into it.

    Attached is a pic of the instructions in the Behmor manual dealing with this exact situation.


    Java "DONT OPEN THE DOOR!!!" phile

    Thanks, Javaphile. That was a good lesson. It was just natural instinct to open the door and quickly blow my fan towards it. While the flame didnt flare up at that time, but the amount of thick smoke that covered the whole unit was immense! It was almost hard to breathe at that time.

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    Glad to see that no one was hurt during this episode.
    Re the cleaning, a product which Ive found very useful for the Behmor is a magic eraser sponge (or similar name). Theyre available in most supermarkets and dont require any chemicals, apart from a bit of elbow grease.

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    Glad no one was hurt, but you might want to roast on your balcony from now on.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5C584349310 link=1306329829/0#0 date=1306329829
    First crack began at 2:46 (descending). There was no lapse between first and second crack. It was at 40 seconds when I noticed that second crack was already happening. VIOLENTLY.
    I dont have a Behmor so Im not sure what 2.46 desending means. How long was it from starting the roast to the fire? It cant have gone up in flames after 3 mins surely.

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    The Behmor runs on a countdown timer, so it was nearly 13 mins after the start (14mins).

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    Quote Originally Posted by 1E3D24372B520 link=1306329829/4#4 date=1306363336
    Glad to see that no one was hurt during this episode.
    Re the cleaning, a product which Ive found very useful for the Behmor is a magic eraser sponge (or similar name). Theyre available in most supermarkets and dont require any chemicals, apart from a bit of elbow grease.
    You da man. Thanks, Lovey. Its disheartening to wake up in the morning and you see the roaster inside what used to be a nice shiny stainless steel, is now black on the side of the walls, and the afterburner, not so shiny anymore. And you only have one serving of fresh beans left in the grinder hopper.

    Time to get my hands dirty tonight.

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    Another thing that will help in case of fire is to drop a fire blanket over it, thereby starving the fire of oxygen.

    For cleaning the drum and stainless parts, Id use espresso cleaner in very hot water and rubber gloves.

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    Re: cleaning.... Very hard to go past the recommended cleaning agent "Simple Green". I now use it for all sorts of difficult cleaning jobs and it just melts offending substances away. Plus, it smells like toothpaste so your Behmor will thereafter smell fresh as a daisy ;D. Can be purchased at Bunnings by the way..... ;)

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    Quote Originally Posted by 032E2A262B470 link=1306329829/9#9 date=1306396265
    Re: cleaning.... Very hard to go past the recommended cleaning agent "Simple Green". I now use it for all sorts of difficult cleaning jobs and it just melts offending substances away. Plus, it smells like toothpaste so your Behmor will thereafter smell fresh as a daisy ;D. Can be purchased at Bunnings by the way..... ;)

    Mal.

    I got Simple Green from Bunnings this evening after work, and surprisingly it works quite well. But some of the burns are so bad that I cannot clean it out 100%, but 80% is still okay for me. Im just afraid some of the charred smell will affect future roasting.

    Because Ive put some effort cleaning the chaff tray, the movable grooves at the bottom has jutted up slightly. When I put the cylinder in with the chaff tray, it blocks the cylinder from spinning properly and it will fall off halfway. Hmm.

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

    Quote Originally Posted by 53574C463E0 link=1306329829/10#10 date=1306412957
    some of the burns are so bad that I cannot clean it out 100%, but 80% is still okay for me. Im just afraid some of the charred smell will affect future roasting.
    Do a couple of Dry Burns as per the instructions in the book mate (when youre finished cleaning) and that should put paid to any smells that shouldnt be there.

    Quote Originally Posted by 53574C463E0 link=1306329829/10#10 date=1306412957
    Because Ive put some effort cleaning the chaff tray, the movable grooves at the bottom has jutted up slightly. When I put the cylinder in with the chaff tray, it blocks the cylinder from spinning properly and it will fall off halfway. Hmm.
    Nothing that a bit of physical persuasion cant fix.... ;)

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    Re: FIRE FIRE FIRE in my Behmor 1600

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    I dry burned my Behmor about twice this evening before roasting 1 pound of beans. All good so far! And hopefully in the next couple of days, the beans will smell fabulous!

    Mal - I kicked myself a couple of times after finding out it was not the groove that caused the problem. It was because of the "fence" that helps protects the element moved a little during my cleaning; so the chaff tray didnt fit in nicely.

    Seems like this Behmor is really made to withstand some beating, eh? I just hate cleaning up after the fire. Took me a good 1 hour of scrubbing.

    But anyhow - thanks, everyone for your feedback, assistance and consolation! :)



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